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Junkratprime03
09/08/20 1:20:34 AM
#101:


I'll be getting a Nintendo anyway

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SF_Okami
09/08/20 1:20:58 AM
#102:


hyperpowder posted...
All the things your bragging about have very little to do with games. Are you buying a console to look at the dashboard or are you trying to play games?
Keep in mind you are raving about the games and only the games, the one part that has nothing to do with the console at all. So is the PS a good system? Or is it just the games that hold it up?

That other shit is important lol

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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:21:52 AM
#103:


hyperpowder posted...
It's still a line of credit...

Not like buying it with a credit card. You buy a console with a credit card, you pay $500 up front (in credit) and if you take 12 months to pay it, you're paying interest on $500.

All access financing is $0 down and your only bill is the $35 a month or whatever plan you opt for for 12 months.

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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:22:29 AM
#104:


SF_Okami posted...
Keep in mind you are raving about the games and only the games, the one part that has nothing to do with the console at all. So is the PS a good system? Or is it just the games that hold it up?

Lol I'm a gamer, I play games. Like I dont know what else to tell you, the dashboard and voice chat are just fine on the PS4.

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Bio1590
09/08/20 1:22:47 AM
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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:23:07 AM
#106:


hyperpowder posted...
My gaming PC can't run FF7R, TLoU2, or GoT. 3 of the best games this year that I've played

So you think $180 for 3 games a year is a good deal?

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Northlane
09/08/20 1:23:16 AM
#107:


Someone pointed this out somewhere else but this is the first time in history that a next gen console has a price and date set without anyone ever having seen any games running on it yet

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pepper2012
09/08/20 1:23:32 AM
#108:


Darmik posted...
It's also $25 per month for the Series S and $35 per month for the Series X for financing options.

if you need to finance a $300 Xbox you shouldnt be buying an Xbox tbh

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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:24:20 AM
#109:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Not like buying it with a credit card. You buy a console with a credit card, you pay $500 up front (in credit) and if you take 12 months to pay it, you're paying interest on $500.

All access financing is $0 down and your only bill is the $35 a month or whatever plan you opt for for 12 months.

You guys are seriously drinking some heavy koolaid with Xboxs marketing. I can go finance a PS5 with zero interest also. That isn't something exclusive to Xbox.

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Darmik
09/08/20 1:24:29 AM
#110:


pepper2012 posted...
if you need to finance a $300 Xbox you shouldnt be buying an Xbox tbh

It includes Game Pass Ultimate as well. So it's not that bad a deal at all. You could pay that and nothing else and have loads to play.

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Questionmarktarius
09/08/20 1:24:51 AM
#111:


pepper2012 posted...
if you need to finance a $300 Xbox you shouldnt be buying an Xbox tbh
Anyone remember that 360 SKU that had a three year Gold contract or something?
I forgot most of the details.
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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:25:00 AM
#112:


Tyranthraxus posted...
So you think $180 for 3 games a year is a good deal?

It's better than paying $300 for 0 games.

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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:25:58 AM
#113:


Northlane posted...
Someone pointed this out somewhere else but this is the first time in history that a next gen console has a price and date set without anyone ever having seen any games running on it yet
That's not true. Microsoft had two press releases that showed some games. Sure, not many, but they did.

It's more likely, however, that it has happened in the past. All of Sony's E3 demos in 2015 for PS4 were running on PCs .

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Darmik
09/08/20 1:26:38 AM
#114:


hyperpowder posted...
You guys are seriously drinking some heavy koolaid with Xboxs marketing. I can go finance a PS5 with zero interest also. That isn't something exclusive to Xbox.

That wouldn't include PS+ or Playstation Now.

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JBaLLEN66
09/08/20 1:26:46 AM
#115:


Sad that my gpu costs more

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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:27:39 AM
#116:


hyperpowder posted...
It's better than paying $300 for 0 games.

It's 2020 why are you still using memes from 2005

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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:27:55 AM
#117:


Darmik posted...
That wouldn't include PS+ or Playstation Now.

Oh no I got to pay an extra 50 dollars, what ever will I do?

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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:28:22 AM
#118:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's 2020 why are you still using memes from 2005

I didn't know that was a meme lol

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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:28:58 AM
#119:


hyperpowder posted...
I didn't know that was a meme lol
Sure you didn't

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Darmik
09/08/20 1:30:30 AM
#120:


hyperpowder posted...
Oh no I got to pay an extra 50 dollars, what ever will I do?

Accept that it's not as good a deal I guess.

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AvantgardeAClue
09/08/20 1:32:06 AM
#121:


hyperpowder posted...
All the things your bragging about have very little to do with games. Are you buying a console to look at the dashboard or are you trying to play games?

If you buy consoles solely based on exclusives....then chances are you never were interested in the Xbox to begin with.

Except, Xbox's list of exclusives this gen have all done pretty well to critical feedback. Forza Horizon 4 is either the highest rated game in the series or the highest rated Xbox exclusive this gen, one of the two. Maybe both. Gears and Halo 5, for all the sobbing and crying people have made about it, have also stood up to critical and most user reviews. Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Rare Replay, Ori 2? Banger x4.

