Current Events > Joe rogan isn't transphobic people

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waterjoe
09/19/20 7:08:20 PM
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He keeps saying he completely ok with people being transgender its just that...

  1. He doesn't want children to have to be forced to undergo hormone changes just because their parents want political brownie points on the left.
  2. In the case of transgendered people in sports having the biological advantage over the other like a man who became a woman enters into the female division of UFC and can seriously hurt the woman they are going against.
I mean its seems pretty simple to understand.
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Cobalt_Wasps
09/19/20 7:10:04 PM
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he gets too much flak and i dont entirely understand why

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TheGreatGeno6
09/19/20 7:10:11 PM
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Alt Right Joe rogan isn't transphobic people


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Ooooooranges
09/19/20 7:12:39 PM
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Rogan is a moron but I agree with this topic.

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ohiostate124
09/19/20 7:12:45 PM
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Cobalt_Wasps posted...
he gets too much flak and i dont entirely understand why
Because he has a huge audience and he can influence a lot of young people.
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Guide
09/19/20 7:13:20 PM
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He's not maliciously transphobic, he's just really fucking stupid.

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emblem boy
09/19/20 7:13:27 PM
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I don't think he is transphobic either and I doubt most people think he is. He makes comments about issues that are probably overblown by the internet, and also not well thought out, but they seem to be legit curiosities that others probably have as well.
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AssAssasin69
09/19/20 7:14:25 PM
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Cobalt_Wasps posted...
he gets too much flak and i dont entirely understand why
It's because he's an individual and not a representative of either "side" like we're basically trying to boil everyone down to.

He also talks for like 12+ hours a week which gives both sides plenty of chances to quote him out of context and make him look bad

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waterjoe
09/19/20 7:14:44 PM
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EVER since the Spotify deal he's been attacked from everyone why?
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OmegaPillow
09/19/20 7:16:05 PM
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waterjoe posted...
EVER since the Spotify deal he's been attacked from everyone why?
People hate winners

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Cobalt_Wasps
09/19/20 7:16:40 PM
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waterjoe posted...
EVER since the Spotify deal he's been attacked from everyone why?
honestly, ive been a fan of his for about a year now, and ever since the spotify deal, he HAS changed
its a different show, and im slowly losing interest in it

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Delirious_Beard
09/19/20 7:17:52 PM
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if we ever get the ability to block certain topics based on keywords, "Rogan" will be the first on my list

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BeantownHero
09/19/20 7:23:10 PM
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He doesn't want children to have to be forced to undergo hormone changes just because their parents want political brownie points on the left.

The fact that he honestly believes this is happening or would happen with more mainstream trans acceptance highlights his transphobia

"Joe Rogan isnt against interracial marriage. Hes just worried about parents pressuing their kids to marry minorities for political brownie points"

that's what yall sound like


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OmegaPillow
09/19/20 7:24:45 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
The fact that he honestly believes this is happening or would happen with more mainstream trans acceptance highlights his transphobia

"Joe Rogan isnt against interracial marriage. Hes just worried about parents pressuing their kids to marry minorities for political brownie points"

that's what yall sound like
It's nothing like that at all lmao. Imagine comparing sexual orientation preferences with racism

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LightningAce11
09/19/20 7:27:49 PM
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Rogan is dangerously toeing the line of "A wise man knows he doesn't know everything" and "I'm an uneducated idiot and proud of it!"
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MorbidFaithless
09/19/20 7:28:16 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
sexual orientation preferences
Oh dear

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HannibalBarca3
09/19/20 7:28:30 PM
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Or just his career?

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Guide
09/19/20 7:29:08 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
It's nothing like that at all lmao. Imagine comparing sexual orientation preferences with racism

See, confusing sexual orientation with gender is a bad look.

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OmegaPillow
09/19/20 7:37:27 PM
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Guide posted...
See, confusing sexual orientation with gender is a bad look.
Thats what i meant gender lol brain fart . Imagine comparing gender preference to racism , that's not fair at all

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CyricZ
09/19/20 7:40:11 PM
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No he's transphobic person.

