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The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 9:10:39 PM #1:	In April of 2019, I was admitted to a behavioral health campus offering mental health services. Glad I finally got the bill over a year later in almost August of 2020. The bills covers room, food, therapy, prescription medicine, transportation, etc. These services are supposed to be exemplary according to the staff except they are not. During my stay, it was awful. When I was being taken to the health campus via a medical transportation van, one of the staff members inside the van was full of gas because he could not stop relieving himself. It was a 20 minute ride so I had to lay there and inhale his putrid smells. That should have told me that I was in for a horrible experience. Upon arrival, it was a disorienting experience as several people surrounded me on the stretcher asking various questions. All of them were talking at the same time. Afterwards, I was taken to a room and told to strip all clothing to make sure I was not hiding anything illegal. Standard procedure for all patients. However, the inspection is conducted by whomever is available to do it among the staff including the guards. I would imagine it's uncomfortable for a woman to be told to take off her clothing in front of a male guard. In my case, I almost had to do the inspection with only women present. Then, I'm given clothing to wear and given a schedule for the next three days. The layout of the facility was pretty depressing. The two halls leading away from the "hub" to the rooms were all white. All the windows were bolted shut. Inside the rooms were two beds, two shelves, and a bathroom with no door so I hope you do not mind shitting in front of your roommate if you have one. I only had a roommate for one day. His name was Giovanni and he was pretty cool. Coincidence that the only two black guys were roomed together but I digress. He could tell this was my first stay so he gave me some helpful tips such as do whatever the staff tells you so that you get out as fast as possible. Don't act out or risk being potentially beaten by the guards. Eat the horrible food or else they'll keep you longer. Go to the time wasting therapy sessions so show that you care. Stay away from the other patients at all times. He claimed his admittance was foolishness as people thought he was suicidal for walking on the side of a highway when he was just trying to get home. I liked him. Anyways, I played ball. The head psychiatrist, Dr. Crane(another coincidence given my username), was a piece of work. He never helped me at all. He asked of my status in high school and college. Once he found out I was one of the more popular people in my high school graduating class and a student that is recognized by quite a few on campus as I stick out, he was more interesting in talking about how many women I bang. Not even kidding. That's all we talked about. The other patients disliked him so he must have clowned around with them as well. He told one girl who was addicted to drugs to just "stop taking them". I wish I was making this shit up. As for therapy, one of my group sessions was centered around play-doh and how relaxing it feels in our hands. In another session, the lights were turned off and we were told to look at the wall since a star projector was turned on. It was supposed to be relaxing. Another group session involved an older gentleman who would play the guitar and sing to us. For downtime between sessions, we had coloring books and some severely torn fiction books. There was a TV but most of the channels were blocked. Many of the nurses and nursing students asked why I was there when interacting with me as I seemed completely stable. It only seemed that way because many of the patients were severely mentally unstable. Many of the patients who could talk weren't able to hold actual conversations as they repeated themselves, talked to people who were hallucinations, would only converse about the subject of their obsession, etc. There were also patients who couldn't talk at all. Think in Batman Arkham Asylum, the patients in the Penitentiary who could only gurgle and scream. There were patients like that but many of them were confined to their padded rooms since they had violent tendencies. Only the peaceful ones were allowed to roam around the ward. All in all, it was a horrible experience for me. I'm sure there are mental health facilities that are great in the country of the United States. From what I heard, the one I stayed at has become slightly better since my exit. However, I'll never go back. Wish the bill didn't come in the middle of a pandemic when job availability is already limited but that's life for you. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942799327] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>In April of 2019, I was admitted to a behavioral health campus offering mental health services. Glad I finally got the bill over a year later in almost August of 2020. The bills covers room, food, therapy, prescription medicine, transportation, etc. These services are supposed to be exemplary according to the staff except they are not. During my stay, it was awful. When I was being taken to the health campus via a medical transportation van, one of the staff members inside the van was full of gas because he could not stop relieving himself. It was a 20 minute ride so I had to lay there and inhale his putrid smells. That should have told me that I was in for a horrible experience. Upon arrival, it was a disorienting experience as several people surrounded me on the stretcher asking various questions. All of them were talking at the same time. Afterwards, I was taken to a room and told to strip all clothing to make sure I was not