Ironically, I can think of PS4 exclusive bombs way easier as I can the critically acclaimed ones. Order 1886, Days Gone, Knack, Killzone, LBP3 sucked in comparison to the first two. A lot of current multiplats had to get moved over to PS4 after lots of bitching and moaning.

And I mentioned all those "things" because unless you only interact with the console when you turn it on and off, chances are that there are some things that pisses off PS4 users about the way the system interacts. I can think of many things that have gotten significantly more annoying since launch. In comparison, the Xbox UI has only gotten better and better.

Ironically, if you're just buying the system to play any and all games the Series S/X is still probably the better buy, since the more powerful hardware means that multiplat games will probably look the best on them between the two.

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The Sock
09/08/20 1:32:57 AM
#122:


What's the point of getting an Xbox when all Xbox exclusives go to the PC anyway?

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hyperpowder
09/08/20 1:33:15 AM
#123:


Darmik posted...
Accept that it's not as good a deal I guess.

I mean i don't think paying 300 dollars for a gimped machine is either.

If anything this topic made me release how broke gamers really are and maybe Microsoft is on to something.

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AvantgardeAClue
09/08/20 1:35:08 AM
#124:


The Sock posted...
What's the point of getting an Xbox when all Xbox exclusives go to the PC anyway?

Most people buying a console don't own or want a gaming PC, I think a lot of people seem to forget this

hyperpowder posted...


If anything this topic made me release how broke gamers really are and maybe Microsoft is on to something.

Well yeah lol

Anyone with money usually just builds a gaming PC

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Darmik
09/08/20 1:35:49 AM
#125:


The Sock posted...
What's the point of getting an Xbox when all Xbox exclusives go to the PC anyway?

Not everyone has a gaming PC

hyperpowder posted...
I mean i don't think paying 300 dollars for a gimped machine is either.

If anything this topic made me release how broke gamers really are and maybe Microsoft is on to something.

The initial cost of a console is a big barrier for many people.

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SF_Okami
09/08/20 1:35:55 AM
#126:


What if I dont care for the exclusives of either console? What is the selling point of each then? I buy for everything except the exclusives because neither side has games I feel I need to play. I buy Xbox because I feel it is a better package.

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SF_Okami
09/08/20 1:36:28 AM
#127:


The Sock posted...
What's the point of getting an Xbox when all Xbox exclusives go to the PC anyway?
Some people like me have both and just prefer consoles lol.

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SeamusOHassey
09/08/20 1:36:57 AM
#128:


I have money and I'm going to buy the Xbox. I don't care about building a PC. I'm a console guy.

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SeamusOHassey
09/08/20 1:37:25 AM
#129:


Darmik posted...
Not everyone wants a gaming PC

Just saying.

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Grischnak
09/08/20 1:37:46 AM
#130:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
If you buy consoles solely based on exclusives....then chances are you never were interested in the Xbox to begin with.

The OG Xbox and the 360 had a lot of dope exclusives dude. Far far more then the Xbox One.

AvantgardeAClue posted...
Ironically, if you're just buying the system to play any and all games the Series S/X is still probably the better buy, since the more powerful hardware means that multiplat games will probably look the best on them between the two.

Unless you're a PC gamer. At which point, consoles are only worth it for exclusives. Which is an area where Microsoft doesn't even really try anymore.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/08/20 1:42:54 AM
#131:


Grischnak posted...
Unless you're a PC gamer.

Umm, about that

SF_Okami posted...
Some people like me have both and just prefer consoles lol.

SeamusOHassey posted...
I don't care about building a PC. I'm a console guy.

AvantgardeAClue posted...
Most people buying a console don't own or want a gaming PC,


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spanky1
09/08/20 1:48:44 AM
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Darmik
09/08/20 1:49:57 AM
#133:


I think the whole concept of a console only having value for exclusives is going to be a dated concept sooner rather than later.

If PC's ever get to the point where they're just as accessible as a console (and I think this day is getting closer and closer) the traditional concept of a console is gonna die off very, very quickly and it'll be the people who invested in storefronts who will rake in the cash.

All it would take is Microsoft or NVIDIA releasing a console and them saying "Hey you can download Steam, GOG, Epic Store on this thing and you can use it all with a controller. Have at it." and that's the beginning of the end.

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Bio1590
09/08/20 1:50:07 AM
#134:


hyperpowder posted...


You guys are seriously drinking some heavy koolaid with Xboxs marketing. I can go finance a PS5 with zero interest also. That isn't something exclusive to Xbox.

You can't do it directly through Best Buy unless you sign up for their credit card, and they also only give you 12 months to pay everything back.
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Grischnak
09/08/20 1:51:46 AM
#135:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Umm, about that

No shit not everyone wants a gaming PC. Gaming PCs are for "hardcore gamer" types. The thing you're missing is that those same "hardcore gamer" types are the same people that buy $500 consoles. Which is to say, people like me. It's not like I don't want the Xbox Series X to be good. I'd happily buy it if there was value there. But I'm not seeing it. Saying "Well it'll have a better UI" is absurd. I'm not dropping $500 on a UI.
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WhatsUpMyGuy
09/08/20 1:53:31 AM
#136:


I saw the specs. It costing only $500 is insane to me.

