Current Events > 164 Republicans vote against denouncing racism and discrimination against Asians

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-americans-call-out-republicans-who-opposed-anti-racism-measure-n1240870

https://twitter.com/philipwang/status/1308444063239077889

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Overwhelmingly male and pretty much entirely white or white-passing
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Well to be fair, they are doing a good job of representing the interests of their voters.

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Democrats: lets pass a law that says racism is bad

Republicans: nope

Democrats: uh....wut

Can anyone elaborate their reasoning behind this? Like....it confirms that theres actual racism and they cant have that?

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Are they thinking of tax payer money?

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No one in this thread will have read the entire legislation
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It's almost like old ass white people are out of touch with the country they run

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H. Res. 908

In the House of Representatives, U. S.,
September 17, 2020.
Whereas 23 million Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders account for 7 percent of the Nations population in the United States;
Whereas over 2 million Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders are working on the frontlines of this COVID19 pandemic in health care, law enforcement, first responders, transportation, supermarkets, and other service industries;
Whereas the use of anti-Asian terminology and rhetoric related to COVID19, such as the Chinese Virus, Wuhan Virus, and Kung-flu have perpetuated anti-Asian stigma;
Whereas since January 2020, there has been a dramatic increase in reports of hate crimes and incidents against those of Asian descent;
Whereas according to a recent study, there were over 400 cases related to COVID19 anti-Asian discrimination between February 9, 2020, and March 7, 2020;
Whereas the increased use of anti-Asian rhetoric has resulted in Asian Americans being harassed, assaulted, and scapegoated for the COVID19 pandemic;
Whereas in March 2020, anti-Asian violence includes: a woman wearing a mask was kicked and punched at a New York City subway station; two children and two adults were stabbed at a wholesale grocery in Midland, Texas; a couple was assaulted and robbed by a group of attackers in Philadelphia; and a 16-year-old boy was sent to the hospital after being attacked by bullies in Los Angeles, California;
Whereas the increased use of anti-Asian rhetoric has also resulted in Asian-American businesses being targeted for vandalism;
Whereas there are approximately 2 million Asian American-owned businesses that generate over $700 billion in annual revenue and employ nearly 4.5 million workers;
Whereas the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recognize that naming COVID19 by its geographic location or linking it to a specific ethnicity perpetuates stigma;
Whereas in 2015, the WHO issued guidance calling on media outlets, scientists, and national authorities to avoid naming infectious diseases for locations to avoid stigmatizing groups of people;
Whereas, on February 27, 2020, the Secretary of Health and Human Services stated ethnicity is not what causes the novel coronavirus and that it is inappropriate and inaccurate to call COVID19 the Chinese virus;
Whereas, on February 28, 2020, Dr. Mitch Wolfe, the Chief Medical Officer of the CDC said, Stigma is the enemy of public health;
Whereas, on March 10, 2020, Dr. Robert Redfield, the Director of the CDC, testified that use of the term Chinese coronavirus is wrong and inappropriate; and
Whereas the Secretary General of the United Nations called for international solidarity and an end to any ill-founded discrimination of the outbreaks victims: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives
(1) calls on all public officials to condemn and denounce any and all anti-Asian sentiment in any form;
(2) recognizes that the health and safety of all Americans, no matter their background, must be of utmost priority;
(3) condemns all manifestations of expressions of racism, xenophobia, discrimination, anti-Asian sentiment, scapegoating, and ethnic or religious intolerance;
(4) calls on Federal law enforcement officials, working with State and local officials
(A) to expeditiously investigate and document all credible reports of hate crimes and incidents and threats against the Asian-American community in the United States;
(B) to collect data to document the rise of incidences of hate crimes due to COVID19; and
(C) to hold the perpetrators of those crimes, incidents, or threats accountable and bring such perpetrators to justice; and
(5) recommits United States leadership in building more inclusive, diverse, and tolerant societies
(A) to prioritize language access and inclusivity in communication practices; and
(B) to combat misinformation and discrimination that put Asian Americans at risk.

