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_stingers_
09/16/20 4:44:48 PM
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Discuss

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paperwarior
09/16/20 4:50:28 PM
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Is that the exact prices of "Xbox"?

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ninkendo
09/16/20 4:51:02 PM
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pretty much exactly what everyone was predicting for PS5 so no surprises there

will get disc version

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red13n
09/16/20 4:51:25 PM
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i think the discless Xbox is $299 but it also has some featured ripped out to reduce the cost further.

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ninkendo
09/16/20 4:54:10 PM
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physical disks also drop in price quicker than digital games so I'll always get the physical option when it is offered

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red13n
09/16/20 4:55:13 PM
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ninkendo posted...
physical disks also drop in price quicker than digital games so I'll always get the physical option when it is offered

Yeah this will easily make up the $100 difference and then some over the life of a console.

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Lucavi000
09/16/20 4:57:31 PM
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red13n posted...
i think the discless Xbox is $299 but it also has some featured ripped out to reduce the cost further.

yes its not nearly as strong as the actual full blown xbox.

Probably getting the digital PS5 in 2021 sometime because discs are useless. You'll always still have to download multiple gigs of day 1 patches and other bullshit so might as well just get it all done digitally.


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Dragonair
09/16/20 4:57:36 PM
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ninkendo posted...
physical disks also drop in price quicker than digital games so I'll always get the physical option when it is offered

I was gonna say discless, but I guess this is true. Not sure which one would end up saving me more money

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Xiahou Shake
09/16/20 4:58:23 PM
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Getting that discless version, I'm more than ready to leave physical media in the past forever

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VeryInsane
09/16/20 4:58:30 PM
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did they talk about backwards compatibility at all there

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/16/20 4:59:01 PM
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Looks like they're doing a digital thing for PS4 games?

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VeryInsane
09/16/20 4:59:56 PM
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yeah I heard about that (Have something going on so I haven't quite been able to focus) but are those the only ones available or are there more planned

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Mac Arrowny
09/16/20 5:00:05 PM
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ninkendo posted...
physical disks also drop in price quicker than digital games so I'll always get the physical option when it is offered


huh, I thought you usually bought games when they're brand new
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colliding
09/16/20 5:00:30 PM
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yeah there's no backwards compatibility on this thing whatsoever

if you get playstation plus, you also get access to download a bunch of ps4 classics
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FFDragon
09/16/20 5:01:14 PM
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discless plz

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HashtagSEP
09/16/20 5:01:19 PM
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If they're doing a slow rollout for backwards compatibility, they better start with more than 10 games or whatever they showed.

Why is Sony always so bad about this

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ninkendo
09/16/20 5:01:52 PM
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colliding posted...
yeah there's no backwards compatibility on this thing whatsoever

if you get playstation plus, you also get access to download a bunch of ps4 classics

it will support full PS4 BC they already confirmed this months ago

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Mewtwo59
09/16/20 5:01:57 PM
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colliding posted...
yeah there's no backwards compatibility on this thing whatsoever

if you get playstation plus, you also get access to download a bunch of ps4 classics


Remember the full backwards compatibility rumors? Too bad those weren't true.
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HashtagSEP
09/16/20 5:03:23 PM
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colliding posted...
yeah there's no backwards compatibility on this thing whatsoever

if you get playstation plus, you also get access to download a bunch of ps4 classics

Well this isn't true because they already confirmed there is.

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ZaziGuado
09/16/20 5:03:51 PM
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I hardly ever use a disc drive, but I'll be getting the disc version because I like to buy the physical versions of the games I get truly hyped for as well as for some weird feeling that I truly own a game if I have the physical copy as opposed to being licensed to play it if I have the digital version.

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CasanovaZelos
09/16/20 5:05:23 PM
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I was thinking the disc drive would be important for 4k movies eventually but I can't tell if those are actually going to take off?

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Mewtwo59
09/16/20 5:05:43 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
If they're doing a slow rollout for backwards compatibility, they better start with more than 10 games or whatever they showed.

Why is Sony always so bad about this


Well, it's not like they have to try hard to look good next to Nintendo's offering.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/16/20 5:07:15 PM
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I hate juggling games on my hard drive so it's disc for me so I don't need to delete three things to download one.

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colliding
09/16/20 5:07:47 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Well this isn't true because they already confirmed there is.

One would think they would have advertised that then?
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HashtagSEP
09/16/20 5:09:35 PM
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colliding posted...
One would think they would have advertised that then?

