Poll of the Day > Which game invented the item rarity colors?

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baltoboulbobbi 08/19/20 7:19:04 AM #1:	White/grey green blue purple orange/gold Which game invented that specific order? --- Not changing this sign until Anivia gets nerfed, started 28 sep 2017 https://imgur.com/jcJwFoT - March 1st 2019 <cite>baltoboulbobbi posted [p:943562338] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>White/grey green blue purple orange/gold Which game invented that specific order? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 08/19/20 7:20:36 AM #2:	WoW or Diablo, probably. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:943562357] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>WoW or Diablo, probably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 08/19/20 7:26:46 AM #3:	Was going to say Diablo. Never played WoW, not sure which came first --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 "Far-Queue is probably one of the least troll-like of the posters here." - LinkPizza <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:943562432] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Was going to say Diablo. Never played WoW, not sure which came first </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/19/20 7:33:24 AM #4:	baltoboulbobbi posted... White/grey green blue purple orange/gold WoW used that specific order; but Diablo used different colours (with Yellow), so did Titanquest. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:943562518] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>baltoboulbobbi posted... </cite> <quote>White/grey green blue purple orange/gold</quote> WoW used that specific order; but Diablo used different colours (with Yellow), so did Titanquest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/19/20 7:39:34 AM #5:	According to a bit of research the earliest thing I can find is a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. It's specifically where the creator's of diablo got the idea. I'm not sure if it actually originated there or if angband took that idea from somewhere else but thats as far as I could trace it back. That's just for colored rarity though. WoW was the first to use the order you mentioned. Diablo was very similar but green denoted a set item. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943562630] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>According to a bit of research the earliest thing I can find is a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. It's specifically where the creator's of diablo got the idea. I'm not sure if it actually originated there or if angband took that idea from somewhere else but thats as far as I could trace it back. That's just for colored rarity though. WoW was the first to use the order you mentioned. Diablo was very similar but green denoted a set item. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/19/20 7:49:12 AM #6:	YoukaiSlayer posted... According to a bit of research the earliest thing I can find is a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. It's specifically where the creator's of diablo got the idea. I'm not sure if it actually originated there or if angband took that idea from somewhere else but thats as far as I could trace it back. That's just for colored rarity though. WoW was the first to use the order you mentioned. Diablo was very similar but green denoted a set item. I've often heard that Diablo 1 is actually an Angband-like, but I don't know about other factors --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:943562776] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>According to a bit of research the earliest thing I can find is a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. It's specifically where the creator's of diablo got the idea. I'm not sure if it actually originated there or if angband took that idea from somewhere else but thats as far as I could trace it back. That's just for colored rarity though. WoW was the first to use the order you mentioned. Diablo was very similar but green denoted a set item.</quote> I've often heard that Diablo 1 is actually an Angband-like, but I don't know about other factors </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 08/19/20 8:01:16 AM #7:	YoukaiSlayer posted... a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. I'm kind of astonished that Angband came out as late as 1990. I always sort of lump it in with Rogue and Akalabeth (the proto-Ultima) in my head (both of which came out in 1980). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:943562961] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted...</cite> <quote>a game called Tolkien's Angband released in 1990.</quote> I'm kind of astonished that Angband came out as late as 1990. I always sort of lump it in with Rogue and Akalabeth (the proto-Ultima) in my head (both of which came out in 1980).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 08/19/20 8:27:36 AM #8:	YoukaiSlayer posted... Tolkien's Angband released in 1990. Goes to google Man, why haven't I heard of this before? Geez... --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:943563443] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>Tolkien's Angband released in 1990.</quote> Goes to google Man, why haven't I heard of this before? Geez... