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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:00:55 PM
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They did my boy dirty.

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The Trent
09/02/20 12:02:02 PM
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racism in star wars!

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Lysandear
09/02/20 12:02:20 PM
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Yeah Finn was my favorite in The Force Awakens. That might be part of why TLJ was just a disaster for me. I was really looking forward to seeing more of him, then he didn't do anything in TLJ and was reduced to comedic sidekick. Dumb. Didn't watch Rise
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MC_BatCommander
09/02/20 12:02:47 PM
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He's right, his character in TFA was great and he got completely shafted in TLJ. Similar thing happened to Oscar Isaac imo

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SSJGrimReaper
09/02/20 12:02:51 PM
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they really turned him to the comic relief black best friend trope

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Master_Bass
09/02/20 12:03:07 PM
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Yeah, Finn was such a wasted character. I really wish they would have done him justice.

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Blightzkrieg
09/02/20 12:03:07 PM
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Disney is probably gonna black list him over this (if they haven't already) which is a shame.

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ThunderTrain
09/02/20 12:04:06 PM
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Should've made him a Jedi also instead of making Rey a Mary Sue.

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StarDestroyer
09/02/20 12:04:46 PM
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Finn was the best part of TFA. TC is correct in that they did him dirty.
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The Trent
09/02/20 12:05:20 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
Should've made him a Jedi also instead of making Rey a Mary Sue.

big time

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DarkChozoGhost
09/02/20 12:05:22 PM
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China's fault really

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AlephZero
09/02/20 12:06:03 PM
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JJ Abrams is alt right. It's no coincidence that the minority characters fell out of favor.

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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:06:35 PM
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Disney needs to stop acting like they actually care about diversity.

Let us not forget this bullshit


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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:09:23 PM
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I'm also going to say, Finn had the most potential of any of the new characters in this new trilogy, and they just butchered him outright. How do you build most of your marketing around this man for the first bit of promotional material and then just go, "sike, it's really Rey who's more important."

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The Trent
09/02/20 12:10:21 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Disney needs to stop acting like they actually care about diversity.

Let us not forget this bullshit

i'd argue that this is more about marketing than any desire to avoid diversity

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archedsoul
09/02/20 12:10:51 PM
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Here's the interview for those interested btw. Now sure why TC didn't link it. It's very interesting.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/culture/article/john-boyega-interview-2020

Definitely sounds like he's pissed at RJ more than anything.

Everybody needs to leave my boy alone. He wasnt even supposed to come back and try to save your shit

JJ did hype him up and I was definitely expecting something way more than what we got.


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The Trent
09/02/20 12:11:10 PM
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i mean they could've just cast finn as a white guy in the first place?

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ohiostate124
09/02/20 12:11:11 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Disney needs to stop acting like they actually care about diversity.

Let us not forget this bullshit
Gotta bend the knee to China.
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PoundGarden
09/02/20 12:11:47 PM
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He's right. Finn could be completely removed from the story andbasiclly nothing changes, to me he felt like the token black guy, there just to avoid the "so there's only white people in space" comments. Which is a shame because the character had great potential they just did fuck all with him. Is he a pilot? A Jedi in training? Rebel? Quitter? Pick a lane and stick with it FFS
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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:13:28 PM
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The Trent posted...
i'd argue that this is more about marketing than any desire to avoid diversity
More like Disney bowing and kowtowing to China than anything else.

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Master_Bass
09/02/20 12:13:41 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Disney needs to stop acting like they actually care about diversity.

Let us not forget this bullshit
Lmao, I was going to say that's racist against Wookies since they removed Chewbacca. I then realized the issue is that they made Finn smaller and less prominent.

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Kuuko
09/02/20 12:13:52 PM
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I think his character was all over the place in TFA to begin with. JJ Abrams has said he went through tons of script re-writes before landing where TFA landed. So maybe in some earlier script Finn had some cohesion. But in the final movie we end up with a Finn who
  • leaves the Stormtroopers because after being trained to kill all his life he finds on his first real mission that he doesn't want to kill, but also he doesn't really seem to care about killing other Stormtroopers at all 15 minutes after he leaves them
  • apparently was mostly just a janitor anyway
  • throws what might be his main antagonist Phasma into a trash can, kind of ruining whatever tension the two characters might have had later. Really ruined any potential for Phasma's character by extension. Their fight in TLJ, even the extended deleted scenes version, is lessened I think because of the trash can thing in TFA.
  • almost got a cool lightsaber moment (which all the trailers and even the official movie poster show off), but after one embarrassing scene using the lightsaber it goes back to Rey and Finn never touches one again
  • clearly has some sort of romantic feeling for Rey, which obviously gets overshadowed by Rey / Kylo tension instead


It was a mess from the beginning and I dislike TLJ but I can see it tried to make his character something more coherent with a more obvious love interest with Rose, story arc (that still ultimately goes nowhere), and some sort of resolution with Phasma. RoS deserves blame for completely throwing its hands in the air and doing absolutely nothing with Finn at all but it would've been a shoddy ending for the character one way or another.

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The Trent
09/02/20 12:14:10 PM
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okay so then we agree about it not being evidence of disney not caring about diversity and more about just trying to maximize profit/sales

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I Like Toast
09/02/20 12:15:20 PM
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so we're going to ignore how they had no plan for the white characters not named rey and kylo to make this about racism and not about disney's lack of a plan?

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littlebro07
09/02/20 12:15:27 PM
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The ST is full of wasted potential.