Microsoft must be going all out to try to stay alive here. They are going to be super in the red right off the bat and if they don't succeed they aren't going to recover.
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Darmik
09/08/20 1:57:54 AM
#137:


Grischnak posted...
No shit not everyone wants a gaming PC. Gaming PCs are for "hardcore gamer" types. The thing you're missing is that those same "hardcore gamer" types are the same people that buy $500 consoles. Which is to say, people like me. It's not like I don't want the Xbox Series X to be good. I'd happily buy it if there was value there. But I'm not seeing it. Saying "Well it'll have a better UI" is absurd. I'm not dropping $500 on a UI.

I don't think every hardcore gamer has a gaming PC. There's crossover for sure but I don't think it's a guarantee at all.

Again if you have a gaming PC Xbox isn't trying to sell you a console. Their strategy is to try and reach everyone. Console gamers have their traditional consoles. PC gamers have Steam and Game Pass. Casuals have xCloud and Xbox All Access.

They're really not missing out on anything with this strategy unless there's a whole load of PC gamers out there who buy consoles for exclusives and also buy multiplats on it. But those people would probably buy a Series X.

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Tyranthraxus
09/08/20 1:59:22 AM
#138:


Darmik posted...
They're really not missing out on anything with this strategy unless there's a whole load of PC gamers out there who buy consoles for exclusives and also buy multiplats on it. But those people would probably buy a Series X.

Doubly so because of GPU.

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Questionmarktarius
09/08/20 1:59:35 AM
#139:


Darmik posted...
I don't think every hardcore gamer has a gaming PC.
That's not a requirement?

I wouldn't know anyway, from fucking off in Nintendoland this generation, twice.
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OmegaPillow
09/08/20 2:09:45 AM
#140:


Nice !

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OmegaPillow
09/08/20 2:12:40 AM
#141:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Moderate price cuts for Switch and Switch Lite around October or November could dominate the holidays this year, but Nintendo won't do that.
Theyll cut ten dollars off their first parties the most

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MabusIncarnate
09/08/20 2:13:07 AM
#142:


The Sock posted...
What's the point of getting an Xbox when all Xbox exclusives go to the PC anyway?
My Xbox digital library is over 800 games, between One and 360 BC titles. If you can build me a PC that will last the next 5 years of the next generation that will play all of those games that I own, without slowdown or the need for an upgrade, that will play at respectable specs, for $500 total, sign me up. I'll give it a try. As long as I can still play all my games with my friends who game on Xbox, who i've been paying with for over 10 years, can play with me on PC.

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Questionmarktarius
09/08/20 2:13:58 AM
#143:


OmegaPillow posted...
Theyll cut ten dollars off their first parties the most
Walmart already did that.
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Bio1590
09/08/20 2:14:51 AM
#144:


Darmik posted...
Console gamers have their traditional consoles. PC gamers have Steam and Game Pass. Casuals have xCloud and Xbox All Access.

??????????????? XAA includes GPU so you get PC Game Pass as well
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MabusIncarnate
09/08/20 2:14:59 AM
#145:


Oh, and the EA NHL series is probably my most played game annually, so I can play that on PC also, right? I can just download that off of Steam.

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Obstacle2
09/08/20 2:15:18 AM
#146:


Sony = Gone-y

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Bio1590
09/08/20 2:15:18 AM
#147:


Questionmarktarius posted...

Walmart already did that.

On their own dime, not Nintendo's.
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Questionmarktarius
09/08/20 2:16:41 AM
#148:


Bio1590 posted...
On their own dime, not Nintendo's.
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Darmik
09/08/20 2:17:13 AM
#149:


MabusIncarnate posted...
My Xbox digital library is over 800 games, between One and 360 BC titles. If you can build me a PC that will last the next 5 years of the next generation that will play all of those games that I own, without slowdown or the need for an upgrade, that will play at respectable specs, for $500 total, sign me up. I'll give it a try. As long as I can still play all my games with my friends who game on Xbox, who i've been paying with for over 10 years, can play with me on PC.

You know I think if the Series consoles do flop this is their backup plan tbh. Could even add that functionality to those consoles if they really wanted.

But yeah as long as they keep up BC I'm basically always updating to the new Playstation and Xbox. If Playstation or Xbox ever drop it again I'm probably done with them.

Bio1590 posted...
??????????????? XAA includes GPU so you get PC Game Pass as well

Ah yeah sure. I'm just taking the assumption that those people don't have gaming PC's.

They would be able to play a chunk of games on something like a laptop as a free bonus though which is neat.

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MabusIncarnate
09/08/20 2:20:41 AM
#150:


I'm not trying to be a jerk, but there are multiple, legitimate reasons to remain a console owner. The only stupid argument I hear constantly is "exclusives" like no other games exist, exclusives make up for half a percentage of games released annually. Awesome, Playstation gets 3 games a year i'd want to play more than I get on my Xbox. That's not a game changer for me. I play more indies than anything.

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