Current Events > Twenty-nine German police suspended for sharing pictures of Hitler

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime-hitler/twenty-nine-german-police-suspended-for-sharing-pictures-of-hitler-idUSKBN2671ZK?il=0

DUESSELDORF, Germany (Reuters) - Twenty-nine police officers have been suspended in Germany for sharing pictures of Adolf Hitler and doctored depictions of refugees in gas chambers on their mobile phones, officials in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW) said on Wednesday.

They are also accused of using far-right chatrooms where extremist content, such as Swastikas and other Nazi symbols, that breaches the German constitution was shared.

The incident is embarrassing for German police and security agencies, who have faced accusations of not doing enough to unearth potentially violent nationalists in their ranks.

It is a sensitive issue in a country where awareness of the World War Two genocide of millions of Jews by the Nazis under Hitler is strong.
This is a disgrace for the NRW police, said NRW Interior Minister Herbert Reul, announcing an investigation against 29 male and female officers.
Some of the suspects could be charged with disseminating Nazi propaganda and hate speech and could be dismissed from the police. Others are accused of failing to report their colleagues.

Im appalled and ashamed, said Frank Richter, chief of the police force in the city of Essen where most of the suspects worked. It is hard to find words.
German prosecutors said last month they were investigating a retired police officer suspected of sending threatening emails, signed with the name of a gang of neo-Nazi killers, to prominent figures of immigrant background.

The emails, including some sent to legislators with a Turkish background, were signed NSU 2.0, a reference to the National Socialist Underground neo-Nazi gang, which killed 10 people, mainly immigrants, between 2000 and 2007.

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its depressing when germany cracks down on nazi's in the police force harder then america...

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Kein Raum fr Nazischweine

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This is a disgrace for the NRW police, said NRW Interior Minister Herbert Reul, announcing an investigation against 29 male and female officers.

Wait was this translated from German? It seems weird to randomly mention the genders like that >_>

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trump's people

Its just pictures why is it a problem?

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skermac posted...

Its just pictures why is it a problem?

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skermac posted...

Its just pictures why is it a problem?

just a prank bro i was only pretending to be a nazi calling for refugee genocide

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skermac posted...

Its just pictures why is it a problem?

In Germany it's illegal to talk about the Nazis (especially Hitler) in any non educational context.

Even goosestepping and Nazi outfits are illegal. They stomp down HARD on it. The theory is that if eveyone ignores the Nazis all the time they will go away

It's completely backfired as a stratergy though because the amount of far-right nutbags in German has shot up over the past few generations
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Life in prison for them all
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UnfairRepresent posted...

In Germany it's illegal to talk about the Nazis (especially Hitler) in any non educational context.

Even goosestepping and Nazi outfits are illegal. They stomp down HARD on it. The theory is that if eveyone ignores the Nazis all the time they will go away

It's completely backfired as a stratergy though because the amount of far-right nutbags in German has shot up over the past few generations

PLEASE stop spreading misinformation, holy shit.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

In Germany it's illegal to talk about the Nazis (especially Hitler) in any non educational context.

Even goosestepping and Nazi outfits are illegal. They stomp down HARD on it. The theory is that if eveyone ignores the Nazis all the time they will go away

It's completely backfired as a stratergy though because the amount of far-right nutbags in German has shot up over the past few generations

Will you ever in your life shut the fuck up and stop posting nonsense you know nothing about?

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Choco posted...

PLEASE stop spreading misinformation, holy shit.

It's not misinformation. It's true.

Do you know when Germany allowed Nazi iconography to appear in video games?

2018

Stick of Truth was literally delayed in Germany because it contained Nazi Zombie enemies and Germany declared that illegal admiration of Nazis. Then censored them.... Reminder this is a comedy game... where you kill Nazi Zombies in one small part as a joke...

Until then it had to be removed because it was illegal. If you goosestep you will be arrested, if you own a Swaskita you will be arrested, Holocaust Denial is a crime.

They don't pussyfoot around it like they do in the US. There are no free speech protections.

Documentaries and textbooks are fine but you can't bring up, promote or talk about the Nazis or Hitler in a non educational context. It's illegal.

Try living there and see for yourself
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monkmith posted...

its depressing when germany cracks down on nazi's in the police force harder then america...

but they just suspend them like we do

no prison.

Trump is going to bring them here to America to join the force.

UnfairRepresent posted...

In Germany it's illegal to talk about the Nazis (especially Hitler) in any non educational context.

This is a lie.

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acab

Ignore unfair as he is a known troll.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Documentaries and textbooks are fine but you can't bring up, promote or talk about the Nazis or Hitler in a non educational context. It's illegal.

Once again, this is blatantly false.

UnfairRepresent posted...

It's not misinformation. It's true.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Try living there and see for yourself

Where the fuck do you think Choco lives genius

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So Unfair has now claimed to live in the UK and Germany lol.

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Hornezz posted...

This is a lie.

Then tell that to the people who are telling THIS VERY NEWSTORY who pointed out that these officers violated the German constitution.

This isn't Montana. You can't meme Nazis in Germany. Try walking around in a Nazi costume in Germany and Goosestepping. See how far you get. Then report back and tell me I'm lying one more time.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

You can't meme Nazis in Germany. Try walking around in a Nazi costume in Germany and Goosestepping.

Moving the goalposts now. I thought it was "illegal to talk about them in a non educational context"?

