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CruelBuffalo 09/08/20 2:21:57 AM #151: |
BettyWhite posted...
After having so many 360s break on me while having the same PS3 for the last 9 years, I will never buy a new Microsoft console out of principal. Why would you do that? An Xbox One can play Lost Odyssey... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/08/20 2:24:39 AM #152: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why would you do that? An Xbox One can play Lost Odyssey...Dude! Blue Dragon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWtpAzbEnc8 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 09/08/20 2:26:30 AM #153: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Dude!an Xbox One (and Series X) can also play Blue Dragon as well lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/08/20 2:27:03 AM #154: |
CruelBuffalo posted...
an Xbox One (and Series X) can also play Blue Dragon as well lolThen why aren't you doing that? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 2:28:02 AM #155: |
Grischnak posted...
No shit not everyone wants a gaming PC. Gaming PCs are for "hardcore gamer" types. The thing you're missing is that those same "hardcore gamer" types are the same people that buy $500 consoles. Which is to say, people like me. It's not like I don't want the Xbox Series X to be good. I'd happily buy it if there was value there. But I'm not seeing it. Saying "Well it'll have a better UI" is absurd. I'm not dropping $500 on a UI. I think you're severely underestimating the amount of people care about console exclusives that aren't Nintendo games lol, why do you think so many people bought a 360 over the PS3? Certainly not to play Blue Dragon and Ninety-Nine Nights lol The hardcore gamers should be buying the Xbox anyways, since it'll have better multiplats, just like the One X The PS4 has a "good enough" UI because it has no incentive to improve. That's why the shit looks unchanged from 2013, despite the occasional good idea gaining traction online. The UI matters because it's your primary way to interact with the console. I've never heard anyone say "gosh I wish the PS4 always had to copy massive update files before they installed them" or "I love having to go to the media folder to access YouTube all the way at the end" --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 09/08/20 2:28:32 AM #156: |
I hope they reveal what the improvements are for BC games.
I'd love if all 360 and OG XB1 games got automatic resolution and HDR upgrades. Honestly the biggest thing PC gamers often ignore with Xbox games on PC is that the Xbox/Windows Store sucks and the games are expensive as fuck on Steam. MabusIncarnate posted... I still have my launch Xbox One, it's on for 8+ hours a day and i've had zero issues. I also have an X1X but the One is our primary living room entertainment box. It's nothing like the 360 as far as reliability issues. The failure rate is tremendously lower. Yeah hardware reliability was hugely improved from everyone this generation. Only exception I can think of are the Switch Joycons. MabusIncarnate posted... How did you quote me before I posted Time travel --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 2:29:02 AM #157: |
I still have my launch Xbox One, it's on for 8+ hours a day and i've had zero issues. I also have an X1X but the One is our primary living room entertainment box. It's nothing like the 360 as far as reliability issues. The failure rate is tremendously lower.
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 2:31:49 AM #158: |
How did you quote me before I posted
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Tyranthraxus 09/08/20 2:32:22 AM #159: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
As long as I can still play all my games with my friends who game on Xbox, who i've been paying with for over 10 years, can play with me on PC. This part is built into Windows 10 at no cost. MabusIncarnate posted... My Xbox digital library is over 800 games, between One and 360 BC titles. If you can build me a PC that will last the next 5 years of the next generation that will play all of those games that I own, without slowdown or the need for an upgrade, that will play at respectable specs, for $500 total, sign me up. I'll give it a try.This part here is more difficult. I don't think any 360 titles work on PC. And. It's guaranteed that a decent chunk of your XB1 titles don't run either on simple account if there just not existing a PC version like any Madden game. The $500 price tag is also kinda tough and really depends on what you're willing to cut in the name of a lower budget. Like, you don't need a chassis. You can just slap the circuit boards together and turn it on. Right then and there. Not having a chassis can. Save you around $60 at the cost of your computer guts are exposed to the world. I think if I spent several days hunting for refurbished or used parts I could probably do it but I wouldn't personally use a machine like that and can't in good faith recommend anyone else use one either. I think they're fun experiments though. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 09/08/20 2:40:50 AM #160: |
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1303213264441024514
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Tyranthraxus 09/08/20 2:42:17 AM #161: |
SuperShake666 posted...