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heres the text of what the resolution does, for those that think it must be some long and arcane read

That the House of Representatives

(1)calls on all public officials to condemn and denounce any and all anti-Asian sentiment in any form;

(2)recognizes that the health and safety of all Americans, no matter their background, must be of utmost priority;

(3)condemns all manifestations of expressions of racism, xenophobia, discrimination, anti-Asian sentiment, scapegoating, and ethnic or religious intolerance;

(4)calls on Federal law enforcement officials, working with State and local officials

(A)to expeditiously investigate and document all credible reports of hate crimes and incidents and threats against the Asian-American community in the United States;

(B)to collect data to document the rise of incidences of hate crimes due to COVID19; and

(C)to hold the perpetrators of those crimes, incidents, or threats accountable and bring such perpetrators to justice; and

(5)recommits United States leadership in building more inclusive, diverse, and tolerant societies

(A)to prioritize language access and inclusivity in communication practices; and

(B)to combat misinformation and discrimination that put Asian Americans at risk.

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CoIbyCovington posted...

I care more about ending racism against Asian Americans under affirmative action and in Hollywood. Also, it was a Democrat who put Asians in camps back in the day.

At this point you're probably lying about being Korean just like you've been lying about being a lawyer
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GoodOlJr posted...

No one in this thread will have read the entire legislation

Most people won't even dig into the arguments for why these people may have voted no.

Ah so they couldn't approve it because they all violate it themselves
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i could hang at the country club with those guys

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TheGoldenEel posted...

heres the text of what the resolution does, for those that think it must be some long and arcane read

And what does all that mean?

CrimsonRage posted...

this why he's not really an asian supremacist. he'd happily be subsurvient to white conservatives. he just wants asians to be treated better than blacks and latinos.

Yep. Remember when he tried to claim that if he had a Mexican client he'd intentionally throw the case
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CoIbyCovington posted...

I care more about ending racism against Asian Americans under affirmative action and in Hollywood. Also, it was a Conservative who put Asians in camps back in the day.

I fixed this for historical accuracy

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YellowMustard69 posted...

And what does all that mean?

We're not your second grade teacher, read it yourself.

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Conflict posted...

Another reminder that YellowMustard69 is fenderbender before you decide to argue with him

Wait really? Thanks for the tip.
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Conflict posted...

Another reminder that YellowMustard69 is fenderbender before you decide to argue with him

Was not aware but it certainly makes sense now

of course I was never going to engage such obvious shitposting lmfao

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The only party that should be blamed is the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).

Everybody else is a VICTIM of the CCP and their intentional screw-up to mess the world up.

The CCP gave them a 24 hr announcement before shutting down borders, this lead to:
~ 5 million people escaped WuHan province before the initial Quarantine in Jan. 23, 2020.

AP News: Where did they go? Millions left city before quarantine:
https://apnews.com/article/c42eabe1b1e1ba9fcb2ce201cd3abb72
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047720/chinese-premier-li-keqiang-head-coronavirus-crisis-team-outbreak
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-01-27/5-million-people-left-Wuhan-before-the-lockdown-where-did-they-go--NACCu9wItW/index.html

Taiwan was raising concerns about COVID-19 in Dec 2019, the WHO (World Health Organization) who is lead by Dr. Tedros and is puppet mastered by the CCP did everything to cover it up, eventually the world paid the price.

The world tried to play nice with the CCP and believe it's BS / SmokeScreen until the evidence kept mounting and everybody saw the pandemic for what it is, by that time it's too late. Your world leaders failed all of us by kow-tow-ing to Beijing and the CCP to try to get clarity. Yet you ignore the Democratic Country next door until it's too late.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-who-and-taiwan-11588978457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52088167
https://www.france24.com/en/20200519-who-hijacked-the-who-and-can-it-impact-the-covid-19-whodunnit
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/taiwan-who-coronavirus-china/
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/

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CoIbyCovington posted...

I care more about ending racism against Asian Americans under affirmative action and in Hollywood. Also, it was a Democrat who put Asians in camps back in the day.

Damn. I think I got whiplash from how quickly you shifted subjects.

Anyway, having read all that, I could see some that would not want to vote for it because anti-Asian sentiment is too broad and could be interpreted as speaking out against China in general, but Im sure most just want to allow Trump to continue hand waving his role in the pandemics proliferation.

Qwhite interesting...

KamenRiderBlade posted...

The only party that should be blamed is the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).

Everybody else is a VICTIM of the CCP and their intentional screw-up to mess the world up.

