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meralonne 09/02/20 6:24:48 PM #53:	Romes187 posted... gotcha - I would have to ask you for evidence that violent revolution is justified at the moment. My response to that would be that black Americans have been oppressed through slavery, systematically denied the rights of other American citizens and are to this day subjected to institutional racism. This has been going on much longer than the time period in which the British were unfairly taxing American colonists. i think the case for 1776 is stronger than for 2020 on moral grounds. Why? Please explain. i think it was more uniformly believed in 1776 that violent revolution was justified Im willing to bet that the British Empire didnt agree with that in the least. Im also quite sure that the French aided the fledgling US because it weakened the British rather than out of any altruistic sense of spreading democracy. i think there were legal rules on the books which people could point to and say it justified violent revolution citation requested? otherwise we have politicians who can literally change laws we dont like. not doing it? vote for someone else. not enough people agree with you to vote in enough people to make the change you want? welcome to democracy. Thats a gross oversimplification of how laws are changed, and if this were an actual democracy, wed be talking about President Clinton instead of President Trump. Welcome to a democratic republic. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:944130756] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>gotcha - I would have to ask you for evidence that violent revolution is justified at the moment.</quote> My response to that would be that black Americans have been oppressed through slavery, systematically denied the rights of other American citizens and are to this day subjected to institutional racism. This has been going on much longer than the time period in which the British were unfairly taxing American colonists. <quote> i think the case for 1776 is stronger than for 2020 on moral grounds.</quote> Why? Please explain. <quote> i think it was more uniformly believed in 1776 that violent revolution was justified </quote>Im willing to bet that the British Empire didnt agree with that in the least. Im also quite sure that the French aided the fledgling US because it weakened the British rather than out of any altruistic sense of spreading democracy. <quote>i think there were legal rules on the books which people could point to and say it justified violent revolution</quote> citation requested? <quote> otherwise we have politicians who can literally change laws we dont like. not doing it? vote for someone else. not enough people agree with you to vote in enough people to make the change you want? welcome to democracy.</quote> Thats a gross oversimplification of how laws are changed, and if this were an actual democracy, wed be talking about President Clinton instead of President Trump. Welcome to a democratic republic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 09/02/20 6:26:29 PM #54:	emblem boy posted... No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for To add to this, Like, with these protests and riots. I'm always curious where people draw the line of what counts as too much violence. How much condemnation is needed? I don't 100% agree with the official BLM policy goals and I don't agree with the rioting and looting aspects of what's going on in various places. But I understand where it's coming from and I support the general goal of police and criminal reform. But I guess for me, i go into it knowing protests can turn ugly due to actions of only a few. So in my head, stories of people doing obviously bad shit like rioting and looting isn't really enough to some how make me forget what the goal the majority of people are pushing. Mainly because I know that I shouldn't let this obvious small group change what I know the movement is for. And unless I'm mistaken, noticeable Democrats have spoken out against this stuff months ago. I guess my main thing is: will any percentage of looting make people dismiss the whole movement? What amount of negativity can be allowed. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem boy posted [p:944130820] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted...</cite> <quote> No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for</quote> To add to this, Like, with these protests and riots. I'm always curious where people draw the line of what counts as too much violence. How much condemnation is needed? I don't 100% agree with the official BLM policy goals and I don't agree with the rioting and looting aspects of what's going on in various places. But I understand where it's coming from and I support the general goal of police and criminal reform. But I guess for me, i go into it knowing protests can turn ugly due to actions of only a few. So in my head, stories of people doing obviously bad shit like rioting and looting isn't really enough to some how make me forget what the goal the majority of people are pushing. Mainly because I know that I shouldn't let this obvious small group change what I know the movement is for. And unless I'm mistaken, noticeable Democrats have spoken out against this stuff months ago. I guess my main thing is: will any percentage of looting make people dismiss the whole movement? What amount of negativity can be allowed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 09/02/20 6:26:50 PM #55:	emblem boy posted... No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for definitely. My goal if I were in charge would be to get police reform in order where the outcome results in less people being shot and killed by the cops. that being said, knowing that violent property destruction has