https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1303213264441024514God tier tweet --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grischnak 09/08/20 2:42:51 AM #162: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
I think you're severely underestimating the amount of people care about console exclusives that aren't Nintendo games lol, why do you think so many people bought a 360 over the PS3? Certainly not to play Blue Dragon and Ninety-Nine Nights lol No, they bought it play Halo and Gears back when those names meant something. There was also shit like Mass Effect 1 which, lets not forget, was a 360 exclusive at launch. Fable 2 was also quite good. And of course all those many Forza games. Yes, 360 exclusives still numbered far less then PS3 and Nintendo systems but it was enough to buy a console for. AvantgardeAClue posted... The PS4 has a "good enough" UI because it has no incentive to improve. That's why the shit looks unchanged from 2013, despite the occasional good idea gaining traction online. The UI matters because it's your primary way to interact with the console. I've never heard anyone say "gosh I wish the PS4 always had to copy massive update files before they installed them" or "I love having to go to the media folder to access YouTube all the way at the end" OK. Lets say you think it's worth missing out of dozens of excellent exclusives for the sake a smoother UI. What about people like me? People that have a gaming PC and who will get new ones often enough that consoles will never edge out my PC in terms of UI or specs. Why should I get an Xbox Series X? With the PS5, shitty UI or not, at least they'll be a lot of games on it that I know I can't play on my PC. What does the Series X offer me? Why should I buy it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 2:48:34 AM #163: |
It's only a matter of time. Remember when Rockstar games were PS exclusive? Remember when Yakuza was PS exclusive? Remember when MLB The Show was exclusive? Remember when Metal Gear was exclusive? I do. That's a lot of strong games Sony lost exclusive rights to eventually.
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Darmik 09/08/20 2:48:48 AM #164: |
Grischnak posted...
OK. Lets say you think it's worth missing out of dozens of excellent exclusives for the sake a smoother UI. What about people like me? People that have a gaming PC and who will get new ones often enough that consoles will never edge out my PC in terms of UI or specs. Why should I get an Xbox Series X? With the PS5, shitty UI or not, at least they'll be a lot of games on it that I know I can't play on my PC. What does the Series X offer me? Why should I buy it? Again you don't need to. Microsoft will try to convince you to subscribe to Game Pass. Which will give them way more money than you buying a console for a handful of exclusives. You likely won't need to buy a PS5 to play their games either. They're porting more games to PC and even if they don't they can be streamed on PS Now. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 2:50:15 AM #165: |
Damn, never thought about like that Your move Sony --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grischnak 09/08/20 2:51:40 AM #166: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
It's only a matter of time. Remember when Rockstar games were PS exclusive? Remember when Yakuza was PS exclusive? Remember when MLB The Show was exclusive? Remember when Metal Gear was exclusive? I do. That's a lot of strong games Sony lost exclusive rights to eventually. Yeah, sure, but that's not the case yet so what does that matter? If everything becomes multi-platform in 3 generations or something then I'll just go full on PC Master Race. For now though, exclusives still very much exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/08/20 2:52:50 AM #167: |
Grischnak posted...
If you have so much money that you can regularly build new PCs, why don't you just get both consoles? That's what I did \_()_/ I got a launch X1X and a PS4 Slim when they dropped down to $200 and a good stockpile of exclusives had built up. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 2:55:29 AM #168: |
Grischnak posted...
"Dozens"? Buddy I own just about every PS4 exclusive worth having and it's barely 20 games. And yeah, lots of previous Sony-exclusives are gonna be multiplat before long. Death Stranding? MLB The Show? Horizon Zero Dawn? I'm already waiting for the FF7 Remake on Xbox next year lol Grischnak posted... What about people like me? Exclusive hypebeasts will always get the PlayStation. Everyone else will get whatever console is cheaper or the one they have more friends on. Grischnak posted... Why should I get an Xbox Series X? Because you don't have a gaming PC, but you already said that's you didn't want one so idk why you brought it up again. I own a fucking Wii U. I never want to hear people brag about console exclusivity again --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 2:56:50 AM #169: |
Grischnak posted...
Yeah, sure, but that's not the case yet so what does that matter? If everything becomes multi-platform in 3 generations or something then I'll just go full on PC Master Race. For now though, exclusives still very much exist. 3 generations from now Nintendo might be the only console exclusive platform. By that logic, you're gonna be only getting Nintendo consoles in the future lol --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 2:58:34 AM #170: |
Grischnak posted...