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BeantownHero
09/19/20 7:42:58 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
It's nothing like that at all lmao. Imagine comparing sexual orientation preferences with racism

Conjuring up some unrealistic scenario to justify his opinions is textbook bigotry

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/19/20 7:43:29 PM
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What kind of people is he?

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Fam_Fam
09/19/20 7:44:03 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
It's nothing like that at all lmao. Imagine comparing sexual orientation preferences with racism

who is talking about sexual orientation
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OmegaPillow
09/19/20 7:57:12 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
Conjuring up some unrealistic scenario to justify his opinions is textbook bigotry
Who cares ? Am i suppose to be insulted by being called a bigot ? Lol

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CyricZ
09/19/20 7:59:00 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
Who cares ? Am i suppose to be insulted by being called a bigot ? Lol
Generally people try not to be bigots.

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TheoryzC
09/19/20 8:29:11 PM
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From someone that's been listening to him for about a decade dude talks a lot about shit he knows nothing about

That apology he had to put out yesterday was a good example of that

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CyricZ
09/19/20 8:30:21 PM
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I mean that's my biggest complaint about him. He has this massive platform that he takes so little care with.

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sutree
09/19/20 8:31:17 PM
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Not wanting children to undergo hormone therapy and not wanting transwomen to participate in female sports are both considered transphobic by the people who typically use that term.

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BeantownHero
09/19/20 8:31:38 PM
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OmegaPillow posted...
Who cares ? Am i suppose to be insulted by being called a bigot ? Lol

This timeline has shown bigotry is rewarded with political power, so you dont really have a reason to be ashamed I guess

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MutantJohn
09/19/20 8:55:53 PM
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Permanently altering children with hormone therapy while all the science is still in flux is irresponsible at best.

I think we'll look back on it the same way we do with lobotomies.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
09/19/20 8:59:52 PM
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I think he is very uninformed on the process of going through the health hoops of transitioning. I understand the worries he has based on how he thought the process goes.

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I4NRulez
09/19/20 9:00:30 PM
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waterjoe posted...
He doesn't want children to have to be forced to undergo hormone changes just because their parents want political brownie points on the left.

i mean i agree with this but for any political stand. I dont think you should force politics, religion, sexual orientation, etc on a child. They'll come to it on their own

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SomeGuyUO
09/20/20 1:22:18 PM
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In the recent snowden episode, he was hell bent on talking about dead naming on Twitter and even snowden was like is this the hill you want to die on.
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iPhone_7
09/20/20 1:26:03 PM
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Cobalt_Wasps posted...
honestly, ive been a fan of his for about a year now, and ever since the spotify deal, he HAS changed
its a different show, and im slowly losing interest in it
How has it changed?

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DDirtyDastard
09/20/20 1:29:21 PM
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People just look for reasons to be outraged. They don't even look at the context.
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AlephZero
09/20/20 1:29:56 PM
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joe rogan and jk rowling should become an alt right power couple

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ohiostate124
09/20/20 1:29:57 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
How has it changed?
That new set is awful
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iPhone_7
09/20/20 1:35:10 PM
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ohiostate124 posted...
That new set is awful
But besides the look of the set (which I agree is really terrible). How has the show radically changed?

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Cobalt_Wasps
09/20/20 4:44:15 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
But besides the look of the set (which I agree is really terrible). How has the show radically changed?
he seems to set up his guests for arguments and counterpoints and lots of "well actually...."
also the set is terrible


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OffTempo
09/20/20 4:57:41 PM
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waterjoe posted...

1. He doesn't want children to have to be forced to undergo hormone changes just because their parents want political brownie points on the left.
2. In the case of transgendered people in sports having the biological advantage over the other like a man who became a woman enters into the female division of UFC and can seriously hurt the woman they are going against.

If this really is the only thing he has said in regards to trans issues, then I agree that he isn't transphobic.

