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Tyranthraxus
09/15/20 4:03:25 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
Except I'm not trying to justify my (or in this case America's) existence. I'm not passing it off to lighten any well-justified criticism. All I said was that I felt that China treated Muslims worse in response to someone who said otherwise.

The thing is I'm not why "China being worse" matters or why it is an important distinction to make. (PS we've been torturing Muslims since 2001)

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monkeysRfunny
09/15/20 4:12:57 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The thing is I'm not why "China being worse" matters or why it is an important distinction to make. (PS we've been torturing Muslims since 2001)
Because it was literally the post that I was referring to. That's why I quoted the post that I did. So I could respond to the subject in it.

Although I didn't realize we just scooped Muslims up to throw into internment camps. Are there sources on how similar it is to China's situation? Like we just imprison people based on their race or religion, then torture them and make them praise dear leader Trump?

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scar the 1
09/15/20 4:20:16 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
Like we just imprison people based on their race or religion, then torture them and make them praise dear leader Trump?
That's pretty similar to what's going on in American concentration camps (see: this topic), but those have mostly refugees from Central America

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/20 4:31:02 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
Like we just imprison people based on their race or religion, then torture them and make them praise dear leader Trump?

That's what this topic is about just not with muslims.


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monkeysRfunny
09/15/20 4:33:21 AM
#108:


scar the 1 posted...
That's pretty similar to what's going on in American concentration camps (see: this topic), but those have mostly refugees from Central America
Yeah, we clearly have really different standards if that's your definition of "pretty similar", so I'm just going to end this conversation.

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/20 4:38:24 AM
#109:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Yeah, we clearly have really different standards if that's your definition of "pretty similar", so I'm just going to end this conversation.
You should read the full whistleblower complaint.

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monkeysRfunny
09/15/20 4:41:17 AM
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I honestly don't want to read through 26 pages of that just to argue with someone on a video game forum

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Zeeak4444
09/15/20 4:46:27 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
I honestly don't want to read through 26 pages of that just to argue with someone on a video game forum

to be clear what youre saying is you just dont care enough about whats happening to read the report period.


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scar the 1
09/15/20 4:59:14 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
Yeah, we clearly have really different standards if that's your definition of "pretty similar", so I'm just going to end this conversation.
No, you just admit you don't care what's going on so you're going to settle for "China is worse" when the actual issue here is that the US is running concentration camps and mass sterilizing (among other things) women in them.

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bknight
09/15/20 5:14:34 AM
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Well, Trump is going to have to go full QAnon and talk about the liberals and their child trafficking detention centers at pizza parlors now, going to be epic.
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Dark_SilverX
09/15/20 5:19:21 AM
#114:


This is terrible. America is becoming real trash.

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bknight
09/15/20 5:21:10 AM
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Also, you can't be pro-choice if you don't have a choice, the pro-life people are going to love this, or hate it, who knows.
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SuperShake666
09/15/20 5:24:52 AM
#116:


Dr. Mengele would be proud to see that America was the home of the Fourth Reich.

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Fam_Fam
09/15/20 10:14:59 AM
#118:


Dark_SilverX posted...
This is terrible. America is becoming real trash.

"becoming"

you realize that America has been horrible to minorities since...before it began?
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darkphoenix181
09/15/20 10:23:56 AM
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I bet you could get some conservatives to turn on Trump by arguing they are using their tax payer money for expensive surgeries to minorities; whether it is expensive or not.
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FursonaNonGrata
09/15/20 10:45:29 AM
#120:


Dark_SilverX posted...
This is terrible. America is becoming real trash.

Aren't you the dude who posted Vinlander shit a while ago? Like the white supremacist gang Vinlander shit?

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Lysandear
09/15/20 1:25:07 PM
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bump
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Taharqa_
09/15/20 1:55:18 PM
#123:


This is history repeating itself. This isn't new territory for the government, there have been forced sterilizations of black women in the 50s and 60s in the South, Native American women, Puerto Rican women, etc.

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ModLogic
09/15/20 2:15:55 PM
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Machete
09/15/20 2:20:44 PM
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ModLogic posted...
fuck USA


This is what happens when we allow donald trump
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FortuneCookie
09/15/20 2:23:31 PM
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Biden and Harris better put a stop to this.

<_<

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Lysandear
09/15/20 2:26:32 PM
#128:


FortuneCookie posted...
Biden and Harris better put a stop to this.