Yeah, sure, but that's not the case yet so what does that matter? If everything becomes multi-platform in 3 generations or something then I'll just go full on PC Master Race. For now though, exclusives still very much exist.My backlog will keep me entertained until then. I can wait. People treat these Sony exclusives like orgasmic gold, when there's many alternate options. There's nothing special about Uncharted that isn't offered in Tomb Raider. There's just such an egotistical backing of Sony's collection of games that no one else can play that people get an alpha boner for them like it's god-tier gaming above everything else. Thankfully we live in an era of hundreds of hundreds other games are released annually to give us options and not limit us to the 0.2% of exclusives PS fans excessively praise. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 09/08/20 3:00:06 AM #171: |
People don't seriously think Sony will just port Horizon Zero Dawn and be done with PC gaming yeah? lol
If you're a PC gamer who only cares about console exclusives fucking wait two years and see how everything plays out. Playstation Now is a thing. Sony themselves have said they'll port more games to PC. Sony mysteriously invested in Epic Games who have a PC storefront and Epic is promoting the PS5. Microsoft started porting new release first party games a mere two years after the Xbox One launch. A lot can change very quickly. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 3:00:43 AM #172: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
My backlog will keep me entertained until then. I can wait. People treat these Sony exclusives like orgasmic gold, when there's many alternate options. There's nothing special about Uncharted that isn't offered in Tomb Raider. There's just such an egotistical backing of Sony's collection of games that no one else can play that people get an alpha boner for them like it's god-tier gaming above everything else. Thankfully we live in an era of hundreds of hundreds other games are released annually to give us options and not limit us to the 0.2% of exclusives PS fans excessively praise. And like I mentioned before, for everyone critically acclaimed PS4 exclusive I can dig up one 6/7 out of 10 one that's been memoryholed --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 3:05:08 AM #173: |
BTW I bought the great Sony exclusive Nier Automata the other day and downloaded it... on my Xbox.
Shit. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 3:06:01 AM #174: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
BTW I bought the great Sony exclusive Nier Automata the other day and downloaded it... on my Xbox. Did you also happen to play it in 4K HDR, something not possible on the PS4? Or perhaps download it from the glorious Game Pass at no extra charge? --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 3:08:15 AM #175: |
That's right, I did get it on Gamepass and didn't pay a cent extra for it
Why the FUCK do I have an Xbox? There's virtually no reason at all. No benefits whatsoever. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Big_Gold 09/08/20 3:10:15 AM #176: |
So which console is faster/stronger? Are there any performance advantages when using discs? Asking for a casual gamer friend that only plays sports, COD, and GTA.
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Cornhuskers 09/08/20 3:14:19 AM #177: |
If only Nintendo would go 4K.
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 3:14:41 AM #178: |
Big_Gold posted...
So which console is faster/stronger? Are there any performance advantages when using discs? Asking for a casual gamer friend that only plays sports, COD, and GTA.What sports games? If it's NHL I can speak from experience. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/08/20 3:16:54 AM #179: |
Cornhuskers posted...
If only Nintendo would go 4K.Nintendo has been a pile of stingy bastards since 1889. Don't get your hopes up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodmoon77 09/08/20 3:17:24 AM #180: |
Same price as the launch One not bad. Give it a year and it'll be 399.
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Big_Gold 09/08/20 3:21:17 AM #181: |
MabusIncarnate posted...
Just Madden and NBA2K. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 3:22:24 AM #182: |
Big_Gold posted...
So which console is faster/stronger? Are there any performance advantages when using discs? Asking for a casual gamer friend that only plays sports, COD, and GTA. Between all consoles you'd want the Series X, this goes for just about all multi platforms, just like with the One X --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 09/08/20 3:22:31 AM #183: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
I mean if Walmart US tells you they're selling something for $10 less than MSRP all you can do is shrug your shoulders lol. Wish they'd do it in Canada too though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/08/20 3:25:24 AM #184: |
Bio1590 posted...
I mean if Walmart US tells you they're selling something for $10 less than MSRP all you can do is shrug your shoulders lol. I think Walmart may have been behind the Nintendo price-fixing lawsuit back in the late 80s. Irony, eh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 09/08/20 3:26:14 AM #185: |
Big_Gold posted...
Just Madden and NBA2K.Oh alright, I'm an avid NHL player, and a bit of Fifa and would argue the skill stick works a lot better on an Xbox elite controller than a dual shock. Not sure the controller matters as much in those games, i'm a button shooter in NBA and don't play Madden --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Big_Gold 09/08/20 3:27:41 AM #186: |
Thanks guys.
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DrizztLink 09/08/20 3:28:46 AM #187: |
TheBlueMonk_ posted...
it sounds like the series x is optimized for 4k and the series s is optimized for 1080p, and digital games only.Digital games only like one completely lacks a disc drive? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grischnak 09/08/20 3:30:13 AM #188: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
"Dozens"? Buddy I own just about every PS4 exclusive worth having and it's barely 20 games. The PS4 has 229 exclusives. Now a lot of them might not interest me personally but it's certainly more then 20 games. AvantgardeAClue posted... Exclusive hypebeasts will always get the PlayStation. Everyone else will get whatever console is cheaper or the one they have more friends on. Exclusive hypebeast? Did you not read my posts? I've always bought every console since I've been able to afford it. I don't have some sort of bias or whatever bullshit you seem to be arguing. I'm actually more annoyed with Sony as a company right now then I am with Microsoft tbqh. Regardless though, I fail to see a reason to buy a Series X and you're really not giving arguments why it's worth buying for me. AvantgardeAClue posted...