They did.

Literally months ago.

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ninkendo
09/16/20 5:10:06 PM
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btw preorders open tomorrow at select retailers

GET ON IT

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Mac Arrowny
09/16/20 5:11:39 PM
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colliding posted...


One would think they would have advertised that then?


They've always said their numbers say very few people actually use BC, so that's probably why they're downplaying it in terms of advertising.
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HashtagSEP
09/16/20 5:12:07 PM
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This topic confused me since I saw the Plus Collection thing out of context.

That appears to be something outside of BC that is a benefit for Plus members.

They've already confirmed normal BC.

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paperwarior
09/16/20 5:14:22 PM
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They said "most of the top 100 PS4 games will be compatible at launch" and everyone assumed it meant none of the non-top-100 games would ever be. And now some are assuming that it doesn't even have BC. I guess they do need better marketing.

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LiquidOshawott
09/16/20 5:15:38 PM
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Actually the one thing I really hope they do is update/improve the store page

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Mac Arrowny
09/16/20 5:16:26 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I hate juggling games on my hard drive so it's disc for me so I don't need to delete three things to download one.


They've already confirmed all disc games will be full-install on the next-gen systems, so discs won't save you any space.
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colliding
09/16/20 5:16:45 PM
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OK - I acknowledge I was wrong. PS5 is backwards compatible with PS4 discs. Still think they would've mentioned that somewhere in that presentation...
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_stingers_
09/16/20 5:18:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure that PS5 games being full install is a necessity to get the kind of load times they were advertising with their SSDs. Discs just can't be read quickly enough.

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HashtagSEP
09/16/20 5:19:57 PM
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colliding posted...
OK - I acknowledge I was wrong. PS5 is backwards compatible with PS4 discs. Still think they would've mentioned that somewhere in that presentation...

Well, this presentation didn't get into the console features/specs at all, just upcoming titles/such, so there's no real reason to expect it here. They already covered that stuff previously.

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Corrik7
09/16/20 5:21:56 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
They've already confirmed all disc games will be full-install on the next-gen systems, so discs won't save you any space.
It amazes me how many people don't realize this and continue to tout this difference.

The main difference between digital and physical is that physical you can get games for cheaper.

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BetrayedTangy
09/16/20 5:22:41 PM
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I'm just gonna wait til a price drop and get the physical version. Aside from Spidey there's not that many launch titles I'm excited for

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paperwarior
09/16/20 5:23:01 PM
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I have a bunch of PS4 discs already so I need the optical drive for those at least.

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DoomTheGyarados
09/16/20 5:23:32 PM
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It was a quick chat to choose because we will fairly often sell back games we buy so no need to he discless

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VeryInsane
09/16/20 7:46:29 PM
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ok it looks like it's going to be close to full BC

so I'm probably getting the disc just to get some use out of the ps4 disc games I have

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Mac Arrowny
09/16/20 7:49:48 PM
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My PS4 disc collection:

FFXV
Mass Effect Andromeda (got it for free)
Persona 5
Nier Automata
Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far

Everything else is digital. If I wanted to replay P5 I'd probably buy Royal, so there's not too much holding me back in terms of PS4 discs. Just gotta wait for the ultimate for real this time KH collection on PS5...
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Lucavi000
09/16/20 8:27:45 PM
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preorders up on some sites.

Best buy, target, etc

edit: listings already up on ebay.


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09/16/20 8:35:05 PM
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MawiIe
09/16/20 11:13:05 PM
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I bought a ps4 almost exclusively for ps2 games on ps4

and then literally the week I bought it they stopped updating them and hid them in the store so they could pretend backwards compatibility was unpopular.

So yeah, fool me twice and all that. Most games made for the ps4 hardware weren't really very good, I don't expect I'll want many ps5 games until it's a few years old.

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Corrik7
09/17/20 1:33:19 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
My PS4 disc collection:

FFXV
Mass Effect Andromeda (got it for free)
Persona 5
Nier Automata
Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far

Everything else is digital. If I wanted to replay P5 I'd probably buy Royal, so there's not too much holding me back in terms of PS4 discs. Just gotta wait for the ultimate for real this time KH collection on PS5...
I think I have more than you lol.

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RikkuAlmighty
09/17/20 2:03:06 AM
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well i got a digital preorder in

not even sure why because i'm not too interested in this system right now
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