The CCP gave them a 24 hr announcement before shutting down borders, this lead to:
~ 5 million people escaped WuHan province before the initial Quarantine in Jan. 23, 2020.

AP News: Where did they go? Millions left city before quarantine:
https://apnews.com/article/c42eabe1b1e1ba9fcb2ce201cd3abb72
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047720/chinese-premier-li-keqiang-head-coronavirus-crisis-team-outbreak
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-01-27/5-million-people-left-Wuhan-before-the-lockdown-where-did-they-go--NACCu9wItW/index.html

Taiwan was raising concerns about COVID-19 in Dec 2019, the WHO (World Health Organization) who is lead by Dr. Tedros and is puppet mastered by the CCP did everything to cover it up, eventually the world paid the price.

The world tried to play nice with the CCP and believe it's BS / SmokeScreen until the evidence kept mounting and everybody saw the pandemic for what it is, by that time it's too late. Your world leaders failed all of us by kow-tow-ing to Beijing and the CCP to try to get clarity. Yet you ignore the Democratic Country next door until it's too late.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-who-and-taiwan-11588978457
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52088167
https://www.france24.com/en/20200519-who-hijacked-the-who-and-can-it-impact-the-covid-19-whodunnit
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/taiwan-who-coronavirus-china/
https://time.com/5826025/taiwan-who-trump-coronavirus-covid19/

TIL: If youre the most to blame for a situation occurring then nobody else can be blamed for any part of it.

*Removes mask and coughs on old lady*

Its fine. You see, Im a VICTIM! Blame CHAYNA!

One_Day_Remains posted...

At this point you're probably lying about being Korean just like you've been lying about being a lawyer

Wait a min. Colby is Mixx A Lot? Lol!!

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Conflict posted...

Another reminder that YellowMustard69 is fenderbender before you decide to argue with him

Wow!! The alts are out in force today!!!

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Asians cant get a break.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

*Removes mask and coughs on old lady*

That's disgusting and you shouldn't do that. Shame on you!

Its fine. You see, Im a VICTIM! Blame CHAYNA!

You don't blame an entire country that is enslaved by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party).
You blame the Politicians in power, the CCP; they're a VERY large political party and clearly visible with Xi Jing-Ping at the had of the organization.

If you have anybody to blame, it's them, they make all the political decisions, every action has to go through the political party.

Xi Jinping wants China's private companies to fight alongside the Communist Party
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/business/china-private-sector-intl-hnk/index.html

President Xi Jinping has sent a message to China's private businesses: You can make money, but only if you follow my rules.
The ruling Chinese Communist Party this month published an unusually frank set of guidelines that call on its members to "educate private businesspeople to weaponize their minds with [Xi's] socialism ideology."
The private sector needs "politically sensible people," the directive said, who will "firmly listen to the party and follow the party."

https://hbr.org/2014/03/why-china-cant-innovate

To outsiders, China Netcom eventually looked like a modern telecom firm, with the governance structures needed to be listed on international stock exchanges. But it remained at heart a state-owned enterprise. When we teach our current case on China Netcom, we ask MBA students to scour the companys board for the real boss. Where, we ask, is the party secretary? The Communist Party requires a representative to be present in every company with more than 50 employees. Every firm with more than 100 employees must have a party cell, whose leader reports directly to the party in the municipality or province. These requirements compromise the proprietary nature of a firms strategic direction, operations, and competitive advantage, thus constraining normal competitive behavior, not to mention the incentives that drive founders to grow their own businesses.

The CCP is large, their membership is ~91,914,000 members
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party

To arrest and stop all 91.914 million members is going to be hard.

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JuanCarlos1 posted...

Can anyone elaborate their reasoning behind this? Like....it confirms that theres actual racism and they cant have that?

their reasoning is "racism good"

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So like 30 of them voted in favor?

I guess that's progress

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GoodOlJr posted...

No one in this thread will have read the entire legislation

Feel free to find the bad parts and enlighten us.

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littlebro07 posted...

So like 30 of them voted in favor?

I guess that's progress

It was 14 Republicans that voted in favor.

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DrizztLink posted...

We're not your second grade teacher, read it yourself.