hiding anything illegal. Standard procedure for all patients. However, the inspection is conducted by whomever is available to do it among the staff including the guards. I would imagine it's uncomfortable for a woman to be told to take off her clothing in front of a male guard. In my case, I almost had to do the inspection with only women present. Then, I'm given clothing to wear and given a schedule for the next three days. The layout of the facility was pretty depressing. The two halls leading away from the "hub" to the rooms were all white. All the windows were bolted shut. Inside the rooms were two beds, two shelves, and a bathroom with no door so I hope you do not mind shitting in front of your roommate if you have one. I only had a roommate for one day. His name was Giovanni and he was pretty cool. Coincidence that the only two black guys were roomed together but I digress. He could tell this was my first stay so he gave me some helpful tips such as do whatever the staff tells you so that you get out as fast as possible. Don't act out or risk being potentially beaten by the guards. Eat the horrible food or else they'll keep you longer. Go to the time wasting therapy sessions so show that you care. Stay away from the other patients at all times. He claimed his admittance was foolishness as people thought he was suicidal for walking on the side of a highway when he was just trying to get home. I liked him. Anyways, I played ball. The head psychiatrist, Dr. Crane(another coincidence given my username), was a piece of work. He never helped me at all. He asked of my status in high school and college. Once he found out I was one of the more popular people in my high school graduating class and a student that is recognized by quite a few on campus as I stick out, he was more interesting in talking about how many women I bang. Not even kidding. That's all we talked about. The other patients disliked him so he must have clowned around with them as well. He told one girl who was addicted to drugs to just "stop taking them". I wish I was making this shit up. As for therapy, one of my group sessions was centered around play-doh and how relaxing it feels in our hands. In another session, the lights were turned off and we were told to look at the wall since a star projector was turned on. It was supposed to be relaxing. Another group session involved an older gentleman who would play the guitar and sing to us. For downtime between sessions, we had coloring books and some severely torn fiction books. There was a TV but most of the channels were blocked. Many of the nurses and nursing students asked why I was there when interacting with me as I seemed completely stable. It only seemed that way because many of the patients were severely mentally unstable. Many of the patients who could talk weren't able to hold actual conversations as they repeated themselves, talked to people who were hallucinations, would only converse about the subject of their obsession, etc. There were also patients who couldn't talk at all. Think in Batman Arkham Asylum, the patients in the Penitentiary who could only gurgle and scream. There were patients like that but many of them were confined to their padded rooms since they had violent tendencies. Only the peaceful ones were allowed to roam around the ward. All in all, it was a horrible experience for me. I'm sure there are mental health facilities that are great in the country of the United States. From what I heard, the one I stayed at has become slightly better since my exit. However, I'll never go back. Wish the bill didn't come in the middle of a pandemic when job availability is already limited but that's life for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gnomefromnome 07/30/20 9:12:32 PM #2:	I think you got off easy... --- Oh my God... That was the dumbest collection of dumbosity I've ever seen! - Famine https://youtu.be/pOtTxMC1ZZQ <cite>gnomefromnome posted [p:942799394] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>I think you got off easy... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 07/30/20 9:13:06 PM #3:	So did your mental health improve after you left? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:942799414] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>So did your mental health improve after you left?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 07/30/20 9:15:34 PM #4:	Reminds me of my stint in a psych ward. Godawful place that I wish I could burn down, preferably with the staff inside and the worthless c**bitch of a eighth rate "doctor". Kept me for six days when I was only to stay three to take meds and be monitored. It cost me three grand. I will absolutely just die before ever setting foot in a place like that again. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up.* Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:942799488] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Reminds me of my stint in a psych ward. Godawful place that I wish I could burn down, preferably with the staff inside and the worthless c***bitch of a eighth rate "doctor". Kept me for six days when I was only to stay three to take meds and be monitored. It cost me three grand. I will absolutely just die before ever setting foot in a place like that again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 07/30/20 9:16:38 PM #5:	St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? --- I got a freakin muscle spasm in my back the gear slipped the air brakes were shot to hell. I mean there was nothing I could do, boom right into the post office <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:942799528] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>So did your mental health improve after you left?