Current Events > Would an icicle be the perfect murder weapon?

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Think about it: you stab someone in the neck, they bleed out. The icicle melts, the water evaporates, no murder weapon at the scene. No fingerprints.

Ever try to stab anything with a icicle?

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Middle hope posted...

Ever try to stab anything with a icicle?

I mean I understand that certain icicles could be brittle, but sometimes they're pretty tough.

Just smash a block of ice over their head

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Just make a gun out of ice

And ice bullets

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I've never handled one before, but I thought they were very brittle. I can't imagine they're very good stabbing weapons.

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I remember some movie where an assassin used an ice bullet >_>

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I think you would be better off using a wooden stake and tossing it in a fire

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I think this was an Encyclopedia Brown case. Dude smuggled an icicle into a sauna with a thermos or something stupid.

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Just shape the ice into a cyanide pill.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Just shape the ice into a cyanide pill.

You can't stab anything with a pill. Shape the cyanide into an icicle first.

Make a chainsaw out of ice

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Shotgunnova posted...

I think this was an Encyclopedia Brown case. Dude smuggled an icicle into a sauna with a thermos or something stupid.

Since when is he investigating murders?

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Make someone eat icicles until they die, then it'll melt in their stomach. The perfect crime!

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Pretty sure I've seen a movie or read a book where an icicle was the murder weapon
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Pretty sure I've seen a movie or read a book where an icicle was the murder weapon

Same... what was it?? Its gonna bother me now. Pretty sure they explain it at the end, no weapon because it melted... one of the Sherlock Holmes movies or TV show?

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Irony posted...

Just smash a block of ice over their head

That reminds me, there was this one detective story which had the murderer kill his victim by smashing his head with a giant slab of frozen meat.

Since the guy also happened to be the chef for a restaurant, he then simply destroyed the evidence by cooking the meat and feeding it to the customers. Pretty devious.

I can't remember how he was finally caught though. Maybe some trace of the meat was left on the victim's bashed head or something as a clue.

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Whack someone over the head with a frozen leg of lamb then cook it in the oven afterwards. When the police come to investigate, serve them the lamb.

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Damn you

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i once read a murder story where the killer slammed the victim in the back of his dragula

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mythbusters already proved you cant make ice bullets since no matter how deeply frozen they are, the heat from the gun will always melt it within centimetets from the gun when firing it

A deep frozen knife would probably be effective. Even if it was easy to break when stabbing (i doubt that if its deep frozen), it would still be good for slicing

Its probably easier to just buy a regular knife and then just not leave any dna evidence at the scene . Youd have to do that with an ice weapon anyway but now its less effort

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IIRC John McClane stabbed a guy right through the eyeball in Die Hard 2.

In the eye, with a hard enough icicle, could be feasible.

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Rika_Furude posted...

mythbusters already proved you cant make ice bullets since no matter how deeply frozen they are, the heat from the gun will always melt it within centimetets from the gun when firing it

A deep frozen knife would probably be effective. Even if it was easy to break when stabbing (i doubt that if its deep frozen), it would still be good for slicing

Its probably easier to just buy a regular knife and then just not leave any dna evidence at the scene . Youd have to do that with an ice weapon anyway but now its less effort

Even in an old timey flintlock type gun that fired those metal balls?

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The smarter thing to do is just make people believe icicle can kill, but you actually kill them with something else.

Then people who believe icicle can kill with never suspect you.

Classic misdirect people to believe murder weapon is something ridiculous, when it's actually just a friggin common kitchen knife!


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Smashingpmkns posted...

Pretty sure I've seen a movie or read a book where an icicle was the murder weapon

Die Hard 2. John stab a terrorist through the eye with one.

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Rika_Furude posted...

mythbusters already proved you cant make ice bullets since no matter how deeply frozen they are, the heat from the gun will always melt it within centimetets from the gun when firing it

Didn't they also make bullets out of meat at one point?

I'll be honest; I've thought hard about this.

You'd want to make a [disposable] mold for a knife. Thick enough that the straight blow wouldnt brake the blade. Roughly 3/4" thick. After that, use a real knife to sharpen it. After sharpening you'll need to refreeze it and keep it as cold as possible until use. If done properly it wouldnt even need to fully melt; finger prints would disappear in seconds thanks to the external/internal heat from you/them.

Didclaimer: Only thought about it for a D&D campaign; I do not condone these actions.

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SolidShadow3 posted...

I'll be honest; I've thought hard about this.

You'd want to make a [disposable] mold for a knife. Thick enough that the straight blow wouldnt brake the blade. Roughly 3/4" thick. After that, use a real knife to sharpen it. Acter sharpening you'll need to refreeze it and keep it as cold as possible until use. If done properly it wouldnt even need to fully melt; finger prints would disappear in seconds thanks to the external/internal heat from you/them.

Didclaimer: Only thought about it for a D&D campaign; I do not condone these actions.

*puts SolidShadow3 on a watchlist*

PokemonYoutube posted...

*puts SolidShadow3 on a watchlist*

Damn... knew I shouldn't have said it outloud.

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The "perfect" murder weapon wouldn't leave any trace of an attack. It would look like natural causes. The reason is because even if the weapon isn't around, it's obvious the victim was murdered. You don't need a weapon to round up a list of suspects with motive or opportunity. And there are plenty of other ways you probably left forensic clues at the crime scene.

No murder weapon might make the prosecuter's job harder, but IANAL. I assume a jury could be convinced that you're a murderer and were just crafty enough to dispose of the weapon.

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The closest thought I've had was the idea of someone being impaled by a falling icicle from above, particularly a big one.

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This was an idea in The Westing Game
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Accolon posted...

Just make a gun out of ice

And ice bullets

and speak in lame ice themed puns.

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KillingOfSatan posted...

Whack someone over the head with a frozen leg of lamb then cook it in the oven afterwards. When the police come to investigate, serve them the lamb.

Goddamn it I wanted to post this.

Loved that story

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Lamb to the slaughter by Roald Dahl has a pretty good murder weapon.

Also theres that one Nougami Neuro case with the chef (just remember that one because it involves thawing to hide evidence).

Not perfect because its difficult to transport, often brittle and only readily available in winter in certain areas.

Its gonna be tough getting a reliable kill with it even if you get it to the victim.

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Be sure to add some Mr. Freeze puns from Batman and Robin.

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