I did read it. For example, part 1 says "that the House of Representatives calls on all public officials to denounce any and all anti asian sentiment in any form"

So a few questions:
1) How must the HOR call on them to do so?
2) what qualifies as denouncing?
3) how is anti asian sentiment defined?
4) what happens if a public officials doesn't?

These details are important. Also, I have to wonder do other races have these kinds of laws to protect them? If not, then does passing this law create racial tensions since other races are not offered this as well?

I just feel like discussions should involve this kind of context. Instead it's just automatically "these people must be racist". And they very well could be. But let's at least discuss the important details.

YellowMustard69 posted...

So a few questions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

can someone get a harpoon over here

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littlebro07 posted...

So like 30 of them voted in favor?

I guess that's progress

Actually 20-something either voted present or just didnt vote

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FWIW the AP News version of this story at least reports on the reasons some of those republicans gave:
https://x-men.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_Level_Mutants

Several House Republicans spoke against the resolution. Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said it was just another opportunity to attack the president. Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs called it woke culture on steroids. Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said it was ridiculous and a waste of time as the House was about to adjourn for the week and Democrats and the White House have so far failed to agree on additional coronavirus relief.

At the heart of this resolution is the absurd notion that referring to the virus as a Wuhan virus or the China virus is the same as contributing to violence against Asian Americans, which I will tell you no one on this side of the aisle supports, McCarthy said.

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s0nicfan posted...

Several House Republicans spoke against the resolution. Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said it was just another opportunity to attack the president. Arizona Rep. Andy Biggs called it woke culture on steroids. Republican leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said it was ridiculous and a waste of time as the House was about to adjourn for the week and Democrats and the White House have so far failed to agree on additional coronavirus relief.

At the heart of this resolution is the absurd notion that referring to the virus as a Wuhan virus or the China virus is the same as contributing to violence against Asian Americans, which I will tell you no one on this side of the aisle supports, McCarthy said.

what i'm hearing from them is "racism good"

the bill doesn't come after phrases like "wuhan virus" explicitly and claiming that's the heart of the resolution is an obvious lie that would only fool a complete moron

it goes after scapegoating of asian americans

so either you must agree that the phrase is scapegoating or there is no issue

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(A) to expeditiously investigate and document all credible reports of hate crimes and incidents and threats against the Asian-American community in the United States;
(B) to collect data to document the rise of incidences of hate crimes due to COVID19; and
(C) to hold the perpetrators of those crimes, incidents, or threats accountable and bring such perpetrators to justice; and

White Republicans have been physically assaulting Asian Americans, especially in cities ever since the Covid pandemic started.

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Sackgurl posted...

what i'm hearing from them is "racism good"

the bill doesn't come after phrases like "wuhan virus" explicitly and claiming that's the heart of the resolution is an obvious lie that would only fool a complete moron

it goes after scapegoating of asian americans

so either you must agree that the phrase is scapegoating or there is no issue

He is saying that's the heart of the resolution because it highlights how the bill treats people who use such phrases the same as people who engage in actual violence against Asians.

Whether that is accurate or not, I don't know because bills can be hard to interpret if you aren't a legal scholar. You're saying it doesn't explicitly go after that phrase, which implies that phrase would qualify as anti asian sentiment.

If McCarthy is correct that calling it the "Wuhan Virus" would be considered anti asian sentiment and is also correct that public officials would face consequences equal to that of somebody who had committed racially fueled violence against Asians I would agree that it's a silly bill.

However, my gut feeling is that McCarthy is exaggerating a bit and that I'd have to understand the specifics more to judge.

YellowMustard69 posted...

Whether that is accurate or not

it's not fuck off

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Gee I wonder why McCarthy would be so against this.

Wait

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/cdc-chief-spurns-term-chinese-coronavirus-used-gop-lawmakers-n1156656

Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., referred to the Chinese coronavirus"

Oh yeah that's why
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Sackgurl posted...

it's not fuck off

I'm totally down to read anything that points to why. I'm on your side. I want Democrats and Biden to win this election. I just don't assume anymore because it's made me look like a fool so many times. I'm really sorry for the inconveniences I've caused.

YellowMustard69 posted...

I want Democrats and Biden to win this election

some of us want that to happen. trump is doing a really crappy job. the liar in chief did it to himself.
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Yes please tell me more about how a right-wing Trump troll that's been shitting up CE for the last 5 years "want[s] Democrats and Biden to win this election".
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