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Stop feeding him.

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They did Nazi that one coming etc

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So in Germany, they randomly just take your phone to see what youve been doing? Thats insanely fucked up.

Why is no one talking about this?

Geisterdrache posted...

Moving the goalposts now. I thought it was "illegal to talk about them in a non educational context"?

Non educational is my wording.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

Everything Nazi related is banned "Outside the contexts of "art or science, research or teaching"."
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Then tell that to the people who are telling THIS VERY NEWSTORY who pointed out that these officers violated the German constitution.

This isn't Montana. You can't meme Nazis in Germany. Try walking around in a Nazi costume in Germany and Goosestepping. See how far you get. Then report back and tell me I'm lying one more time.

Is your entire knowledge of Germany based on an old joke from Fawlty Towers?

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Non educational is my wording.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

Everything Nazi related is banned "Outside the contexts of "art or science, research or teaching"."

Iconography now = talking about I guess.

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If only we had someone in this topic from Germany who might shed some light onto the validity of unfairrepresent's claims......
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Hornezz posted...

Is your emtire knowledge of Germany based on an old joke from Fawlty Towers?

No it's from having lived in Germany and knowing many Germans.

And from the numerous examples of this very fact (including this topic's news article itself) of the laws.

There was a massive effort in Germany following WW2 (Well at least a while after anyway) to make amends for the Nazis and one of the efforts was to effectively "Ban Nazis" from existence under the strategy it would cause no future ones to form.

You're literally claiming Germany's Consitution doesn't exist and then ignoring everything I say just to call me a liar.

Go play Stick of Truth and see for yourself.

Fawlty Towers is a good show tho.
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southcoast09 posted...

So in Germany, they randomly just take your phone to see what youve been doing? Thats insanely fucked up.

Why is no one talking about this?

Literally southcoast

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Try living there and see for yourself

LMFAO

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this reminds me of when some american idiot on reddit responded a comment i made with "r/shitamericanssay"

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spikethedevil posted...

Iconography now = talking about I guess.

Within the understanding of the law? Yes.

Same way in the US a flag is considered free speech.

They'd claim Iconography includes "Propaganda" and a website or fanbase or chatgroup about the Nazis would qualify. As I've already pointed out, Goosestepping is considered Iconography, Hitler's moustache is considered Iconography, in the sense that they violate the law. Photos and memes would be considered Iconography
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Literally southcoast

Care to address what I said? What would your response be if a government official demanded your cellphone to see it? you would flip your shit, and dont give me any crap about how cops should have to do it.

Youre just one of those rules for you and not for me people.

Unfair sure doesn't know when to give up.
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Choco posted...

this reminds me of when some american idiot on reddit responded a comment i made with "r/shitamericanssay"

@Choco What are the laws on it under interest? As unfair is determined to argue against a guy from Germany lol.

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I called you a liar because you are lying.

It's illegal to fly Nazi flags and spread Nazi propaganda, it's by no means illegal to talk about them.
Also, I currently live about a 15 min drive away from Germany and have spent plenty of time there, some of which was spent talking about WW2 and Nazis.

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Unfair sure doesn't know when to give up.

i'm just glad people are seeing right through his bs.
way too often does misinformation spread from 1 misinformed or malicious person to 100 others who are too naive.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Within the understanding of the law? Yes.

Same way in the US a flag is considered free speech.

They'd claim Iconography includes "Propaganda" and a website or fanbase or chatgroup about the Nazis would qualify. As I've already pointed out, Goosestepping is considered Iconography, Hitler's moustache is considered Iconography, in the sense that they violate the law. Photos and memes would be considered Iconography

None of what you listed is people talking about them and is also all you making shit up via assuming what the German authorities would do while you have probably never even been to Germany.


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86 StGB Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations

Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda:
of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party;
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means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization,
shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

That's what they mean by "Iconography"

Anything at all that is "Propaganda that furthers the aims of the Nazis or any other group which is akin to the Nazis" is illegal.

If you say "Well talking about the Nazis with a group of like minded people isn't iconography" you're right via the dictionary but wrong via the German Consitution.
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Hey Unfair, protip: Try shutting the fuck up and let the people who are actually from Germany do the talking.

Literally sitting here trying to argue with people that actually live in the country about their own country's laws. What an imbecile.
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Choco posted...

Wait was this translated from German? It seems weird to randomly mention the genders like that >_>

Idk is it? At least you know it's not just a bunch of wanna-be fascist white dudes.
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It's always hilarious when people who have never left the US try to shitpost about other countries. CE's right loves doing it about Germany in particular.

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Again false, none of what you posted prohibits talking about them. You have HAD SOMEONE FROM GERMANY telling you youre wrong. How long have you spent over there?

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Geisterdrache posted...

It's always hilarious when people who have never left the US try to shitpost about other countries. CE's right loves doing it about Germany in particular.

Hes shit posted about the UK before then argued about with me... the person from England lol.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

They don't pussyfoot around it like they do in the US. There are no free speech protections.

As there shouldn't be.

Language that incites violence is already illegal in America. You can't shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater. So why the fuck is it okay to promote genocide?

Lock up all the fucking Nazis.
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And he was never seen again

i will continue to recommend blocking posters like unfair. the more people who block him, the less topics he can attempt to derail and keep up his contrarian gimmick

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Unfair still hasn't told me if his Russian friend is single.

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