Board 8 > Good diets for mentally lazy people?

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Basically easy calorie counting that doesnt require me to guesstimate how much the steak was and put it into an app

Thanks in advance

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Eggs for breakfast. Have a piece of toast or something with avocado or tomato or something fun on it.

Lunch/Dinner is a combo of chicken breast, turkey, fish, with fibrous veggies.

Don't touch fast food

Absolutely no soda, and limit alcohol to a drink or two a week.

Snacks are things like carrots or nuts.

boom, weight will fly off you.

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OMAD, son.

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Also for the record counting calories is stupid (except I guess when you're weight lifting and need to hit goals to grow)

Just change what and how you eat

For example, a large coke from a fast food place is right around 300 calories - it takes about an hour of jogging to burn that much. Which sounds easier to drop 300 calories from your day - an hour jog, or not having that soda. Jogging is also like the worst exercise in the world for losing weight but it's peoples go to so it's my example.

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FFDragon posted...

OMAD, son.

yeah stuff like this is awful for most people

You'll lose weight, sure, but unless you plan on doing it for the rest of your life, as soon as you go back to eating normally you're going to consume the same junk you did before and gain it all back again. OMAD especially, since a lot of people take it to mean they can binge a bunch of trash during their one meal and it's ok because they're still losing weight. You're not going to magically stop eating junk as soon as you get off the diet

but that's just me

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OMAD is one meal a day? yeah that does not work.

lots of vegetables, chicken breast once a day. nothing with extra sugar and no bread.

What's so hard about the calorie counting tho? Can't you just get used to it?

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colliding posted...

OMAD is one meal a day? yeah that does not work.

worked for me!

Dropped 30, have kept it off for 15 months now.

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FFDragon posted...

worked for me!

Dropped 30, have kept it off for 15 months now.

Honestly congrats, but I would assume there was also a lifestyle change in some form, whether it's diet or exercise being different before OMAD vs after. Like I said, it won't work for most people in terms of keeping the weight off. You'll definitely lose weight doing it just by being at a caloric deficit, but unless you are changing some other part of your life most will just fall back into the habit of what made them overweight in the first place.

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Epyo posted...

What's so hard about the calorie counting tho? Can't you just get used to it?

he's lazy

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Processed foods, especially those with sugar, are calorie-dense. Meat is also generally pretty calorie heavy per ounce. Veggies and fruits aren't. So if you eat more veggies and fruits to fill your stomach, you'll feel full but not have consumed as many calories.

Cutting out snacks helps a lot too

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Don't eat bread or pasta and don't drink soda.

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Generally my three rules for myself are:

Skip breakfast
Avoid high-calorie snacks
Limit sugar (ideally aiming for <30g/day if possible)

It works for me, and keeping track of sugar intake is generally easier than calories.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Fish or chicken boobs, with lots of veggies. Usually spinach.

Ulti I hate that you made me read this

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Calorie counting is bad science. You want to eat food that won't make you gain weight no matter how much you eat. Meat and veggies for every meal with just a little bit of carb (try to keep it below 21g) Get one sweet on the weekend. You can eat as much as you want and you'll go down to a healthy weight.

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I mean I just hate weighing stuff out or measuring out portions etc so I like stuff that has an absolute value to it (like soups etc)

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SantaRPidgey posted...

Calorie counting is bad science.

I disagree, but I feel like a lot of people approach it with the mentality that they're broken permanently and need to forever track calories.

From 2014 to 2015 I lost just over 100 pounds and I kicked it off with tracking calories with the pointed effort of fully understanding portion sizing and knocking myself out of habit. I needed to recognize what 1800-2000kcal actually felt like. I found that this naturally steered me toward "making the most of" what I did eat so sweets and excess carbs took the biggest hit. After a couple of months I relaxed the tracking and found that eating proper amounts was far more intuitive and it continued to get better from there. I would do a week on again with calorie counting from time to time to keep myself "calibrated" but I've now maintained the weight loss for years with no extra effort.

