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specialkid8
08/05/20 6:23:22 PM
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Why do you buy into a team based political system based on dehumanizing the "opposition" in order to validate the opinions that were given to you rather than thinking for yourself and pushing for compromise to make the largest number of people happy?
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Politics
08/05/20 6:26:31 PM
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Because you cant be neutral on a moving train

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Squall28
08/05/20 6:27:25 PM
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I'd prefer saying I'm a left leaning independent at this point

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inloveanddeath0
08/05/20 6:28:08 PM
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I am more or less. I'm more on the lib side but I hate politics in general

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DespondentDeity
08/05/20 6:28:13 PM
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It's incompatible with my values to tolerate certain beliefs.

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Bestoffuture
08/05/20 6:29:33 PM
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Because I've seen how screwed over the working class has been since 1973.

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Antifar
08/05/20 6:29:35 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
Why do you buy into a team based political system based on dehumanizing the "opposition" in order to validate the opinions that were given to you rather than thinking for yourself

Definitely no dehumanizing of opposition happening here.
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TheMikh
08/05/20 6:30:42 PM
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Tenlaar
08/05/20 6:31:20 PM
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Because so many centrists are egotistical idiots who like to huff their own farts by saying things like "if you're not a centrist you aren't thinking for yourself."
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monkmith
08/05/20 6:36:17 PM
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TheMikh
08/05/20 6:36:31 PM
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Tenlaar posted...

do you mean to say

you're not a centrist because you harbor a dislike your idea of centrists, rather than any having concrete disagreements with centrism

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nfearurspecimn
08/05/20 6:37:41 PM
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Because my heart aligns more with liberal ideals than conservative ones.

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Smashingpmkns
08/05/20 6:39:26 PM
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Because I don't lack conviction
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MaverickXeo
08/05/20 6:42:09 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
It's incompatible with my values to tolerate certain beliefs.

Centrism is not simply saying 'both sides are right,' instead, its more of saying 'one side is right on this, but I don't agree with that' while 'the other side is right on that, but not this.'

The idea behind centrism is to pull from both (or multiple) systems to create a balanced one.

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Tenlaar
08/05/20 6:42:27 PM
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TheMikh posted...
do you mean to say

you're not a centrist because you harbor a dislike your idea of centrists, rather than any having concrete disagreements with centrism
I'm highlighting an example of just one of the common flaws in the centrist ideology that the TC displayed. Super duper sorry if it bothers you that I recognize that centrism is actually an ideology based on a lack of reasoning and mostly draws people who are desperate to feel like they're above the pack.
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Paper_Okami
08/05/20 6:43:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/internethippo/status/881161169469403137?lang=en

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Gamerguymass
08/05/20 6:56:00 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
Centrism is not simply saying 'both sides are right,' instead, its more of saying 'one side is right on this, but I don't agree with that' while 'the other side is right on that, but not this.'

The idea behind centrism is to pull from both (or multiple) systems to create a balanced one.

Hey someone who actually knows what it means. You can always tell the people that belong to one side or the other in these topics since they come in with the same misinformed cluless arguements how centrists don't agree with anything or believe that everything has to be neutral.

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Blue_Dream87
08/05/20 7:00:58 PM
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Because centrists are more afraid of commitment than I am

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MrToothHasYou
08/05/20 7:06:40 PM
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Because I would like to actually see change in my lifetime

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/05/20 7:08:47 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Hey someone who actually knows what it means. You can always tell the people that belong to one side or the other in these topics since they come in with the same misinformed cluless arguements how centrists don't agree with anything or believe that everything has to be neutral.
I didn't even want to post in this topic because people are so brainwashed to be on one side or the other that they can't comprehend someone looking at both sides of an issue and coming to a logical conclusion.

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sondast
08/05/20 7:09:47 PM
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Replace all Republicans with Democrats, then I'll be a centrist again.

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IMNOTRAGED
08/05/20 7:10:59 PM
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I thought for myself and came to the conclusion that left is best

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/05/20 7:13:51 PM
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Because I think that the political beliefs I actually have are good.

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RedJackson
08/05/20 7:45:34 PM
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Nobody's political beliefs will actually go on to change anything, so it really doesn't matter what side you're on - you vote, go home, and take a **** and forget about it the other 1,459 days

What you're trying to change is people, not the political landscape, as long as people are within a party they will probably and most likely remain on said party

It's like saying 'I think Domino's Pineapple pizza is the best' and another group saying 'I think Pizza Hut Pinapple pizza is the best' and centrists saying 'wouldn't you just want better ingredients or pizza from a better restaurant anyhow?'

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ThyCorndog
08/05/20 7:46:06 PM
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because i'm a democratic socialist. I don't know what centrism really means cause everyone's definition of is it different

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FL81
08/05/20 7:46:49 PM
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RedJackson posted...
It's like saying 'I think Domino's Pineapple pizza is the best' and another group saying 'I think Pizza Hut Pinapple pizza is the best' and centrists saying 'wouldn't you just want better ingredients or pizza from a better restaurant anyhow?'
I mean

in your hypothetical, the centrists are right

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Shablagoo
08/05/20 7:47:36 PM
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Smackems
08/05/20 7:48:57 PM
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I am though

Depending on how one wants to define it (not hurr durr split every policy down the middle)

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RedJackson
08/05/20 7:52:04 PM
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FL81 posted...
I mean

in your hypothetical, the centrists are right

Yes, we tend to be very correct
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Shablagoo
08/05/20 7:52:45 PM
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Gamerguymass
08/05/20 7:52:46 PM
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Shablagoo posted...