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 07/30/20 9:17:18 PM #6:	God bless America. You got shit treatment and a huge bill --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:942799560] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>God bless America. You got shit treatment and a huge bill </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 07/30/20 9:17:38 PM #7:	St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? It better have for $10,000. --- Mitch McConnell is a very beautiful man. Respect. don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:942799574] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>So did your mental health improve after you left?</quote>It better have for $10,000. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 07/30/20 9:18:28 PM #8:	St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:942799604] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>So did your mental health improve after you left?</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 9:24:10 PM #9:	gnomefromnome posted... I think you got off easy... I'm sure many people have had it far worse but I'm still paying a hefty fine for services that did not benefit me in any way. Keep in mind that I'm a college student so it's not like I have tons of spendable money. St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? Eventually. Funny enough, the services I seeked out post stay were completely free and helped immensely. Somehow, the free treatment was far better than the paid treatment. Xatrion posted... Reminds me of my stint in a psych ward. Godawful place that I wish I could burn down, preferably with the staff inside and the worthless c*bitch of a eighth rate "doctor". Kept me for six days when I was only to stay three to take meds and be monitored. It cost me three grand. I will absolutely just die before ever setting foot in a place like that again. Exactly. Many of these psych wards are horrible and they make you hesitant to seek help for your problems. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942799810] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>gnomefromnome posted... </cite> <quote>I think you got off easy...</quote> I'm sure many people have had it far worse but I'm still paying a hefty fine for services that did not benefit me in any way. Keep in mind that I'm a college student so it's not like I have tons of spendable money. St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>So did your mental health improve after you left?</quote> Eventually. Funny enough, the services I seeked out post stay were completely free and helped immensely. Somehow, the free treatment was far better than the paid treatment. Xatrion posted... </cite> <quote>Reminds me of my stint in a psych ward. Godawful place that I wish I could burn down, preferably with the staff inside and the worthless c*bitch of a eighth rate "doctor". Kept me for six days when I was only to stay three to take meds and be monitored. It cost me three grand. I will absolutely just die before ever setting foot in a place like that again.</quote> Exactly. Many of these psych wards are horrible and they make you hesitant to seek help for your problems. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 07/30/20 9:27:08 PM #10:	If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:942799923] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jon1012 07/30/20 9:28:21 PM #11:	72 hour hold or 30 day hold? --- We are Borg. <cite>jon1012 posted [p:942799959] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>72 hour hold or 30 day hold? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WilliamPorygon 07/30/20 9:28:30 PM #12:	MarqueeSeries posted... If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:942799964] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>MarqueeSeries posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 07/30/20 9:34:49 PM #13:	Was it voluntary? --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:942800202] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Was it voluntary? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 07/30/20 9:37:22 PM #14:	The_Scarecrow posted... St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? Eventually. Funny enough, the services I seeked out post stay were completely free and helped immensely. Somehow, the free treatment was far better than the paid treatment That is usually how it goes. Hospitals usually care more about profits than helping. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:942800306] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>The_Scarecrow posted... </cite> <quote> St0rmFury posted... So did your mental health improve after you left? Eventually. Funny enough, the services I seeked out post stay were completely free and helped immensely. Somehow, the free treatment was far better than the paid treatment</quote> That is usually how it goes. Hospitals usually care more about profits than helping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 07/30/20 9:37:25 PM #15:	Dark_SilverX posted... It better have for $10,000. I heard debt does wonders for people's mental health. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:942800307] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Dark_SilverX posted... </cite> <quote>It better have for $10,000.</quote> I heard debt does wonders for people's mental health. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 9:37:51 PM #16:	jon1012 posted... 72 hour hold or 30 day hold? 72 hour hold. MarqueeSeries posted... If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it Won't the bill eventually be sent to a debt collections agency? Houston posted... Was it voluntary? Involuntary. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942800322] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>jon1012 posted... </cite> <quote>72 hour hold or 30 day hold?