So the Series X is only worth buying if you don't have a gaming PC? And you don't see a problem with that? AvantgardeAClue posted... 3 generations from now Nintendo might be the only console exclusive platform. By that logic, you're gonna be only getting Nintendo consoles in the future lol Why lol? Why would I buy a console if all the games it has I can play on my PC? I mean, back in the day you could make arguments about preferring consoles due to controllers or playing on TV instead of monitors, but these days almost every single new PC game has controller support(aside from certain PC exclusive games) and it's very easy to play PC games on your TV. Aside from exclusives, modern consoles offer pretty much nothing over a gaming PC other then cost. Which is fine for people that can't afford or don't want a gaming PC but for people that do have them console exclusives are pretty much the only thing consoles have to offer. MabusIncarnate posted... My backlog will keep me entertained until then. I can wait. People treat these Sony exclusives like orgasmic gold, when there's many alternate options. There's nothing special about Uncharted that isn't offered in Tomb Raider. There's just such an egotistical backing of Sony's collection of games that no one else can play that people get an alpha boner for them like it's god-tier gaming above everything else. Thankfully we live in an era of hundreds of hundreds other games are released annually to give us options and not limit us to the 0.2% of exclusives PS fans excessively praise. Ok. You guys seem really confused about the conversation we're having. I'm a Xbox fan. I've owned every Xbox console. I'm not a Sony shill saying Microsoft sucks and Sony rules or something. I would love to buy a Series X. But the Xbox One disappointed me immensely in the games it offered and Series X seems to not be turning the ship around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 3:59:50 AM #189: |
Grischnak posted...
You said "excellent" exclusives though. I counted exactly 10 non-multiplatform games in Metacritic's top 30 PS4 games. Wanna take a wild guess where the other 201 are? You claim that you're an Xbox fan (yeah fucking right) and yet don't understand the value in having more games available on more platforms without any red tape. Why some people would rather have all their games available on a single console with reliable physical media they can use for years to come. Don't feel obligated to buy a PS5 because you feel like you're missing out, because Sony knows that's really all they have right now. Grischnak posted... I would love to buy a Series X. But the Xbox One disappointed me immensely in the games it offered and Series X seems to not be turning the ship around. You mean the exclusives that were popular enough to make their way to PS4 and PC and did fairly well on Metacritic despite the connotations that every Xbox game was Sea of Thieves? We gonna act like Microsoft Flight Simulator didn't get the smoothest 10/10 in years? I don't see how you can say the One didn't have worthwhile games then only get excited for only sequels of PS4 games on the PS5. That's like me saying I didn't want to get a Switch back in 2017 because the Wii U disappointed me. --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 09/08/20 4:12:17 AM #190: |
Grischnak posted...
So the Series X is only worth buying if you don't have a gaming PC? And you don't see a problem with that? What is the problem supposed to be? Remember when people were excited over Steam Machines before people realised that it wasn't enough like a console? --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kelystic 09/08/20 4:21:50 AM #191: |
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TheoryzC 09/08/20 4:29:52 AM #192: |
PC dudes mind are already made up
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DrizztLink 09/08/20 4:32:13 AM #193: |
Kelystic posted...
what is the difference?The X is set for 4k and is like 4 times as many teraflops, whatever the fuck that means. S is 1080p and may or may not lack a disc drive. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AvantgardeAClue 09/08/20 4:34:49 AM #194: |
I'm more curious about the power difference between the two consoles
Resolution aside will they be able to run the games at an almost identical level? If so that could result in more Series S's being sold than usual, even with the no-disc thing Xbox is usually fairly more generous in their sales than Sony too, so I'm sure most digital libraries can fill up fast --- Sometimes I say things and I'm not voice acting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 09/08/20 4:51:17 AM #195: |
AvantgardeAClue posted...
I'm more curious about the power difference between the two consoles The goal is for the games to basically be the same outside of resolution and stuff related to that (so texture resolution, lighting resolution etc.) So similar to what you see between the Xbox One S and Xbox One X. The potential problem is if Xbox Series X does not to commit to 4k games so the Series S might be dropping down to 720p or lower to make up for that. No idea how a 1440p game on Series X would scale down for example. That's still a big if though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 09/08/20 5:16:45 AM #196: |
The Series S reveal trailer
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Darmik 09/08/20 5:22:12 AM #197: |
512GB isn't a huge surprise given the price. Probably will see a 1TB revision in a year or two if the Series S is a success.
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spikethedevil 09/08/20 5:23:19 AM #198: |
They still sound like new versions of the BONE and may suffer the same fate as the WiiU as a result.
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Iodine 09/08/20 5:43:37 AM #199: |
4k and 60 FPS standard is really good. I hope the PS5 can match that.
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Collat 09/08/20 6:00:28 AM #200: |
For that price, this might be the first gen I buy all 3 consoles. I'll probably be fine with the Series S as long as all games run on it.
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