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Johnbobb
08/28/20 10:19:00 PM
#1:


just thought I'd let you guys know since I've waited MY ENTIRE GODDAMN LIFE FOR IT

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UshiromiyaEva
08/28/20 10:30:34 PM
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I adored New Mutants volumes 3 and 4, but haven't had a lot of attachment to the franchise outside of those runs. I imagine the connection here is pretty tenuous?

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Snake5555555555
08/28/20 10:36:18 PM
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More like The Old Mutants

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 10:40:16 PM
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really the film was mostly just about establishing the characters and themes moreso than following a specific plot, at least until like the last half an hour. Think last year's Glass but scarier and also a better superhero movie

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redrocket
08/28/20 10:42:31 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
really the film was mostly just about establishing the characters and themes moreso than following a specific plot, at least until like the last half an hour. Think last year's Glass but scarier and also a better superhero movie

Is there a >0% chance that any of this will be followed up on?

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 10:51:43 PM
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redrocket posted...
Is there a >0% chance that any of this will be followed up on?
no

which is a shame because there was a plan for a potential sequel (apparently Warlock was actually planned for this movie but was pushed off to be a main part of the potential sequel due to the budget his character would require) but after the Disney purchase it's absolutely not happening

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/28/20 10:55:51 PM
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Why is everyone saying this is the worst movie in the franchise then?

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HanOfTheNekos
08/28/20 10:57:32 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Why is everyone saying this is the worst movie in the franchise then?
Are you?

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Snake5555555555
08/28/20 11:01:34 PM
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At the very least surely's it's better than Dark Phoenix.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/28/20 11:07:44 PM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Are you?
I haven't seen it, but I haven't seen a single good thing about it. I'm asking an honest questions since it's being memed on for how bad people think it is.

I'd be thrilled if it were good honestly since I like a lot of the characters there. Lol

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 11:11:58 PM
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It is nowhere near the worst of the franchise

It's leagues ahead of Dark Phoenix and Origins. Considerably better than Apocalypse, The Wolverine and The Last Stand.

It's hard for me to put it much higher because I fucking love X-Men (even Last Stand). This is much lower budget than most superhero movies and the production issues are kind of obvious (the worst thing was just how rushed it felt at times to get it down to about 90 minutes when it could've used an extra like 20 minutes at least)

I'd say

Logan
Days of Future Past
X2
Deadpool
First Class
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Deadpool 2
X-Men (it's been a while since I saw it though)
The New Mutants
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Apocalypse
The Last Stand
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The Wolverine
Origins: Wolverine
Dark Phoenix

I'd say it's on par with the original X-Men as far as I can remember, and it's definitely a good movie overall!

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UshiromiyaEva
08/28/20 11:14:50 PM
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I mean it's kind of a moot point because you couldn't pay me to go to a theater right now. My roomate was interested in streaming it, and when I told him we'd have to actual go to the NCG he straight up laughed. Not sure what they were thinking with that.

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 11:14:55 PM
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Don't get me wrong. Some of it is rough. Some stilted dialogue, some surprisingly fast character changes, some stuff that just straight up seems like it was missing to the point I have to assume stuff was cut for Disney to get it down to a PG-13

Probably not something that would convince people who didn't care for the concept. Definitely satisfying as someone who loves the concept.

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 11:16:51 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I mean it's kind of a moot point because you couldn't pay me to go to a theater right now. My roomate was interested in streaming it, and when I told him we'd have to actual go to the NCG he straight up laughed. Not sure what they were thinking with that.
for the record there was literally 2 people in the theater aside from me and my girlfriend. They were several rows away and wearing masks, as were all the staff. You can't buy seats next to anyone else and I believe there's a capacity limit in place

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red13n
08/28/20 11:17:06 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
. Not sure what they were thinking with that.

I've been hearing that there was some sort of contractual obligation with the acquisition that led to this, but this could just be a rumor.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/28/20 11:17:10 PM
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I mean I take your word for it more than folks on Twitter who frankly were ready to hate on it for years and would trash it regardless of quality unless it was a masterpiece.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/28/20 11:21:08 PM
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The movie is getting absolute obliterated on both the critic and audience side of things, but you never know with this thinf. I often don't line up with others on superhero stuff. I finally got around to actually watching Birds of Prey two nights ago and thought it sucked, but I remember that getting praised as an underappreciated gem.

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 11:29:04 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I mean I take your word for it more than folks on Twitter who frankly were ready to hate on it for years and would trash it regardless of quality unless it was a masterpiece.
Keep fully in mind, I'm probably on the exact opposite end of the spectrum. This was my most anticipated movie of... fuck, was it 2017? And every year since. I'm a huge X-Men film franchise fan and desperately wanted this to be as good as possible, despite being worried after how awful Dark Phoenix was

It's a very flawed movie that is also very enjoyable

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Johnbobb
08/28/20 11:30:35 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
The movie is getting absolute obliterated on both the critic and audience side of things, but you never know with this thinf. I often don't line up with others on superhero stuff. I finally got around to actually watching Birds of Prey two nights ago and thought it sucked, but I remember that getting praised as an underappreciated gem.
For what it's worth I was also not a big Birds of Prey fan. Wouldn't say it sucked but it also didn't grab me much beyond Huntress being excellent

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UshiromiyaEva
08/28/20 11:50:20 PM
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Huntress was pretty good for her limited time in the movie.

I don't think I've ever disliked a casting in a superhero movie more than Rozie Perez as Montoya. It's one of the things I went in not actually knowing anything about, and it took maybe a minute into her first scene before I just completely couldn't take it.

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Murphiroth
08/28/20 11:52:10 PM
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I don't think I'll ever be able to bring myself to watch BoP due to what they did with Cass.

New Mutants I'm interested in to see what Frankenstein monster it's become after director's original vision of horror movie > Fox going no no less of that more generic Fox Men movie > disney takeover > disney pushing it back towards horror.

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Djungelurban
08/29/20 1:53:42 AM
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The fact that The Last Stand isn't at the very bottom of your rankings invalidates any and all further opinions you may have.
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scarletspeed7
08/29/20 2:01:03 AM
#23:


Djungelurban posted...
The fact that The Last Stand isn't at the very bottom of your rankings invalidates any and all further opinions you may have.
The fact that you don't have Dark Phoenix at the bottom invalidates yours.

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Djungelurban
08/29/20 2:27:45 AM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
The fact that you don't have Dark Phoenix at the bottom invalidates yours.
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scarletspeed7
08/29/20 2:37:02 AM
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And yet Dark Phoenix disproves that

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redrocket
08/29/20 2:55:37 AM
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Origins: Wolverine is also worse than Last Stand and its not close.

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Mega Mana
08/29/20 5:11:15 AM
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It's sad.

The New Mutants has been my most hyped movie for three years, and I'm just not... I dunno. I don't wanna go see it. Just the theater stuff. I know I'll enjoy the hell out of the movie, but fuck.

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Johnbobb
08/29/20 7:27:16 AM
#28:


The Last Stand > Dark Phoenix pretty easily

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StifledSilence
08/29/20 7:52:19 AM
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Youre all wrong. Origins Wolverine is the bottom of the barrel by a mile.

But yeah, Im eager to see New Mutants later when it gets the regular home release.

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Johnbobb
08/29/20 6:50:44 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ZY-YFdkFY

holy shit the IGN review kinda got it right. I would've scored it higher, but almost all their points are accurate

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Mega Mana
08/29/20 10:07:20 PM
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That's a solid review.

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