</quote> 72 hour hold. MarqueeSeries posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't voluntary I'd probably just not pay it</quote> Won't the bill eventually be sent to a debt collections agency? Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Was it voluntary?</quote> Involuntary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 07/30/20 9:44:09 PM #18:	The_Scarecrow posted... 72 hour hold. Won't the bill eventually be sent to a debt collections agency? Involuntary. And your still expected to pay? Are there laws about that? What were the circumstances of your admittance if you don't mind me asking? Doesn't seem right to have to pay for something you didn't agree to unless it was 100% necessary to save your life or something like that. Do you have any recourse in fighting the bill or not paying? --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:942800547] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>The_Scarecrow posted... </cite> <quote>72 hour hold. Won't the bill eventually be sent to a debt collections agency? Involuntary.</quote> And your still expected to pay? Are there laws about that? What were the circumstances of your admittance if you don't mind me asking? Doesn't seem right to have to pay for something you didn't agree to unless it was 100% necessary to save your life or something like that. Do you have any recourse in fighting the bill or not paying? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 07/30/20 9:49:47 PM #19:	Between my wife and kid, I have to pay nearly 4k in one month for two separate surgeries (my co-pay). im thankful I have that money, but this the down side to America I think. Healthcare cost isnt desirable. itll take me probably 6 months to regain that money (if we dont get stimulus checks again). Sucks. --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:942800747] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Between my wife and kid, I have to pay nearly 4k in one month for two separate surgeries (my co-pay). im thankful I have that money, but this the down side to America I think. Healthcare cost isnt desirable. itll take me probably 6 months to regain that money (if we dont get stimulus checks again). Sucks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 07/30/20 10:00:30 PM #20:	I wanted to be a psychiatrist until i rotated through a few psych wards and that was enough for me to nope the fuck outta that job, you experience seems par for the course. Im sure there are expensive private nice places out there but the community hospitals just dont have the resources --- https://imgur.com/rPJnWhf <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:942801130] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>I wanted to be a psychiatrist until i rotated through a few psych wards and that was enough for me to nope the fuck outta that job, you experience seems par for the course. Im sure there are expensive private nice places out there but the community hospitals just dont have the resources </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DaveRose316 07/30/20 10:22:40 PM #21:	Quite a coincidence your psychiatrist was named Dr. Crane. Is his name Frasier or Niles? --- I don't know about angels, it's fear that gives men wings. <cite>DaveRose316 posted [p:942801863] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Quite a coincidence your psychiatrist was named Dr. Crane. Is his name Frasier or Niles? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 10:30:22 PM #22:	nfearurspecimn posted... Your whole experience is straight up horror novel-esque and my stay wasn't anything like this where I was, but... I'm sorry but this just made me lol. Rest of the story is shit though and makes me afraid of being committed. The guards will beat you? What the hell? I'll admit. The van part was funny looking back at it. And yeah, my roommate went into detail on how the guards would beat patients who lashed out. He was beaten himself during some of his previous stays. Some of the other mental health psych wards in the area are far worse when it comes to abuse from what I've been told. The one I was sent to is supposed to be one of the better wards as the worst you usually deal with is a nurse treating you inhumanely. One facility named Haven was at the center of discussion. Everyone admitted there called it a Hell on earth. Houston posted... And your still expected to pay? Are there laws about that? What were the circumstances of your admittance if you don't mind me asking? Doesn't seem right to have to pay for something you didn't agree to unless it was 100% necessary to save your life or something like that. Do you have any recourse in fighting the bill or not paying? A 911 operator was informed that I had thoughts of suicide and responded accordingly. I was on my college campus at the time so the campus police responded and found my whereabouts. They searched my vehicle and discovered a pistol sealed away in a case. It was then where I was admitted to the nearest hospital and taken the psych ward hours later. I informed the staff that there was no concrete plan and I carried the pistol around just as much for protection due to a lot of ongoing issues from another individual making threats of physical violence against me at the time. My family did everything they could to not have me admitted to a psych ward but the 72 hour hold was set since a ward decided to take me rather quickly. The person who reported me did so because they thought I was in danger even though I told them time and time again that I would be fine and I just needed to focus on studying for final exams first. I definitely do not think I should have been there. I can agree with seeking some form of treatment via therapy appointments but the 72 hour hold did not seem totally necessary especially when even the other staff questioned why I was a patient compared to almost everyone else. After reading about the laws of Ohio regarding this, I haven't come across anything detailing the expectations of pay yet. I've only come across the criteria an individual has to meet in order to be commit involuntary and that you are free to walk after a 72 hour hold which is what I decided to do. I do have family who are willing to help me with payments after I explained the situation and I am very lucky for that. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942802076] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote><cite>nfearurspecimn posted... </cite> <quote>Your whole experience is straight up horror novel-esque and my stay wasn't anything like this where I was, but... I'm sorry but this just made me lol. Rest of the story is shit though and makes me afraid of being committed. The guards will beat you? What the hell?</quote> I'll admit. The van part was funny looking back at it. And yeah, my roommate went into detail on how the guards would beat patients who lashed out. He was beaten himself during some of his previous stays. Some of the other mental health psych wards in the area are far worse when it comes to abuse from what I've been told. The one I was sent to is supposed to be one of the better wards as the worst you usually deal with is a nurse treating you inhumanely. One facility named Haven was at the center of discussion. Everyone admitted there called it a Hell on earth. Houston posted... </cite> <quote>And your still expected to pay? Are there laws about that? What were the circumstances of your admittance if you don't mind me asking? Doesn't seem right to have to pay for something you didn't agree to unless it was 100% necessary to save your life or something like that. Do you have any recourse in fighting the bill or not paying?</quote> A 911 operator was informed that I had thoughts of suicide and responded accordingly. I was on my college campus at the time so the campus police responded and found my whereabouts. They searched my vehicle and discovered a pistol sealed away in a case. It was then where I was admitted to the nearest hospital and taken the psych ward hours later. I informed the staff that there was no concrete plan and I carried the pistol around just as much for protection due to a lot of ongoing issues from another individual making threats of physical violence against me at the time. My family did everything they could to not have me admitted to a psych ward but the 72 hour hold was set since a ward decided to take me rather quickly. The person who reported me did so because they thought I was in danger even though I told them time and time again that I would be fine and I just needed to focus on studying for final exams first. I definitely do not think I should have been there. I can agree with seeking some form of treatment via therapy appointments but the 72 hour hold did not seem totally necessary especially when even the other staff questioned why I was a patient compared to almost everyone else. After reading about the laws of Ohio regarding this, I haven't come across anything detailing the expectations of pay yet. I've only come across the criteria an individual has to meet in order to be commit involuntary and that you are free to walk after a 72 hour hold which is what I decided to do. I do have family who are willing to help me with payments after I explained the situation and I am very lucky for that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 10:36:24 PM #23:	DaveRose316 posted... Quite a coincidence your psychiatrist was named Dr. Crane. Is his name Frasier or Niles? No idea but he was extremely short. I barely pass 5'8" but I towered over him. The psychiatrist before him was named Dr. Cheung or something like that. He was said to be extremely cold to patients. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942802253] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>DaveRose316 posted... </cite> <quote>Quite a coincidence your psychiatrist was named Dr. Crane. Is his name Frasier or Niles?</quote> No idea but he was extremely short. I barely pass 5'8" but I towered over him. The psychiatrist before him was named Dr. Cheung or something like that. He was said to be extremely cold to patients. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/30/20 10:36:35 PM #24:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... itll take me probably 6 months to regain that money it sucks in those months could face something financially bad happening again. that part would suck even more. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:942802265] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted...</cite> <quote>itll take me probably 6 months to regain that money</quote> it sucks in those months could face something financially bad happening again. that part would suck even more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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21WIVES_CHILL 07/30/20 10:48:05 PM #27:	You d9nt have health insurance? <cite>21WIVES_CHILL posted [p:942802679] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>You d9nt have health insurance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/30/20 11:24:22 PM #28:	tote_all posted... Did you believe that? Eh, not really but I went along with it. I figured it would be beneficial to get along with my roommate and it was. When he was leaving, he gave me some of his belongings such as a stress ball to bounce against the wall and some of his boxed food. tote_all posted... Wait so it was a 72 hour hold because you were allegedly suicidal? Why does that cost 10k, and why are people here expecting a 72 hour hold to be some miracle cure? Yes, but are 72 hour holds usually less than 10k for the medical bill? 21WIVES_CHILL posted... You d9nt have health insurance? My health insurance covered most of the $3,000 bill from my three hours of sitting in a bed at the public hospital before being transported to the psych ward. My health insurance should help with this $10,000 medical bill but I've had many problems with coverage before. Speaking of the $3,000 bill, the hospital staff, when asked, were unsure with one doctor saying I would have to pay the full amount. Thankfully, she was wrong. I think my luck is just really bad. As long as I'm not paying substantial for me out of pocket, everything should be okay. I'll just have to be extremely careful with my money from now on since no job for a while unless I decide to work at Amazon. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942803851] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>Did you believe that?</quote> Eh, not really but I went along with it. I figured it would be beneficial to get along with my roommate and it was. When he was leaving, he gave me some of his belongings such as a stress ball to bounce against the wall and some of his boxed food. tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>Wait so it was a 72 hour hold because you were allegedly suicidal? Why does that cost 10k, and why are people here expecting a 72 hour hold to be some miracle cure?</quote> Yes, but are 72 hour holds usually less than 10k for the medical bill? 21WIVES_CHILL posted... </cite> <quote>You d9nt have health insurance?</quote> My health insurance covered most of the $3,000 bill from my three hours of sitting in a bed at the public hospital before being transported to the psych ward. My health insurance should help with this $10,000 medical bill but I've had many problems with coverage before. Speaking of the $3,000 bill, the hospital staff, when asked, were unsure with one doctor saying I would have to pay the full amount. Thankfully, she was wrong. I think my luck is just really bad. As long as I'm not paying substantial for me out of pocket, everything should be okay. I'll just have to be extremely careful with my money from now on since no job for a while unless I decide to work at Amazon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 07/30/20 11:25:31 PM #29:	Medical bills should be invalidated if they take too long to arrive. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:942803892] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Medical bills should be invalidated if they take too long to arrive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 07/30/20 11:28:09 PM #30:	Calk them and tell them to bill your insurance --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:942803993] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Calk them and tell them to bill your insurance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Buzz Killjoy 07/30/20 11:37:35 PM #31:	Are you still allowed to own that pistol after the involuntary commitment? --- *Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?* <cite>Buzz Killjoy posted [p:942804293] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Are you still allowed to own that pistol after the involuntary commitment? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 07/31/20 1:58:20 AM #32:	Buzz Killjoy posted... Are you still allowed to own that pistol after the involuntary commitment? Yeah, I received it back from the police not too long later. Someone had to accompany me to the police department to pick it up. Hopefully, I won't ever need to use it. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942807745] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Buzz Killjoy posted... </cite> <quote>Are you still allowed to own that pistol after the involuntary commitment?</quote> Yeah, I received it back from the police not too long later. Someone had to accompany me to the police department to pick it up. Hopefully, I won't ever need to use it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/31/20 2:09:25 AM #33:	how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:942807944] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiegoSanchez206 07/31/20 8:46:42 AM #34:	AsucaHayashi posted... how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? Are you suggesting doctors who go to medical school and have years upon years of schooling and work shouldnt get more than like 75k a year? are you insane? --- https://tinyurl.com/y838ue3p https://youtu.be/IRqr8X6w6bo <cite>DiegoSanchez206 posted [p:942813954] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote>how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day?</quote> Are you suggesting doctors who go to medical school and have years upon years of schooling and work shouldnt get more than like 75k a year? are you insane? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 07/31/20 11:11:32 AM #35:	AsucaHayashi posted... how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? Doctors should make good money because they spend a long time being educated and learning an incredibly valuable and essential skill. They shouldn't be making "fuck you money" but they absolutely should be living quite comfortably and securely. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:942817990] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote>how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day?