I mean would you people prefer the word independent since apparently the word centrist is beyond your grasp?

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nfearurspecimn
08/05/20 7:52:58 PM
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Honestly I don't get the hate for Centrists. What's wrong with wanting to be a centrist? All it means is you don't fully agree with either side on every issue.

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Shablagoo
08/05/20 7:54:55 PM
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Shablagoo
08/05/20 7:56:27 PM
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MarqueeSeries
08/05/20 7:56:59 PM
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Because I align more with far left ideals. And I say that having grown up conservative

The idea that anyone that's not a centrist isn't thinking for themselves is dumb as hell
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Blue_Dream87
08/05/20 7:58:09 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
I mean would you people prefer the word independent since apparently the word centrist is beyond your grasp?

I don't think you can call Bernie a centrist

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p-m
08/05/20 7:58:57 PM
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All centrists ever do is enable the right to exploit and kill people.

And right wing ideology is based around dehumanising the majority of people and treating them as expendable tools and commodities. Anyone who is pro capitalism is an enemy of decent people everywhere.

That's why I'm on the left.

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Smackems
08/05/20 7:59:00 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
Honestly I don't get the hate for Centrists. What's wrong with wanting to be a centrist? All it means is you don't fully agree with either side on every issue.
People have a dumb ass view that centrists just sit on the fence on everything

But also trying to find the definition of centrist is murky

I consider myself a "centrist" and here is where I stand on some things

Pro 2nd amendment
Pro abortion
Anti political correctness
Pro medicare for all

I don't stand in the middle of things I care about

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The_homelander
08/05/20 8:04:49 PM
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Being an independent or moderate is great.

centrist is stupid. The eNlIgHtEnEd cEnTrIsTs are like this side wants to kill all (race here) and this side wants to not kill anyone, lets reach a compromise and kill half of all the (race here)

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Shablagoo
08/05/20 8:05:43 PM
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Smackems posted...
People have a dumb ass view that centrists just sit on the fence on everything

But also trying to find the definition of centrist is murky

I consider myself a "centrist" and here is where I stand on some things

Pro 2nd amendment
Pro abortion
Anti political correctness
Pro medicare for all

I don't stand in the middle of things I care about

Based on that description I would consider you a leftist.

p-m posted...
All centrists ever do is enable the right to exploit and kill people.

And right wing ideology is based around dehumanising the majority of people and treating them as expendable tools and commodities. Anyone who is pro capitalism is an enemy of decent people everywhere.

That's why I'm on the left.

This, pretty much. Centrists will always kowtow to fascists when the going gets rough.

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specialkid8
08/05/20 8:07:51 PM
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The_homelander posted...
Being an independent or moderate is great.

centrist is stupid. The eNlIgHtEnEd cEnTrIsTs are like this side wants to kill all (race here) and this side wants to not kill anyone, lets reach a compromise and kill half of all the (race here)
This is not a thing. Those words are all interchangeable.
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ThyCorndog
08/05/20 8:09:10 PM
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Smackems posted...
Pro 2nd amendment
Pro abortion
Anti political correctness
Pro medicare for all
bolded is not a stance on any political spectrum. a leftist that's ok with guns is still a leftist. those are stuff I all agree with and i'm a democratic socialist. I don't really care about guns or political correctness

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The_homelander
08/05/20 8:09:23 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
This is not a thing. Those words are all interchangeable.

nope.

centrists by definition try to find a compromise to please bOtH sIdEs

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Smackems
08/05/20 8:10:48 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Based on that description I would consider you a leftist.

This, pretty much. Centrists will always kowtow to fascists when the going gets rough.
That's why I said the definition is murky

But I am always center left libertarian in the political tests I take, but there are leftist things i disagree with and right...ist things I do agree with

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Sackgurl
08/05/20 8:11:44 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
pushing for compromise

because a compromise with fascists isn't in the middle

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CommonJoe
08/05/20 8:12:12 PM
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The political center doesn't actually exist in any major way yet in the context of American politics.

Being a "centrist" in America is just code for "I dont know anything about politics".

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ThyCorndog
08/05/20 8:12:47 PM
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fyi, the definition of centrist as someone who mostly agrees with one side but doesn't totally fall in line with that side is a dumb one

literally 99% of people would be centrists then. there's always one or two issues that people on both the left and right are a bit lax on

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CyricZ
08/05/20 8:13:50 PM
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Because I don't want to be thought of as a person who is so arrogant that they think they can find the perfect middle between two arbitrary political standpoints with hundreds of individual beliefs.

Because I'd rather not fall for the Golden Mean Fallacy.

Because fighting for the political status quo always benefits conservatives.

Because I'd rather stand for something than stand for nothing.

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FL81
08/05/20 8:14:02 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
This is not a thing. Those words are all interchangeable.
wat

Like, I get "moderate", but "independent" doesn't mean what you think it means. Like, you can be anywhere on the political spectrum and still be an independent

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