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iPhone_7
08/21/20 11:32:08 PM
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Although Black men are killed by the police more than any other group, Black women are regular targets of police violence even though this fact is often rendered invisible.

A culture and history of racist misrepresentation may have something to do with it. Why has there been considerable tolerance among the silent majority of white people for animal-like, demonic representations of Black people in media and popular culture?

The short answer is that we are dealing with a culture of domination. It is a culture that thrives on the sexualized demonization of Black people. Two examples of this are Ridley Scotts Alien, which comports with the trope of Black women as alien breeders and Predator, written by brothers Jim and John Thomas, that riffs on images of Black men as dreadlocked, violent and superhuman.

https://theconversation.com/amp/how-hollywoods-alien-and-predator-movies-reinforce-anti-black-racism-127088

Did you enjoy the Alien & Predator movies? Are you an ally or are you part of the silent majority that is contributing to systemic racism?

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Zikten
08/21/20 11:34:22 PM
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I kinda get what they are saying about Predator (even though cultures all over the world have had dreads)

But I d9nt get the Alien thing. Just cause Xenomorphs are black doesn't mean they represent black humans
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Monolith1676
08/21/20 11:35:31 PM
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People just get dumber and dumber.

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Romulox28
08/21/20 11:36:09 PM
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TIL the predator is black

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FortuneCookie
08/21/20 11:39:05 PM
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I was just thinking earlier how full of shit some people are for saying the hyenas from Lion King and the orcs from World of Warcraft are racist.

Looks like the same folks are at it again. Some people like to bring successful people down. Some like a moment's attention. Some just like to stir the pot. It's really shitty that some people are allowed to project this hard. You literally cannot keep ahead of accusations of racism.


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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/21/20 11:39:45 PM
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I see someone had nothing else to do except make up bullshit lies to suit their narrative.

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Infinite 2003
08/21/20 11:42:12 PM
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Reed Richards cant reach this far

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Esrac
08/21/20 11:42:54 PM
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Jesus Christ, black people don't own dreadlocks. Alien monsters can have them without being an allegory. Aliens being jet black in color is not an allegory for black women.
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SolidShadow3
08/21/20 11:43:34 PM
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I don't think any racist is willing to call a black man a "superhuman".

This is one of the more contrived articles.

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rodu_jr
08/21/20 11:44:26 PM
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the dreadlocked predator didn't even come about until production had started
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Kastrada
08/21/20 11:45:19 PM
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How many times have the Aliens or Predator movies had a black person or other racial minorities survive?

Also how many other horror films can say that? >_>

Also also, aren't Predators shown to be far and away more advance than human civilization and in fact influenced humanity?

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shnangyboos
08/21/20 11:45:42 PM
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When you need to write a progressive article, but all the good topics have been covered.

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FortuneCookie
08/21/20 11:47:07 PM
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I get that, "just because something is non-human, that doesn't mean they can't be an allegory." If you look at Dumbo for instance, it's pretty obvious that the crows are meant to be Black.

But to project onto everything you can, and read the most hostile interpretations possible, is some fascist bullshit. That's the court of guilty until proven innocent. And you can never prove you're innocent. That's why we have guilty and "not guilty" verdicts. The burden of proof lies with guilt -- not innocence.

A spear is not a racist concept.

A spear is a weapon which has historically been used by many peoples. In giving a spear to an ogre or an alien, you are not saying that the bearer of that spear represents an ethnic group you wish to demonize. It has a suggestion of primitive behavior, yes, but primitive behavior is fair game for exploration in fiction.

If every character -- if every human, every alien, every mythic creature, and every anthropomorphic animal -- had a business suit and a heightened vocabulary, these same people would be complaining about "model minority" depictions or splitting hairs over which intellectual is a demonized representation of which ethnic group.

There's no way to guard yourself against others who wish to feign offense.

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I4NRulez
08/21/20 11:52:01 PM
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Xenomorphs are black because they are supposed to be the ultimate killer.

Hidden, fast, strong, invincible, deadly.

Predator i can kinda see where they are coming from though but its still a big stretch.

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candyapplered
08/21/20 11:56:45 PM
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I had a strong urge to join the klan after watching the movie and now I know why. NOW I KNOW WHY!!!

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Flauros
08/21/20 11:58:04 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
How does Predator 2 factor into this? Id Danny Glover defeating the Predator a statement on black-on-black crime or something?
Or some shit about him being an uncle tom because Glover was a black cop that took down a Predator that was just trying to make a living by turning to crime because of the way society is stacked against him.

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cjsdowg
08/22/20 12:00:46 AM
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This is the biggest search ever , and the Predators locs were fly as well.

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/22/20 12:03:17 AM
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This shit is wack.

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ViewtifulGrave
08/22/20 12:06:52 AM
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SolidShadow3 posted...
I don't think any racist is willing to call a black man a "superhuman".

This is one of the more contrived articles.
They used to tell white women that black guys have big dicks to scare them, until it backfired on them.

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Phoenixeater
08/22/20 2:20:14 AM
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I saw a video about the article. All I can say is that the professor and/or journalist who wrote it is a clown. Scratch that! A whole circus. The entire thing was written to intentionally spread propaganda and misinformation for rage clicks from fans of those films. That and pandering to SWJs/far-left morons on Twitter who constantly find dumb shit to complain about by see stuff that aren't even there like racism in Aliens and Predator.

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pegusus123456
08/23/20 1:50:44 AM
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The funny thing is that you could maybe make the argument that the Xenomorph is homophobic.

You'd still be dimmer than a broken bulb in the middle of a cornfield, but at least it'd be a little brighter.

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TrumpTrain
08/24/20 6:44:26 PM
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Isn't the professor pretty racist for immediately looking at scary aliens as black people?
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Lysandear
08/24/20 6:45:18 PM
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Do predators even have dreads? They look like tentacles or bananas or something
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Wii_Shaker
08/24/20 6:49:26 PM
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A very YouTubey take on things.

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mach25687
08/24/20 6:51:13 PM
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Ok, talk about grasping on straw here. Those movies had nothing to do with races of people.

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Patchwork
08/24/20 6:51:47 PM
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This is the kind of shit that, when it was written, the author thought it was so insightful.

And normal people read it and just... shake their fuckin heads.

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pfh1001
08/24/20 6:56:10 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
People just get dumber and dumber.
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BeyondWalls
08/24/20 6:56:40 PM
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The Predator thing is 100% true and has been brought up since day one. I also thought thats why they cast Danny Glover for the second one. To get away from the mistake they made.

I dont know about Alien though. That seems like reaching.

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EbonTitanium
08/24/20 6:58:10 PM
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This is close to the same thing said about orcs.

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BeyondWalls
08/24/20 7:00:47 PM
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I dont understand why you kids are just hearing about this now. I remember people talking about this back in the 80s before Predator 2 even hit the screens. The Predator being a souped up black man is NOT a new theory by any stretch.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/24/20 7:02:24 PM
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How the fuck is this moron a professor at a university lol

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EbonTitanium
08/24/20 7:03:13 PM
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I know the original Predator was played by a black guy.

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rodu_jr
08/24/20 8:26:56 PM
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This is the original Predator. It was the Predator until production had started, and was eventually scrapped and they changed SFX companies. The look we all know came about late into things
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