</quote> Doctors should make good money because they spend a long time being educated and learning an incredibly valuable and essential skill. They shouldn't be making "fuck you money" but they absolutely should be living quite comfortably and securely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/31/20 12:14:12 PM #36:	DiegoSanchez206 posted... Are you suggesting doctors who go to medical school and have years upon years of schooling and work shouldnt get more than like 75k a year? are you insane? you're asking the wrong question to the wrong person. what you should be asking is if TC thinks he got his $10000 worth and reaped the benefits of those "years of schooling and work" from his doctors. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:942820203] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>DiegoSanchez206 posted... </cite> <quote>Are you suggesting doctors who go to medical school and have years upon years of schooling and work shouldnt get more than like 75k a year? are you insane?</quote> you're asking the wrong question to the wrong person. what you should be asking is if TC thinks he got his $10000 worth and reaped the benefits of those "years of schooling and work" from his doctors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3PiesAndAFork 07/31/20 12:21:11 PM #37:	Doctors absolutely should be making a crap ton of money. The problem is most of that 10k is just pure profit for the institution he was admitted to. For profit medicine should not be a thing. --- "I could care less" means you care right now. The proper phrase is "I couldn't care less." <cite>3PiesAndAFork posted [p:942820471] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Doctors absolutely should be making a crap ton of money. The problem is most of that 10k is just pure profit for the institution he was admitted to. For profit medicine should not be a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_School 07/31/20 12:31:14 PM #38:	After my father tried to commit suicide he was committed for a month at a local psych ward. He was in a bad place but it was more of a single lapse in judgement during a manic episode rather than any sort of full blown psychosis. I just remember visiting him and him begging us to somehow get him out because "some of the people in here aren't safe to be around." At 17 years old it was the first time I can remember my father sounding genuinely scared. Im sorry you had to go through that experience. It sounds like it can be genuinely traumatic. --- Can't refute the substance of the post? Ad hominem! <cite>Blue_School posted [p:942820829] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>After my father tried to commit suicide he was committed for a month at a local psych ward. He was in a bad place but it was more of a single lapse in judgement during a manic episode rather than any sort of full blown psychosis. I just remember visiting him and him begging us to somehow get him out because "some of the people in here aren't safe to be around." At 17 years old it was the first time I can remember my father sounding genuinely scared. Im sorry you had to go through that experience. It sounds like it can be genuinely traumatic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 07/31/20 12:50:07 PM #40:	Been in the psych ward of hospitals three times over the last two years. Twice involuntarily and once voluntarily. All due to suicidal ideation or attempting to do so. I don't know why I did so even once voluntarily. Never going back. Literally any other option is better than going back. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:942821602] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Been in the psych ward of hospitals three times over the last two years. Twice involuntarily and once voluntarily. All due to suicidal ideation or attempting to do so. I don't know why I did so even once voluntarily. Never going back. Literally any other option is better than going back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/31/20 12:51:17 PM #41:	tote_all posted... You seem to be very confused and mixing a lot of different subjects here. lol yeah sure. i asked a specific question about one doctor and people are like "all doctors deserve their pay!" --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:942821640] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>tote_all posted... </cite> <quote>You seem to be very confused and mixing a lot of different subjects here.</quote> lol yeah sure. i asked a specific question about one doctor and people are like "all doctors deserve their pay!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 07/31/20 1:06:45 PM #42:	TC, it sucks that you're still having to deal with what was undoubtedly a horrible time for you. I ended up in a similar situation a few years back (although my experience in the hospital was much more pleasant than yours), and was left holding a $17k bill after my insurance refused to cover the rest of it. Exhaust all your appeal options with the insurance first, then check the facility's website for options. Lots of hospitals have financial assistance programs for lower income individuals - in my case I was able to get most of my bill written off. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:942822202] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>TC, it sucks that you're still having to deal with what was undoubtedly a horrible time for you. I ended up in a similar situation a few years back (although my experience in the hospital was much more pleasant than yours), and was left holding a $17k bill after my insurance refused to cover the rest of it. Exhaust all your appeal options with the insurance first, then check the facility's website for options. Lots of hospitals have financial assistance programs for lower income individuals - in my case I was able to get most of my bill written off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 07/31/20 1:12:28 PM #43:	pikachupwnage posted... AsucaHayashi posted... how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? Doctors should make good money because they spend a long time being educated and learning an incredibly valuable and essential skill. They shouldn't be making "fuck you money" but they absolutely should be living quite comfortably and securely. Doctors should make good money if they do their job properly. TC clearly didn't come away from this in a better position, so his doctor must not have done his job properly As someone who works on cars, should I still get paid if I send a car out of the shop in no better (or potentially worse) shape than when it came in? