Current Events > I dont see how essential workers are benefiting at all.

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They're overworked and tired. Sure they've still got a job and some receive more pay.... but why are unemployed people making more than an essential worker? Referring to those that work in grocery stores and warehouses.

GIT-GUD posted...

but why are unemployed people making more than an essential worker?

They're not.
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Rathinor posted...

They're not.

/https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/882957793/when-essential-workers- earn-less-than-the-jobless-we-put-the-country-on-our-back

seems like they were for a time being

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Health insurance is pretty nice, don't get that on unemployment.


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Theyre not essential

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Kazi1212 posted...

/https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/882957793/when-essential-workers- earn-less-than-the-jobless-we-put-the-country-on-our-back

seems like they were for a time being

Paying the essential workers more should have been the answer instead of cutting off the needed stimulus for unemployed people.

There's 50+ unemployment systems in the U.S.. A $600 bonus was just a quick patchwork.

Kazi1212 posted...

/https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/882957793/when-essential-workers- earn-less-than-the-jobless-we-put-the-country-on-our-back

seems like they were for a time being

Maybe the problem is that wages are too low?

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Rathinor posted...

Paying the essential workers more should have been the answer instead of cutting off the needed stimulus for unemployed people.

In which those unemployed people spent it on brand new cars and shit on Amazon.

The23rdMagus posted...

Maybe the problem is that wages are too low?

wages in the US are very high

The23rdMagus posted...

Maybe the problem is that wages are too low?

Or maybe people have no idea how inflation works.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

wages in the US are very high

And yet they don't seem to go far enough for the people at the bottom.

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I do like how minimum wage peons are suddenly "essential workers"

fuck off with that empty pablum

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The23rdMagus posted...

And yet they don't seem to go far enough for the people at the bottom.

Then it sounds like wages aren't the problem!

HylianFox posted...

I do like how minimum wage peons are suddenly "essential workers"

fuck off with that empty pablum

So I guess you're okay with restaurant closures then.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Then it sounds like wages aren't the problem!

Cool. So we have essential workers whose jobs have to be done, and they're still paid like shit.

The job is necessary, but whoever does it has to deal with poverty. Hmm.

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Were not benefiting. At all.

Oh we got an extra $2 an hour for a few months there. Whoop-de-doo.

Ill never stop being salty* that people on unemployment (especially younger people who didnt even need it) got more than I did working a 45-hour 6-day work week where I had to drive about 40 minutes one way to get there.

*Id actually stop being salty about it if someone said hey, heres like $10,000 for busting your ass at your shitty grocery store job where you got treated like dirt, thanks for doing that in these troubling times but thats not gonna fucking happen.

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rexcrk posted...

Oh we got an extra $2 an hour for a few months there. Whoop-de-doo.

Lucky.

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At least you got extra pay.

Where I work, we don't even get that. (HVAC Distribution)

I make more than the current and previous unemployment benefits thats how

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WashYourHands posted...

I make more than the current and previous unemployment benefits thats how

What's your job? Just because you're working now doesn't make you essential, lots of people are working from home.

HylianFox posted...

I do like how minimum wage peons are suddenly "essential workers"

fuck off with that empty pablum

...They're essential workers because they work at high-value jobs like food service and retail/grocery. They just so happen to be paid minimum wage. What is the average consumer going to do without those things?
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We're not better off at all especially in the health field. No matter what we will always have employment, but also we're more overworked now without extra pay.

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We aren't. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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ButteryMales posted...

What's your job? Just because you're working now doesn't make you essential, lots of people are working from home.

Sanitation

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rexcrk posted...

Were not benefiting. At all.

Oh we got an extra $2 an hour for a few months there. Whoop-de-doo.

Ill never stop being salty* that people on unemployment (especially younger people who didnt even need it) got more than I did working a 45-hour 6-day work week where I had to drive about 40 minutes one way to get there.

*Id actually stop being salty about it if someone said hey, heres like $10,000 for busting your ass at your shitty grocery store job where you got treated like dirt, thanks for doing that in these troubling times but thats not gonna fucking happen.

I appreciate you. Also, no amount of unemployment money can buy character and a good work ethic and at the end of the day you can at least know that you have that.

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ZT6 posted...

Also, no amount of unemployment money can buy character and a good work ethic

They're being paid less than unemployment so this makes no sense.

ButteryMales posted...

They're being paid less than unemployment so this makes no sense.

Yes that's my point. OP continues to work for less while others sit at home making more.

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GIT-GUD posted...

In which those unemployed people spent it on brand new cars and shit on Amazon.

That's the point of stimulus! To meet the economy's needs, not people's.
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Antifar posted...

That's the point of stimulus! To meet the economy's needs, not people's.

This entirely. They are more concerned about the economy than peoples lives. If people are making 60% of their normal wages on unemployment, they spend less, companies aren't selling as much, and the economy starts to tank. The sole and literal reason for the stimulus money is to stimulate the economic numbers. The government doesn't give a shit if you are an essential worker or not working, they want the money to keep flowing.

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I think overnight being a nurse went into a pretty enviable job in my area. I live in a place where there are oodles of nurses already but yeah. If an essential worker has job security right now in this climate, and they're not dealing with pay cuts, then I'd have to see that as a benefit. If the argument is that grocery store workers suddenly need to be paid a lot more - yeah, just no. It's eminently replaceable.

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My job involves processing payroll for hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people across the country

I got a $0.08/hr raise and three covid scares

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Rathinor posted...

They're not.
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I know plenty of people that were getting $800 a week for doing absolutely nothing, while restaurant workers were working every single day making nowhere near $800 a week or $3k+ a month.

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rexcrk posted...

Were not benefiting. At all.

Oh we got an extra $2 an hour for a few months there. Whoop-de-doo.

Ill never stop being salty* that people on unemployment (especially younger people who didnt even need it) got more than I did working a 45-hour 6-day work week where I had to drive about 40 minutes one way to get there.

*Id actually stop being salty about it if someone said hey, heres like $10,000 for busting your ass at your shitty grocery store job where you got treated like dirt, thanks for doing that in these troubling times but thats not gonna fucking happen.

Pretty much this.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I know plenty of people that were getting $800 a week for doing absolutely nothing, while restaurant workers were working every single day making nowhere near $800 a week or $3k+ a month.

I'm still working and I only clear about $500 a week.

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Rathinor posted...

They're not.
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We're not. Profits are up but also corporate is cutting hours. If it didn't sound so stupid, I would guess PHARMACY CHAIN EMPLOYER is invested heavily on the vaccine producers and want to max out infections before it rolls out and cashing in on it big. It's laughable how one day we just got rid of all the enhanced cleaning and social distancing measures and can no longer refuse to serve someone without a mask. "New policy from corporate says..." yeah fuck off.

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They are benefiting by staying productive to our society. Bless the frontline workers!



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essential is too pretty a word for what they really are, the real word is expendable

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I know plenty of people that were getting $800 a week for doing absolutely nothing, while restaurant workers were working every single day making nowhere near $800 a week or $3k+ a month.

So you're jealous they're making more than you, is that it?
Also, learn to read tense. I said they're not, present tense