The only consistently good thing about the trilogy was Kylo Ren's story. Then they fucking blew it by not making him the "Skywalker" referred to in "Rise of Skywalker"

Also the deleted/alternate scene from TLJ of Finn vs Phasma was so much fucking better than what we got IMO

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AvantgardeAClue
09/02/20 12:16:24 PM
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I dunno if Poe or Finn got shafted worse

The former became a butt monkey who was rarely right about anything in TLJ/TROS while the latter is a straight up decoy protagonist

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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:16:54 PM
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The Trent posted...
okay so then we agree about it not being evidence of disney not caring about diversity and more about just trying to maximize profit/sales
Those two things go hand and hand when it comes into China. What other purpose would they have to reduce the size of one of their leads on a poster?

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BatmanWTtP
09/02/20 12:17:48 PM
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He's absolutely right. He got sidelined in TLJ with the shitty casino plot and then lost the Rey Bowl to her abusive stalker BF. His story was set up perfectly in TFA and then they did nothing with him. Same with Poe.

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Lysandear
09/02/20 12:18:02 PM
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Man remember when Finn had a lightsaber fight with wounded Kylo? He didn't even hesitate, just grabbed that lightsaber and fought like a machine. Was really genuinely looking forward to seeing Finn turn into more of a badass

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
09/02/20 12:20:23 PM
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Kuuko posted...
after one embarrassing scene using the lightsaber
This was probably my favorite scene in the trilogy
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Veggeta_MAX
09/02/20 12:22:21 PM
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Daisy can't find work, John was shafted out of Star Wars... what next?

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DrizztLink
09/02/20 12:23:01 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Daisy can't find work, John was shafted out of Star Wars... what next?
Chewbacca starts balding

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Solar_Crimson
09/02/20 12:30:30 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Daisy can't find work
How is she not able to find work?

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Veggeta_MAX
09/02/20 12:31:01 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
How is she not able to find work?
I dunno but here's the article

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8675239/English-actress-Daisy-Ridley-reveals-struggled-work-final-Star-Wars-film.html?ocid=uxbndlbing

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littlebro07
09/02/20 12:31:24 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Daisy can't find work, John was shafted out of Star Wars... what next?

Is Oscar doing alright?

IIRC he did a voiceover in the credits scene of Into the Spider-Verse but idk what else he's done recently

Edit: looks like he's in Dune

And I didn't realize he voices Gomez in the animated Addams Family

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InhumaneRaider
09/02/20 12:32:07 PM
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Isn't Daisy in that new game with Mccavoy and Dafoe? I swear I saw her name pop up.

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InfinityMonster
09/02/20 12:40:43 PM
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Sounds like the cast didn't really like Rian Johnson and TLJ.

Boyega basically just called it shit. Hamill seemed pretty salty about it when it was first released and Daisy Ridley started crying with joy when she heard JJ Abrams was gonna return for TRoS.

Doubt Driver and Isaac would ever open up about these things but wouldn't be surprised if they felt similar.

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ThunderTrain
09/02/20 12:42:18 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Sounds like the cast didn't really like Rian Johnson and TLJ.

Boyega basically just called it shit. Hamill seemed pretty salty about it when it was first released and Daisy Ridley started crying with joy when she heard JJ Abrams was gonna return for TRoS.

Doubt Driver and Isaac would ever open up about these things but wouldn't be surprised if they felt similar.

Its funny that the entire cast trashes the movie but there are still defenders of it.

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Returning_CEmen
09/02/20 12:43:06 PM
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Give him some nuance
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Veggeta_MAX
09/02/20 12:43:09 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
Its funny that the entire cast trashes the movie but there are still defenders of it.
But that won't stop you from supporting the next movies.

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Lysandear
09/02/20 12:43:21 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
Its funny that the entire cast trashes the movie but there are still defenders of it.
there are tons of people here, on this board, who say it's the best star wars movie
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DeadBankerDream
09/02/20 12:43:22 PM
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How didn't they know what to do with Kelly Marie Tran?

I don't like her character, but I never got the impression that they were just fumbling with what to do with her. Assuming he's talking about The Last Jedi, which is the impression I get from the snippet. Revenge of the Sith or whatever the last movie was called is another story.
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Ilishe
09/02/20 12:44:56 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Disney needs to stop acting like they actually care about diversity.

Let us not forget this bullshit

I can't fault them for putting Han FUCKING Solo center stage

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ThunderTrain
09/02/20 12:45:10 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
But that won't stop you from supporting the next movies.

What does Rian Johnson have to do with future Star Wars movies?

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CruelBuffalo
09/02/20 12:46:28 PM
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Alt right nerds. He definitely isnt on your side with Miss Tran. Said she should have been given a bigger role. And I agree.
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Lysandear
09/02/20 12:47:34 PM
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FTR I had no issue with Rose aside from her one dumb line. Unless the casino thing counts as an issue with Rose, I guess
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DarthAragorn
09/02/20 12:53:34 PM
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Rose was fine, not great but fine, as a character, the problem was her entire plot was fucking pointless

Also yeah I agree with the general sentiment in this topic that Finn was the best part of TFA and I expected him to be awesome in TLJ. And then we got that...
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RedJackson
09/02/20 12:55:41 PM
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Ilishe posted...
I can't fault them for putting Han FUCKING Solo center stage

Me neither, it's not indicative of anything
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MaxEffingBemis
09/02/20 12:56:24 PM
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I mean sure Poe also has shit development but at the end he becomes general of the whole fucking rebel army whereas nothing at all happens with Finn. At all.

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