been proven ineffective and actually goes against what the movement wants, does that make you view those who produce the violence as misguided but helping the cause, or an obstacle to the goal of less dead bodies? i feel the latter <cite>Romes187 posted [p:944130835] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote>No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for</quote> definitely. My goal if I were in charge would be to get police reform in order where the outcome results in less people being shot and killed by the cops. that being said, knowing that violent property destruction has been proven ineffective and actually goes against what the movement wants, does that make you view those who produce the violence as misguided but helping the cause, or an obstacle to the goal of less dead bodies? i feel the latter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 09/02/20 6:29:32 PM #56:	meralonne posted... My response to that would be that black Americans have been oppressed through slavery, systematically denied the rights of other American citizens and are to this day subjected to institutional racism. This has been going on much longer than the time period in which the British were unfairly taxing American colonists. Why? Please explain. Im willing to bet that the British Empire didnt agree with that in the least. Im also quite sure that the French aided the fledgling US because it weakened the British rather than out of any altruistic sense of spreading democracy. citation requested? Thats a gross oversimplification of how laws are changed, and if this were an actual democracy, wed be talking about President Clinton instead of President Trump. Welcome to a democratic republic. republic, democracy...sure we can split hairs on the vocab I used. My point is in 1776 who do we vote in to change the laws? and your argument is institutional racism etc or systemic racism youll have to point to the racist laws. If its because people are racist within the institutions then revolution against the state will do jack shit <cite>Romes187 posted [p:944130948] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>meralonne posted... </cite> <quote>My response to that would be that black Americans have been oppressed through slavery, systematically denied the rights of other American citizens and are to this day subjected to institutional racism. This has been going on much longer than the time period in which the British were unfairly taxing American colonists. Why? Please explain. Im willing to bet that the British Empire didnt agree with that in the least. Im also quite sure that the French aided the fledgling US because it weakened the British rather than out of any altruistic sense of spreading democracy. citation requested? Thats a gross oversimplification of how laws are changed, and if this were an actual democracy, wed be talking about President Clinton instead of President Trump. Welcome to a democratic republic.</quote> republic, democracy...sure we can split hairs on the vocab I used. My point is in 1776 who do we vote in to change the laws? and your argument is institutional racism etc or systemic racism youll have to point to the racist laws. If its because people are racist within the institutions then revolution against the state will do jack shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 09/02/20 6:30:52 PM #57:	Romes187 posted... emblem boy posted... No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for definitely. My goal if I were in charge would be to get police reform in order where the outcome results in less people being shot and killed by the cops. that being said, knowing that violent property destruction has been proven ineffective and actually goes against what the movement wants, does that make you view those who produce the violence as misguided but helping the cause, or an obstacle to the goal of less dead bodies? i feel the latter It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem boy posted [p:944131003] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote> No obviously, but I try to understand why it's happening and make sure I don't catastrophize (that a word?) it and lose focus on what the majority are really protesting for</quote> definitely. My goal if I were in charge would be to get police reform in order where the outcome results in less people being shot and killed by the cops. that being said, knowing that violent property destruction has been proven ineffective and actually goes against what the movement wants, does that make you view those who produce the violence as misguided but helping the cause, or an obstacle to the goal of less dead bodies? i feel the latter</quote> It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 09/02/20 6:32:32 PM #58:	emblem boy posted... It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change. I agree with you but Ill add in the caveat that there are simply also bad actors that are using the movement to cause mayhem. Not because of any feelings of injustice at the state, but more injustice at reality itself. i think movements need leaders to be able to denounce the bad actors that attempt hijacking. and unfortunately seems like these protests are basically leaderless. No big names have bubbled up <cite>Romes187 posted [p:944131064] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote>It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change.