<_<
The fuck is this supposed to mean

go back to bitching about your anthropomorphic cartoon fox girl getting a breast reduction due to SJWs
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FortuneCookie
09/15/20 2:31:46 PM
#129:


Lysandear posted...
The fuck is this supposed to mean

That I'm hoping the next administration ends this and that this isn't something both parties are passively okay with. We know Trump will continue to allow it. He's probably the direct cause of it. If the other side would turn a blind eye and let it continue, then it really doesn't make a difference who wins -- evil still prevails.

go back to bitching about your anthropomorphic cartoon fox girl getting a breast reduction due to SJWs

Time and place, buddy.

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Gwynevere
09/15/20 2:55:09 PM
#130:


FortuneCookie posted...
Biden and Harris better put a stop to this.

<_<
Not gonna happen

This kind of shit is tradition in the US

I'm not saying they're not worth voting for, since I do believe that the progressives most likely to help put an end to this reside in the Democrat party, but it's not coming directly from someone like Biden

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Notti
09/15/20 4:50:16 PM
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https://www.nwhn.org/age-can-get-hysterectomy/

"Technically, any woman of legal age can consent to the procedure, but it should be medically justified. Its incredibly unlikely that a doctor will perform a hysterectomy on women ages 18-35 unless it is absolutely necessary for their well-being and no other options will suffice. This is because of possible physical and emotional risks. Complications during surgery can include infection, hemorrhaging, or bladder or bowel damage, but the risks of these are rather low. Long-term, it can increase the risk of stroke, bone loss, heart attacks, urinary issues, and early onset menopause in younger women. Possible complications that can impact a womans sex life includes vaginal dryness and a lack of interest in sex. It also prevents the possibility of a biological pregnancy, which can cause depression and psychological stress in some women. "
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Geisterdrache
09/15/20 5:44:47 PM
#132:


Notti posted...
https://www.nwhn.org/age-can-get-hysterectomy/

"Technically, any woman of legal age can consent to the procedure, but it should be medically justified. Its incredibly unlikely that a doctor will perform a hysterectomy on women ages 18-35 unless it is absolutely necessary for their well-being and no other options will suffice. This is because of possible physical and emotional risks. Complications during surgery can include infection, hemorrhaging, or bladder or bowel damage, but the risks of these are rather low. Long-term, it can increase the risk of stroke, bone loss, heart attacks, urinary issues, and early onset menopause in younger women. Possible complications that can impact a womans sex life includes vaginal dryness and a lack of interest in sex. It also prevents the possibility of a biological pregnancy, which can cause depression and psychological stress in some women. "
What point are you attempting to make

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ModLogic
09/15/20 7:28:52 PM
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Antifar
09/15/20 7:38:59 PM
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If your defense against this is that forced hysterectomies seem outlandish, you should keep in mind that there's a documented history of the practice in the not so distant past

http://www.msnbc.com/all/eugenic-sterilization-victims-belated-justice
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BigSLM1993
09/15/20 8:17:32 PM
#135:


Antifar posted...
If your defense against this is that forced hysterectomies seem outlandish, you should keep in mind that there's a documented history of the practice in the not so distant past

http://www.msnbc.com/all/eugenic-sterilization-victims-belated-justice
As far back as Buck v Bell in the 1920's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell
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thronedfire2
09/15/20 8:24:34 PM
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And I dont know why people think surgery would be expensive to perform in an interment camp. Theyre expensive in hospitals for what should be obvious reasons

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VonOrdelia
09/15/20 8:25:56 PM
#137:


So is there any actual proof of this?

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/20 8:29:07 PM
#138:


VonOrdelia posted...
So is there any actual proof of this?

If you think someone is willing to fake a 27 page legal complaint then any proof that exists doesn't matter in the first place to you.

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VonOrdelia
09/15/20 8:32:42 PM
#139:


Tyranthraxus posted...
If you think someone is willing to fake a 27 page legal complaint
And Brenton Tarrant had a 74 page manifesto, I don't see how the length of it or what it is makes it a fact.

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KobeSystem
09/15/20 8:44:54 PM
#140:


VonOrdelia posted...
And Brenton Tarrant had a 74 page manifesto, I don't see how the length of it or what it is makes it a fact.
i am euphoric in this moment

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Antifar
09/15/20 10:04:48 PM
#141:


VonOrdelia posted...
So is there any actual proof of this?