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Esuriat posted...

I disagree, but I feel like a lot of people approach it with the mentality that they're broken permanently and need to forever track calories.

From 2014 to 2015 I lost just over 100 pounds and I kicked it off with tracking calories with the pointed effort of fully understanding portion sizing and knocking myself out of habit. I needed to recognize what 1800-2000kcal actually felt like. I found that this naturally steered me toward "making the most of" what I did eat so sweets and excess carbs took the biggest hit. After a couple of months I relaxed the tracking and found that eating proper amounts was far more intuitive and it continued to get better from there. I would do a week on again with calorie counting from time to time to keep myself "calibrated" but I've now maintained the weight loss for years with no extra effort.

I can resonate with this some. I've been doing a keto diet and have made it a point to track my fat/carb/protein intake. After some months of recording data I feel that I have a firm grasp of what foods give me x macros. I'll likely need to calibrate from time to time like you, but it has definitely done wonders for my notion of what a portion should feel like.

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Have you tried eating with the mindset that you're only trying to lose one pound at a time?

Like it's fairly easy to lose a pound and it's easy to gain a pound.

So, if you're telling yourself that you're only trying to lose just a pound, you'll naturally bring yourself to eat less.

Well, in theory anyways. The idea is the start small first.

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Weight Watcher's approach tends to favor lean proteins and vegetables. I couldn't stick with the diet because there were lifestyle changes I couldn't adapt to long term, but while I was on it I lost a good amount of weight.

SantaRPidgey posted...

Calorie counting is bad science. You want to eat food that won't make you gain weight no matter how much you eat. Meat and veggies for every meal with just a little bit of carb (try to keep it below 21g) Get one sweet on the weekend. You can eat as much as you want and you'll go down to a healthy weight.

That's completely untrue. Calorie counting is a real thing. It's a measure of the amount of energy your body needs, how much you take in vs how much you expend. There's no such thing as being able to eat "as much as you want" without gaining weight.

What you're referring to is that if you eat things that are very filling, you will theoretically get full much quicker and therefore won't want to eat more, so in that sense, you are correct. If you had very bad issues with food though (i.e. you were eating for reasons other than hunger) you could still overeat.

You can lose weight with or without calorie counting depending on your own personal issues and what works for you, but it's still the underlying science. It's like saying to ignore your HP bar in a video game. "Don't worry about your HP bar, just try not to get hit too much" makes sense, and you can totally survive without looking at your HP if you play well, you can even hide the HP bar in the U.I. but when the enemies hit you it's still going down, and it's helpful to know the mechanics of what's happening.

Do no carbs.
Its really easy on your mental: you literally just don't consume carbohydrates
Dont wanna count? Dont have to. Portions? Whatever you want. Midnight snack? I wont tell.

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MysticBrohan posted...

Do no carbs.
Its really easy on your mental: you literally just don't consume carbohydrates

Was coming in just to post this, seriously. I was way too overweight and eating crap every day to the point it became a problem. Doctor said to cut carbs, just doing that + going to the gym more regularly, lost 80 pounds the past year. You can still do fast food, just no ketchup and drop the bun or get it in a lettuce wrap.

Carbs really are the problem, which is a shame because so many of the best foods are carbs, lol... and then you start seeing all the hidden sugars in products you didn't think about. A lot of veggies aren't really as good for you as other veggies and fruits are almost all bad. And I never used to eat avocados but love 'em now.

Though I also recommend, if not OMAD, going for a restricted eating window with two meals and no snacking. 18-6 or 16-8 are the most popular. So in my case I have lunch around 2-230pm and dinner around 730pm, that's it. I used to think I'd be dying of hunger in the morning, "breakfast is the most important meal" etc., but nah, not a problem. You can have coffee too.

But yeah, carbs.... so good, but so bad.