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:942822412] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote> how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day?</quote> Doctors should make good money because they spend a long time being educated and learning an incredibly valuable and essential skill. They shouldn't be making "fuck you money" but they absolutely should be living quite comfortably and securely. </quote> Doctors should make good money if they do their job properly. TC clearly didn't come away from this in a better position, so his doctor must not have done his job properly As someone who works on cars, should I still get paid if I send a car out of the shop in no better (or potentially worse) shape than when it came in?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/31/20 1:26:30 PM #44:	As somebody who worked in am inpatient mental health facility (pediatric though), I'm really sorry to hear you went through that - I don't know if it will make you feel better, but there definitely are better facilities out there. i still can't believe staff physically abused you... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:942822975] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>As somebody who worked in am inpatient mental health facility (pediatric though), I'm really sorry to hear you went through that - I don't know if it will make you feel better, but there definitely are better facilities out there. i still can't believe staff physically abused you... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bossdog421 07/31/20 1:26:54 PM #45:	Maybe you are still there. o.0 --- I don't have emotions & sometimes that makes me very sad. <cite>Bossdog421 posted [p:942822990] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>Maybe you are still there. o.0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 07/31/20 1:33:45 PM #46:	I just got a $1200 medical bill for a procedure my wife had done a few weeks ago that lasted maybe 20 minutes. Fuck yeah 'MERICA --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:942823217] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>I just got a $1200 medical bill for a procedure my wife had done a few weeks ago that lasted maybe 20 minutes. Fuck yeah 'MERICA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Scarecrow 07/31/20 11:13:04 PM #48:	AsucaHayashi posted... how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day? Its still my ultimate goal to enter the medical field in the pursuit of helping other people. If I were to become a doctor and I failed my patients due to incompetence or anything such, I would be incredibly disappointed in myself. I do not think that bill was worth the treatment for myself and others especially since many patients there were regulars. I think the psychiatrist I conversed with and some of the therapists did a very poor job. However, there are plenty of psychiatrists and therapists who do exceptional jobs. I wish I was in a situation where I could praise people like that. The free treatment I sought out had an amazing therapist. He went above and beyond for me even though I paid nothing for services. I know hes probably not getting paid a whole lot but its people like that in the medical field who deserve the high salaries. Ultimately, I do not think people should be paid well if they do poor jobs. It feels wrong knowing what I do know about these psych wards and not being able to do much about it. All I can do is spread awareness which doesnt amount to much at times. Hopefully, the U.S. can take more significant action regarding health care in general. Its a pipe dream, though. --- Batman's greatest villain. <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:942844695] in Just got a... [t:78882398]...</cite> <quote>AsucaHayashi posted... </cite> <quote>how does it feel knowing the doctors who "treated" you are probably pulling in six figures and living a life of luxury and do you dream of becoming like that one day?</quote> Its still my ultimate goal to enter the medical field in the pursuit of helping other people. If I were to become a doctor and I failed my patients due to incompetence or anything such, I would be incredibly disappointed in myself. I do not think that bill was worth the treatment for myself and others especially since many patients there were regulars. I think the psychiatrist I conversed with and some of the therapists did a very poor job. However, there are plenty of psychiatrists and therapists who do exceptional jobs. I wish I was in a situation where I could praise people like that. The free treatment I sought out had an amazing therapist. He went above and beyond for me even though I paid nothing for services. I know hes probably not getting paid a whole lot but its people like that in the medical field who deserve the high salaries. Ultimately, I do not think people should be paid well if they do poor jobs. It feels wrong knowing what I do know about these psych wards and not being able to do much about it. All I can do is spread awareness which doesnt amount to much at times. Hopefully, the U.S. can take more significant action regarding health care in general. Its a pipe dream, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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