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/19/20 10:33:02 AM #9:	Lokarin posted... I've often heard that Diablo 1 is actually an Angband-like, but I don't know about other factors The interview I got my info from had the guy saying that he played thousands of hours of angband and wanted to make diablo to be like an updated version of it so it sounds reasonable. I'd never heard of angband before I looked it all up today. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943566419] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>I've often heard that Diablo 1 is actually an Angband-like, but I don't know about other factors</quote>The interview I got my info from had the guy saying that he played thousands of hours of angband and wanted to make diablo to be like an updated version of it so it sounds reasonable. I'd never heard of angband before I looked it all up today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Black_Crusher 08/19/20 11:14:49 AM #10:	baltoboulbobbi posted... White/grey green blue purple orange/gold Which game invented that specific order? I'd say Diablo also, however I think it went: Diablo 1- White / Blue / Orange Diablo 2- White / Blue / Yellow / Gold, with Green being set pieces (EDIT: Orange are crafted items, EDIT #2: Grey are Socketed Items) --- Bone Appetit, my skeleton Metroidvania! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1256520 <cite>Black_Crusher posted [p:943567678] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>baltoboulbobbi posted... </cite> <quote>White/grey green blue purple orange/gold Which game invented that specific order?</quote> I'd say Diablo also, however I think it went: Diablo 1- White / Blue / Orange Diablo 2- White / Blue / Yellow / Gold, with Green being set pieces (EDIT: Orange are crafted items, EDIT #2: Grey are Socketed Items) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 08/19/20 11:29:21 AM #11:	Gold makes sense for being the highest, because gold. Purple is usually used for Best in Class/Best in Show/Champion ribbons, and Blue for First Place. Why Green would be next I don't know, because Red is usually Second Place, with White as Third Place. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:943568142] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Gold makes sense for being the highest, because gold. Purple is usually used for Best in Class/Best in Show/Champion ribbons, and Blue for First Place. Why Green would be next I don't know, because Red is usually Second Place, with White as Third Place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Black_Crusher 08/19/20 11:31:42 AM #12:	It's funny because I still vividly remember my first unique in D2. It was not long after launch and I was gambling at Gheed's in Act 2. I got a pair of frostburns and at first I didn't realize it was a different color because it's a VERY light color of gold. I don't even think you can gamble for uniques in D2 anymore, can you? I'm working on a new roguelike now that uses color tiers but it's only limited to 3: White / Blue / Purple. I've always liked the idea of color rarity however some games do kind of take it out of hand. I figure 3 is a good number, i.e. "Crap", "Good", and "Holy Shit!". Once you start having too many it becomes tough to conceive: "Crap", "Kinda Good", "A Little Better than Kinda' Good", "Good", "Better than Good", etc. No sense in having 10 different colors! Diablo 2 is just about right. Green exists on the side of the normal tier grouping of White / Blue / Yellow / Gold because set items can be cheap-o stuff like the Arctic Furs padded armor or high-end gear like Tal Rasha's or IK. EDIT: Actually I totally forgot but there's also an Orange text for crafted items! --- Bone Appetit, my skeleton Metroidvania! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1256520 <cite>Black_Crusher posted [p:943568204] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>It's funny because I still vividly remember my first unique in D2. It was not long after launch and I was gambling at Gheed's in Act 2. I got a pair of frostburns and at first I didn't realize it was a different color because it's a VERY light color of gold. I don't even think you can gamble for uniques in D2 anymore, can you? I'm working on a new roguelike now that uses color tiers but it's only limited to 3: White / Blue / Purple. I've always liked the idea of color rarity however some games do kind of take it out of hand. I figure 3 is a good number, i.e. "Crap", "Good", and "Holy Shit!". Once you start having too many it becomes tough to conceive: "Crap", "Kinda Good", "A Little Better than Kinda' Good", "Good", "Better than Good", etc. No sense in having 10 different colors! Diablo 2 is just about right. Green exists on the side of the normal tier grouping of White / Blue / Yellow / Gold because set items can be cheap-o stuff like the Arctic Furs padded armor or high-end gear like Tal Rasha's or IK. EDIT: Actually I totally forgot but there's also an Orange text for crafted items! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 08/19/20 11:46:07 AM #13:	captpackrat posted... Gold makes sense for being the highest, because gold. Purple is usually used for Best in Class/Best in Show/Champion ribbons, and Blue for First Place. Why Green would be next I don't know, because Red is usually Second Place, with White as Third Place. "White" is generally seen as basic/baseline (and grey works pretty well for "worse than that", which is why so many games use it for trash tier loot now). In terms of traditional color associations and social ranking (at least in Europe), Green is peasant (hence Robin Hood), Blue is noble (blue bloods), Red is royal (monarch robes), Purple is imperial (the rarest dye, only used for the most powerful rulers' clothes). And like you mentioned, Gold tends to be the obvious pick for "best" or "legendary tier" things because of the connotations of value. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:943568704] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Gold makes sense for being the highest, because gold. Purple is usually used for Best in Class/Best in Show/Champion ribbons, and Blue for First Place. Why Green would be next I don't know, because Red is usually Second Place, with White as Third Place.</quote> "White" is generally seen as basic/baseline (and grey works pretty well for "worse than that", which is why so many games use it for trash tier loot now). In terms of traditional color associations and social ranking (at least in Europe), Green is peasant (hence Robin Hood), Blue is noble (blue bloods), Red is royal (monarch robes), Purple is imperial (the rarest dye, only used for the most powerful rulers' clothes). And like you mentioned, Gold tends to be the obvious pick for "best" or "legendary tier" things because of the connotations of value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Black_Crusher 08/19/20 11:48:47 AM #14:	ParanoidObsessive posted... and grey works pretty well for "worse than that", which is why so many games use it for trash tier loot now) Son of a bitch, they use grey in D2 too for socketed items :( ..To the editing device! --- Bone Appetit, my skeleton Metroidvania! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1256520 <cite>Black_Crusher posted [p:943568813] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>and grey works pretty well for "worse than that", which is why so many games use it for trash tier loot now)</quote> Son of a bitch, they use grey in D2 too for socketed items :( ..To the editing device! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dmess85 08/19/20 4:57:13 PM #15:	I want to say Phantasy Star Online but they could have taken inspiration from another source. --- Previewing your message before you post is for suckers. http://www.backloggery.com/blasingame <cite>Dmess85 posted [p:943580364] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>I want to say Phantasy Star Online but they could have taken inspiration from another source. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/19/20 10:11:13 PM #16:	Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:943592088] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/19/20 10:20:02 PM #17:	Lokarin posted... Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples? I looked it up and it has maps similar to the game you tried to help me find. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943592376] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples? </quote> I looked it up and it has maps similar to the game you tried to help me find.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 08/19/20 10:28:41 PM #18:	Lokarin posted... WoW used that specific order; but Diablo used different colours (with Yellow), so did Titanquest. This. Diablo was the first to use colors for rarity, but WoW is the one most usually copied. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:943592671] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>WoW used that specific order; but Diablo used different colours (with Yellow), so did Titanquest.</quote>This. Diablo was the first to use colors for rarity, but WoW is the one most usually copied. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 08/19/20 10:29:08 PM #19:	Pretty sure it was WoW --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:943592685] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure it was WoW </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/20/20 5:18:35 AM #20:	Lokarin posted... Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples? If there is anything earlier it's probably some tiny text adventure that is impossible to find any info on. Unless you go outside of games in which case the idea of colored ribbons or medals is like centuries old and I think can be traced back to early dye scarcity of certain colors which damn well might go back to cavemen times. Makes me wonder if that alone could have contributed to the development of our brains sense of color value but probably not. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943601168] in Which game... [t:78921079]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Lets assume Angband is ONE of the starts, which is 1990... can we find any earlier examples?</quote>If there is anything earlier it's probably some tiny text adventure that is impossible to find any info on. Unless you go outside of games in which case the idea of colored ribbons or medals is like centuries old and I think can be traced back to early dye scarcity of certain colors which damn well might go back to cavemen times. Makes me wonder if that alone could have contributed to the development of our brains sense of color value but probably not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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