You can believe a nurse who worked there and multiple women who say this happened to them, or the United States government, currently run by Donald Trump. I know which side I find more trustworthy.
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scar the 1
09/16/20 1:41:13 AM
#142:


Somewhat related: Joe Biden thought it was a good idea to appeal to Latino voters by playing Despacito from his cell phone during some press event

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Romes187
09/16/20 1:47:20 AM
#143:


Ill need more proof for shit that comes out this close to an election

if true its outrageous and people ought to be tried for life. But big claims require big evidence.
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scar the 1
09/16/20 1:52:22 AM
#144:


Romes187 posted...
Ill need more proof for shit that comes out this close to an election

if true its outrageous and people ought to be tried for life. But big claims require big evidence.
What is that evidence supposed to look like? Like, what evidence is "big" enough?

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marc55
09/17/20 9:00:56 AM
#145:


scar the 1 posted...
Somewhat related: Joe Biden thought it was a good idea to appeal to Latino voters by playing Despacito from his cell phone during some press event

whats wrong with it ?

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scar the 1
09/17/20 9:12:09 AM
#146:


marc55 posted...
whats wrong with it ? or are you mad the author of the song supports him unlike the ones who told trump to not use their music
I think it's pretty tone deaf

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Geisterdrache
09/17/20 9:20:50 AM
#147:


scar the 1 posted...
Somewhat related: Joe Biden thought it was a good idea to appeal to Latino voters by playing Despacito from his cell phone during some press event
After he was introduced by the creator of the song*

acts of genocide, cheesy old man shit, BOTH SIDES

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HydraSlayer82
09/17/20 9:30:45 AM
#148:


darkphoenix181 posted...
I bet you could get some conservatives to turn on Trump by arguing they are using their tax payer money for expensive surgeries to minorities; whether it is expensive or not.
This topic is horrible but this is hilarious.

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HydraSlayer82
09/17/20 9:32:57 AM
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Also, Buck vs. Bell was insane. Fucking Francis Galton and fucking Nazis. Thank you Radiolab.

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scar the 1
09/17/20 10:05:41 AM
#150:


Geisterdrache posted...
After he was introduced by the creator of the song*

acts of genocide, cheesy old man shit, BOTH SIDES
Oh yeah, that's a great excuse for not addressing the ongoing genocide of Hispanics and instead holding your phone to the mic to play Despacito.
Biden served as VP in an administration that used ICE to deport over a million people, many Hispanics, and that built the cages. He paved the way for the genocide that is going on and instead of owning up to that he plays Despacito on his cellphone as an adorably cringe boomer. But that's ok because the creator of the song introduced him right?

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COVxy
09/17/20 10:32:12 AM
#151:


scar the 1 posted...
and that built the cages

This is kinda super misleading though, is it not?

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Geisterdrache
09/17/20 10:33:53 AM
#152:


scar the 1 posted...
Oh yeah, that's a great excuse for not addressing the ongoing genocide of Hispanics and instead holding your phone to the mic to play Despacito.
Biden served as VP in an administration that used ICE to deport over a million people, many Hispanics, and that built the cages. He paved the way for the genocide that is going on and instead of owning up to that he plays Despacito on his cellphone as an adorably cringe boomer. But that's ok because the creator of the song introduced him right?
You keep saying this in every topic, but ive yet to see you condemn Trumps administration for it, and you just keep deflecting to Biden Gee, wonder why.

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baby_yoda
09/17/20 10:40:53 AM
#153:


scar the 1 posted...
Oh yeah, that's a great excuse for not addressing the ongoing genocide of Hispanics and instead holding your phone to the mic to play Despacito.
Biden served as VP in an administration that used ICE to deport over a million people, many Hispanics, and that built the cages. He paved the way for the genocide that is going on and instead of owning up to that he plays Despacito on his cellphone as an adorably cringe boomer. But that's ok because the creator of the song introduced him right?

why are you defending trump by deflecting on Biden?


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scar the 1
09/17/20 11:18:50 AM
#154:


Geisterdrache posted...
You keep saying this in every topic, but ive yet to see you condemn Trumps administration for it, and you just keep deflecting to Biden Gee, wonder why.
Oh sorry, here it is:
Trump is an absolute monster and a fascist piece of shit.
The reason I'm criticizing Biden here is because I think Trump's opponent in the election should publicly vow to stop this genocide (and then actually stop it if he gets elected), and I feel that his silence on the issue is not good.

EDIT: Do you actually take me for a Trump supporter or are you just fucking with me?

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