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ZMythos
09/20/20 4:59:39 PM
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waterjoe posted...
He doesn't want children to have to be forced to undergo hormone changes just because their parents want political brownie points on the left.
There is lots of evidence that children perceive their own gender in their early years, and can also experience gender dysphoria. Furthermore transitioning is a both a medical and psychological process that includes lots of counseling and therapy for the child and their family as well as hormone blockers for children until they decide to fully transition. It's not like families are walking into hospitals demanding their child's genitalia is swapped right then and there >_>

waterjoe posted...
In the case of transgendered people in sports having the biological advantage over the other like a man who became a woman enters into the female division of UFC and can seriously hurt the woman they are going against.

This isn't the fault of trans women. There are women around the world who have varying levels of hormones of which some give them the "biological advantage" you/Rogan are referring to. Should they be barred from competing as well, despite being "biological women"? This is indicative of a deeper problem in how we define what a man or a woman is, and how we form divisions in sports. If you care about the impact hormones have on athletic ability, then perhaps stipulate on that and create divisions based on chemical makeup instead of placing the burden/blame on trans people.

The world isn't simple and it never was. Its complicated nature was merely masked by powerful groups intent on maintaining the status quo for a more productive society. But now we live in an age of information that has started to tear down these curtains and we're realizing how much more work we have to do to build a better society. And the prospect of doing that work and changing how one thinks and feels about what was in front of them this whole time is frightening. People like Joe Rogan likely aren't malicious in their beliefs, more so they're afraid of facing the truth and admitting that their perspective of the world was incredibly confined for a majority of their lives. Admitting you're wrong puts you in a vulnerable social state, and many will unreasonably double down on their wrongness to avoid that. It's an instinct we all need to overcome at some point, nobody was ever on the right side of history 100% of the time.

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MutantJohn
09/20/20 6:08:08 PM
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This isn't the fault of trans women. There are women around the world who have varying levels of hormones of which some give them the "biological advantage" you/Rogan are referring to. Should they be barred from competing as well, despite being "biological women"? This is indicative of a deeper problem in how we define what a man or a woman is, and how we form divisions in sports. If you care about the impact hormones have on athletic ability, then perhaps stipulate on that and create divisions based on chemical makeup instead of placing the burden/blame on trans people.

The problem is, we start letting transwomen compete in the women's division and then they shattered the previous records.

Yes, biological "women" have vary degrees of hormones as well but none of those variations resulted in absolutely dominating the sport.

Trans people need their own league.

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09/20/20 6:10:38 PM
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AlephZero posted...
joe rogan and jk rowling should become an alt right power couple
lol

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creativerealms
09/20/20 6:18:25 PM
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Is 1 even a thing that happens?

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ZMythos
09/20/20 6:30:46 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
The problem is, we start letting transwomen compete in the women's division and then they shattered the previous records.

Yes, biological "women" have vary degrees of hormones as well but none of those variations resulted in absolutely dominating the sport.

Trans people need their own league.

Having a separate division based on gender identity is discriminatory and only seeks to avoid the discussion on what really differentiates athletic ability. Again, if you really care about fairness then there needs to be a scientifically structured and systematized solution.

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Cobalt_Wasps
09/20/20 6:37:26 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Having a separate division based on gender identity is discriminatory and only seeks to avoid the discussion on what really differentiates athletic ability. Again, if you really care about fairness then there needs to be a scientifically structured and systematized solution.
how about who is the best "human" at any given event?
get rid of all denominations

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fan357
09/20/20 6:42:09 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Having a separate division based on gender identity is discriminatory and only seeks to avoid the discussion on what really differentiates athletic ability. Again, if you really care about fairness then there needs to be a scientifically structured and systematized solution.


Lmao. Lets have women and men compete in the same league in every sport then. Have fun with that.

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ZMythos
09/20/20 6:52:12 PM
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fan357 posted...
Lmao. Lets have women and men compete in the same league in every sport then. Have fun with that.
Dude shut the fuck up. Your comprehension of my post was so low that I bet you think the moral of "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" is to starve yourself.

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creativerealms
09/20/20 6:53:51 PM
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@AlephZero as a TERF JK Rowling is extreme left.

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