</quote> I agree with you but Ill add in the caveat that there are simply also bad actors that are using the movement to cause mayhem. Not because of any feelings of injustice at the state, but more injustice at reality itself. i think movements need leaders to be able to denounce the bad actors that attempt hijacking. and unfortunately seems like these protests are basically leaderless. No big names have bubbled up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 09/02/20 6:37:10 PM #59:	Romes187 posted... emblem boy posted... It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change. I agree with you but Ill add in the caveat that there are simply also bad actors that are using the movement to cause mayhem. Not because of any feelings of injustice at the state, but more injustice at reality itself. i think movements need leaders to be able to denounce the bad actors that attempt hijacking. and unfortunately seems like these protests are basically leaderless. No big names have bubbled up Ya, that helps for sure. Tangent Regarding listening to leaders. It's funny, Biden seems to have been condemning the looting for months now, and while he's not the BLM leader, he has the presidential nomination. Yet, there's this apparently effective narrative that he's just now condemning the looting and rioting. Man, bad faith politics is so annoying. I need to get off twitter. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem boy posted [p:944131248] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote> emblem boy posted... </cite> <quote> It's an obstacle and it's due to anger, ego, feeling unheard, etc. I can shout from the rooftop about how what they're doing is bad and hopefully some listen and change. </quote> I agree with you but Ill add in the caveat that there are simply also bad actors that are using the movement to cause mayhem. Not because of any feelings of injustice at the state, but more injustice at reality itself. i think movements need leaders to be able to denounce the bad actors that attempt hijacking. and unfortunately seems like these protests are basically leaderless. No big names have bubbled up</quote> Ya, that helps for sure. Tangent Regarding listening to leaders. It's funny, Biden seems to have been condemning the looting for months now, and while he's not the BLM leader, he has the presidential nomination. Yet, there's this apparently effective narrative that he's just now condemning the looting and rioting. Man, bad faith politics is so annoying. I need to get off twitter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/02/20 6:39:37 PM #60:	Honestly if cops just stop shooting black people there won't be any riots or looting. They should accept personal responsibility and help make their communities safer. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:944131343] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Honestly if cops just stop shooting black people there won't be any riots or looting. They should accept personal responsibility and help make their communities safer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 09/02/20 6:44:40 PM #61:	What does support property destruction mean? --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl ^_^ https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:944131543] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>What does support property destruction mean? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/02/20 6:45:18 PM #62:	AlisLandale posted... What does support property destruction mean? it means giant monsters iirc --- There won't be any more trouble, you'll be dragged from the rubble when the lights come on <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:944131561] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted... </cite> <quote>What does support property destruction mean?</quote>it means giant monsters iirc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 09/02/20 6:46:37 PM #63:	viewmaster_pi posted... it means giant monsters iirc aw hell yeah. Get fucked, Sears Tower this is Godzilla country now --- #1 Kaiju Fangirl ^_^ https://imgur.com/mptS9Qj <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:944131613] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>it means giant monsters iirc</quote> aw hell yeah. Get fucked, Sears Tower this is Godzilla country now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 09/02/20 6:46:55 PM #64:	ZMythos posted... Honestly if cops just stop shooting black people there won't be any riots or looting. They should accept personal responsibility and help make their communities safer. Ding ding ding. Riots and looting is the inevitable response to oppression. Arguments about whether it's a useful tactic miss the point; it's not planned out. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:944131622] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly if cops just stop shooting black people there won't be any riots or looting. They should accept personal responsibility and help make their communities safer. </quote> Ding ding ding. Riots and looting is the inevitable response to oppression. Arguments about whether it's a useful tactic miss the point; it's not planned out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/02/20 6:47:34 PM #65:	i hope kraken appears in the new godzilla movies at some point --- There won't be any more trouble, you'll be dragged from the rubble when the lights come on <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:944131646] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>i hope kraken appears in the new godzilla movies at some point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 09/02/20 6:47:41 PM #66:	Romes187 posted... republic, democracy...sure we can split hairs on the vocab I used. My point is in 1776 who do we vote in to change the laws? The form of government determines whether or not action against that government is justified? What if they had worked with the British government to work out a peaceful solution? Sure, they tried... so why didnt they keep trying? I dont remember Canada starting a war with the British, and theyre autonomous. and your argument is institutional racism etc or systemic racism youll have to point to the racist laws. If its because people are racist within the institutions then revolution against the state will do jack shit You must be fucking kidding me. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:944131649] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>republic, democracy...sure we can split hairs on the vocab I used. My point is in 1776 who do we vote in to change the laws?</quote> The form of government determines whether or not action against that government is justified? What if they had worked with the British government to work out a peaceful solution? Sure, they tried... so why didnt they keep trying? I dont remember Canada starting a war with the British, and theyre autonomous. <quote>and your argument is institutional racism etc or systemic racism youll have to point to the racist laws. If its because people are racist within the institutions then revolution against the state will do jack shit</quote> You must be fucking kidding me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 09/02/20 6:51:34 PM #67:	I neither support nor condemn them. As a collective society we have pushed these people to the breaking point, so I can empathize with their frustration. <cite>Lysandear posted [p:944131769] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>I neither support nor condemn them. As a collective society we have pushed these people to the breaking point, so I can empathize with their frustration. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fire_bolt 09/02/20 6:52:47 PM #68:	Romes187 posted... sure - think long and hard about why this is something youd say in 11th grade and feel like youre really smart, but then later you realize its a dumb thing to say. No one in a position of power has ever, in the history of the world, chosen to weaken their power to elevate the people they hold power over. They have always had to be forced. The people in control will not let you lawfully work to change the world in ways that are to their detriment. I would rather some property get destroyed as the current situation devolve into an out-and-out civil war. --- Please, call me Bolt <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:944131817] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted...</cite> <quote> sure - think long and hard about why this is something youd say in 11th grade and feel like youre really smart, but then later you realize its a dumb thing to say. </quote> No one in a position of power has ever, in the history of the world, chosen to weaken their power to elevate the people they hold power over. They have always had to be forced. The people in control will not let you lawfully work to change the world in ways that are to their detriment. I would rather some property get destroyed as the current situation devolve into an out-and-out civil war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/02/20 6:58:48 PM #69:	Considering people care more about property than they do people being murdered. Destroying property seems like a no brainer solution. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:944132037] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Considering people care more about property than they do people being murdered. Destroying property seems like a no brainer solution. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitehawk1986 09/02/20 7:01:56 PM #70:	No. And anyone who does should be prosecuted. --- "Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear." <cite>whitehawk1986 posted [p:944132142] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>No. And anyone who does should be prosecuted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 09/02/20 7:06:57 PM #71:	Tmaster148 posted... Considering people care more about property than they do people being murdered. Destroying property seems like a no brainer solution. second half does not logically follow the first half --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:944132335] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>Considering people care more about property than they do people being murdered. Destroying property seems like a no brainer solution.</quote> second half does not logically follow the first half </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/02/20 7:12:54 PM #72:	I don't really care that much. Like, its bad, but the rioting and looting will stop when the thing people are rioting and looting about/around is stopped, and they are in the right to protest it, so the solution is so obvious its not really worth talking about. Its not usually brought up in good faith, either. I don't think its useful in any inate sense, but no amount of virtue signaling on my part will have much effect on whether or not its done. --- Asking for a friend, who is a tree <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:944132589] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>I don't really care that much. Like, its bad, but the rioting and looting will stop when the thing people are rioting and looting about/around is stopped, and they are in the right to protest it, so the solution is so obvious its not really worth talking about. Its not usually brought up in good faith, either. I don't think its useful in any inate sense, but no amount of virtue signaling on my part will have much effect on whether or not its done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/02/20 7:14:27 PM #73:	g980 posted... second half does not logically follow the first half Sorry simple logic is too complicated for you. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:944132650] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>second half does not logically follow the first half</quote> Sorry simple logic is too complicated for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 09/02/20 7:15:15 PM #74:	No, lock them all away and throw away the key. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:944132688] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>No, lock them all away and throw away the key. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tm315 09/02/20 7:16:53 PM #75:	I mean, I kinda smile when I see a statue of a racist get torn down. But I hate to see the destruction of small businesses, especially in poorer communities. <cite>tm315 posted [p:944132749] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>I mean, I kinda smile when I see a statue of a racist get torn down. But I hate to see the destruction of small businesses, especially in poorer communities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 09/02/20 7:43:00 PM #76:	Lots of far left people in this topic advocating for violence and destruction. It's almost at the level of domestic terrorism. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:944133700] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Lots of far left people in this topic advocating for violence and destruction. It's almost at the level of domestic terrorism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wasssup Now 09/02/20 7:54:13 PM #77:	g980 posted... dont try to justify violence with memes please Here is an actual article https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/ I just got owned <cite>Wasssup Now posted [p:944134077] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>g980 posted... </cite> <quote>dont try to justify violence with memes please Here is an actual article https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/</quote> I just got owned </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/02/20 7:55:50 PM #78:	Depends on what it is - statues are fine.. monuments are fair game.. public institutions are a-ok and so are commercial retailers like Macy's or the Gucci store Storeowners that own a bodega though? No. The little guys don't deserve that sort of burden. <cite>RedJackson posted [p:944134134] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Depends on what it is - statues are fine.. monuments are fair game.. public institutions are a-ok and so are commercial retailers like Macy's or the Gucci store Storeowners that own a bodega though? No. The little guys don't deserve that sort of burden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 09/02/20 8:20:50 PM #80:	ColdOne666 posted... It's almost at the level of domestic terrorism. No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:944135108] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>ColdOne666 posted... </cite> <quote>It's almost at the level of domestic terrorism.</quote>No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/02/20 8:38:09 PM #81:	ZMythos posted... No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist. <cite>RedJackson posted [p:944135712] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ohiostate124 09/02/20 8:55:36 PM #82:	ZMythos posted... No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist. Defending yourself does not make you a terrorist <cite>ohiostate124 posted [p:944136269] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>No you've got it backwards. Kyle Rittenhouse was an alt-right terrorist.</quote>Defending yourself does not make you a terrorist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
muchdran 09/02/20 9:01:22 PM #83:	AceBoogie posted... Remember when Kaepernick took a knee and people was protesting peacefully but that wasnt good enough because MuH fLaG? This is the result you get I totally forgot he sucked , until he was a backup qb who couldn't sign a contract. <cite>muchdran posted [p:944136494] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>AceBoogie posted... </cite> <quote>Remember when Kaepernick took a knee and people was protesting peacefully but that wasnt good enough because MuH fLaG? This is the result you get</quote>I totally forgot he sucked , until he was a backup qb who couldn't sign a contract. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/02/20 9:10:53 PM #84:	ohiostate124 posted... Defending yourself does not make you a terrorist Correct. But instigating a confrontation so you can pretend to justify firing your illegal big boy gun makes you a terrorist --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:944136856] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>ohiostate124 posted... </cite> <quote>Defending yourself does not make you a terrorist</quote>Correct. But instigating a confrontation so you can pretend to justify firing your illegal big boy gun makes you a terrorist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 09/02/20 9:13:43 PM #85:	fire_bolt posted... Its almost like this country was literally founded on violent protests or something, dating all the way back to the Boston Tea Party. Y'all ain't ready for that conversation tho Except the Botson Tea Party wasn't a violent protest. They didn't burn anything to the ground. They didn't steal stuff for themselves that wasn't theirs. They went onto the ship got out the tea from the hold and threw it into the harbor. Thats it. The only thing that was destroyed, besides the tea obviously, was the lock to the hold they had to break.....which they then replaced. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:944136960] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>fire_bolt posted... </cite> <quote>Its almost like this country was literally founded on violent protests or something, dating all the way back to the Boston Tea Party. Y'all ain't ready for that conversation tho</quote> Except the Botson Tea Party wasn't a violent protest. They didn't burn anything to the ground. They didn't steal stuff for themselves that wasn't theirs. They went onto the ship got out the tea from the hold and threw it into the harbor. Thats it. The only thing that was destroyed, besides the tea obviously, was the lock to the hold they had to break.....which they then replaced. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/02/20 9:21:29 PM #86:	Gamerguymass posted... Except the Botson Tea Party wasn't a violent protest. They didn't burn anything to the ground. They didn't steal stuff for themselves that wasn't theirs. They went onto the ship got out the tea from the hold and threw it into the harbor. Thats it. The only thing that was destroyed, besides the tea obviously, was the lock to the hold they had to break.....which they then replaced. You need to open a history book. The Tea Party sparked many more protests that destroyed/looted various businesses and ships that weren't just owned by the British. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:944137253] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Gamerguymass posted... </cite> <quote> Except the Botson Tea Party wasn't a violent protest. They didn't burn anything to the ground. They didn't steal stuff for themselves that wasn't theirs. They went onto the ship got out the tea from the hold and threw it into the harbor. Thats it. The only thing that was destroyed, besides the tea obviously, was the lock to the hold they had to break.....which they then replaced.</quote>You need to open a history book. The Tea Party sparked many more protests that destroyed/looted various businesses and ships that weren't just owned by the British. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfThaJedi 09/02/20 9:23:19 PM #87:	muchdran posted... I totally forgot he sucked , until he was a backup qb who couldn't sign a contract. That has nothing to do with what was said tho --- https://vine.co/v/OnxDJZlq5nF #1 RWBY Superfan <cite>ReturnOfThaJedi posted [p:944137326] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>muchdran posted... </cite> <quote>I totally forgot he sucked , until he was a backup qb who couldn't sign a contract.</quote>That has nothing to do with what was said tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 09/02/20 9:44:07 PM #88:	Antifar posted... Ding ding ding. Riots and looting is the inevitable response to oppression. Arguments about whether it's a useful tactic miss the point; it's not planned out. Is that why they are protestinf in Portland and not Baltimore? --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:944138218] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Ding ding ding. Riots and looting is the inevitable response to oppression. Arguments about whether it's a useful tactic miss the point; it's not planned out.</quote>Is that why they are protestinf in Portland and not Baltimore? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 09/02/20 9:47:07 PM #89:	There was looting and riots in Baltimore a few years ago and now the city is a thriving utopia because of it. --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:944138352] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>There was looting and riots in Baltimore a few years ago and now the city is a thriving utopia because of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 09/02/20 10:25:16 PM #90:	Hell fucking no. They just went after a bunch of people's property that had nothing to do with their issue. That's not righteous protest, that's just them being shitty human beings. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:944139811] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Hell fucking no. They just went after a bunch of people's property that had nothing to do with their issue. That's not righteous protest, that's just them being shitty human beings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhatsUpMyGuy 09/02/20 10:29:09 PM #91:	AceBoogie posted... Remember when Kaepernick took a knee and people was protesting peacefully but that wasnt good enough because MuH fLaG? This is the result you get <cite>WhatsUpMyGuy posted [p:944139957] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>AceBoogie posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when Kaepernick took a knee and people was protesting peacefully but that wasnt good enough because MuH fLaG? This is the result you get </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bnui_ransder 09/02/20 10:43:34 PM #92:	No --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T <cite>bnui_ransder posted [p:944140422] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CloudThunder 09/02/20 11:11:02 PM #93:	americans arent intelligent enough to differentiate looters and hoodlums from protesters.the people looting and destroying property need to be severely punished as theres no place for that,the protesters however have a right to be protesting,just as you all let it slide when the klan does it. <cite>CloudThunder posted [p:944141271] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>americans arent intelligent enough to differentiate looters and hoodlums from protesters.the people looting and destroying property need to be severely punished as theres no place for that,the protesters however have a right to be protesting,just as you all let it slide when the klan does it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 09/02/20 11:13:56 PM #94:	Looting is reparations and should be legal. --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:944141370] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Looting is reparations and should be legal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 09/03/20 2:13:02 AM #95:	AlephZero posted... Looting is reparations and should be legal. I'm bumping this topic so everyone can see this post and then mark, tag and move on. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:944145942] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>AlephZero posted... </cite> <quote>Looting is reparations and should be legal.</quote> I'm bumping this topic so everyone can see this post and then mark, tag and move on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pkmas1702 09/03/20 2:14:19 AM #96:	AlephZero posted... Looting is reparations and should be legal. Looting your house and burning your house should be legal too :) --- I'm gonna stand outside. If anyone asks, I'm outstanding. <cite>Pkmas1702 posted [p:944145957] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>AlephZero posted... </cite> <quote>Looting is reparations and should be legal.</quote>Looting your house and burning your house should be legal too :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MFBKBass5 09/03/20 6:42:36 AM #97:	Romes187 posted... did you just run out of brain juice and decide to copy what I posted to you? Wtf haha i seriously wanna know what your life situation is to make you justify in your head, doing something you believe is morally wrong (unless bad doesnt mean wrong to you?) is it that youre unemployed with no job prospects and you feel treating everything down is your only hope? Im seriously curious because its so far removed from my thought process is your only strategy to insult users on CE while making yourself look like an ass by posting a bunch of rambles and rants? if so youre doing a great job. Keep it up Trumper --- !!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/DzJSPWA <cite>MFBKBass5 posted [p:944149427] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>did you just run out of brain juice and decide to copy what I posted to you? Wtf haha i seriously wanna know what your life situation is to make you justify in your head, doing something you believe is morally wrong (unless bad doesnt mean wrong to you?) is it that youre unemployed with no job prospects and you feel treating everything down is your only hope? Im seriously curious because its so far removed from my thought process</quote> is your only strategy to insult users on CE while making yourself look like an ass by posting a bunch of rambles and rants? if so youre doing a great job. Keep it up Trumper </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/03/20 6:45:18 AM #98:	"It is wrong to harm innocent people just because you're angry and have opinions" supports anti-COVID jackasses spreading a contagious disease for political reasons --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:944149474] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>"It is wrong to harm innocent people just because you're angry and have opinions" supports anti-COVID jackasses spreading a contagious disease for political reasons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 09/03/20 6:54:02 AM #99:	MFBKBass5 posted... I support destruction of property if it means we finally people from stop destroying black men and womens bodies and lives. Are you still a teacher? Would you actually teach students that you and they should support someone from out of town burning down your local school as a form of protest, even though you know there is the risk of some students and staff dying and, at the very least, it seriously disrupts the education process and a lot of peoples jobs? --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:944149616] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>I support destruction of property if it means we finally people from stop destroying black men and womens bodies and lives.</quote> Are you still a teacher? Would you actually teach students that you and they should support someone from out of town burning down your local school as a form of protest, even though you know there is the risk of some students and staff dying and, at the very least, it seriously disrupts the education process and a lot of peoples jobs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romes187 09/03/20 9:39:51 AM #100:	MFBKBass5 posted... Keep it up Trumper now youre just making things up. Wish I could read minds like you hockeybub89 posted... supports anti-COVID jackasses spreading a contagious disease for political reasons* now youre just making things up. I wish I could read minds like you lmao this board sometimes. Smh <cite>Romes187 posted [p:944152915] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>MFBKBass5 posted... </cite> <quote>Keep it up Trumper</quote> now youre just making things up. Wish I could read minds like you hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>supports anti-COVID jackasses spreading a contagious disease for political reasons*</quote> now youre just making things up. I wish I could read minds like you lmao this board sometimes. Smh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bnui_ransder 09/03/20 11:12:20 AM #101:	Romes187 posted... now youre just making things up. I wish I could read minds like you lmao this board sometimes. Smh But if we don't agree with them 110% we are the enemy! That allows them to make up lies and yell them at us --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T <cite>bnui_ransder posted [p:944156668] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>Romes187 posted... </cite> <quote>now youre just making things up. I wish I could read minds like you lmao this board sometimes. Smh</quote>But if we don't agree with them 110% we are the enemy! That allows them to make up lies and yell them at us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 09/03/20 11:13:19 AM #102:	I don't support it, but I do understand it. --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:944156709] in Do you sup... [t:78949621]...</cite> <quote>I don't support it, but I do understand it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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