Current Events > 103 dems, 188 republicans vote to continue predatory recruitment on Twitch

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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 7:49:40 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever
07/30/20 7:51:11 PM
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I knew people who joined the military cuz they loved CS and COD over 10 years ago. Nothing is gonna change that.

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voldothegr8
07/30/20 7:51:20 PM
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I don't understand
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monkmith
07/30/20 7:51:57 PM
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dont they still do recruitment drives in highschools? that's way more predatory.

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I Like Toast
07/30/20 7:52:02 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...


They're targeting gamers

Can you blame them? We're generally better people and have the most epic swim swims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2grlxmubrLM

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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 7:52:14 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
I knew people who joined the military cuz they loved CS and COD over 10 years ago. Nothing is gonna change that.

A little bit different than the US military using Twitch to recruit.
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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 7:52:47 PM
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monkmith posted...
dont they still do recruitment drives in highschools? that's way more predatory.

They both suck and should not be a thing lol
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Damn_Underscore
07/30/20 7:54:49 PM
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it wouldn't be fair for other countries if the US had a military full of gamers

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monkmith
07/30/20 7:55:22 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
They both suck and should not be a thing lol
you have to opt into twitch, in high school you're literally a captive audience.

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Southernfatman
07/30/20 7:56:19 PM
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Both parties love war and the military industrial complex. All that $$$$$$$.

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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 7:56:36 PM
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monkmith posted...
you have to opt into twitch, in high school you're literally a captive audience.


Smashingpmkns posted...
They both suck and should not be a thing lol

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Night_Lock9
07/30/20 7:59:08 PM
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It does make strategical sense to try and get the best performing competitive gamers to pilot their drones.

I've literally seen drone pilots use xbox controllers.
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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 7:59:57 PM
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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 8:01:31 PM
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Night_Lock9 posted...
It does make strategical sense to try and get the best performing competitive gamers to pilot their drones.

I've literally seen drone pilots use xbox controllers.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78878974

Maybe soon tanks too!
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evil_zombie11
07/31/20 4:25:45 AM
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monkmith posted...
dont they still do recruitment drives in highschools? that's way more predatory.

In high school (Im 28 now) I had to stand in front of class and the marines visiting asked me who my favorite hero was. I said Hmmmmm I think Batman is pretty cool. They looked disappointed and said no it should be us lolololololol.

im like >_>

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OwlRammer
07/31/20 4:50:56 AM
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I thought they wanted to ban video games for making kids too violent? I guess they want them to turn violent and put them in the army after now

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Lorenzo_2003
07/31/20 4:57:20 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
They both suck and should not be a thing lol

What?

Schools should have some time and space set aside for reps of any career to talk to students about potential employment. A lot of high school seniors are looking for a job, or at least something to do after high school, but dont know whom to talk to or whats even available. This is reality.

To make it palatable for the easily offended, the school just has to ensure that it is completely optional for students to participate or not.

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armandro
07/31/20 5:14:26 AM
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just dont join okey?

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Lonestar2000
07/31/20 5:14:41 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
What?

Schools should have some time and space set aside for reps of any career to talk to students about potential employment. A lot of high school seniors are looking for a job, or at least something to do after high school, but dont know whom to talk to or whats even available. This is reality.

To make it palatable for the easily offended, the school just has to ensure that it is completely optional for students to participate or not.
Nah, fuck the US military.

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Steelix500
07/31/20 6:44:27 AM
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I don't think its even a bad thing. You gotta understand most of these kids won't ever walk into a recruiting office. Those who do you're gonna have a bunch who either end up getting cold feet and don't enlist or they get disqualified at MEPS or reception in basic training.

A career in the military is actually a pretty good deal. There are plenty of non-combat related jobs that you can get certified for so when you get out you have something to show for your service to potential employers. Some jobs even offer bonuses ( highest I've seen is $40k for some cyber security job).

You get to travel around the US or get sent overseas, best part is that you're getting paid for it at no cost to you.

You get health insurance, life insurance, your cost of living (housing/ food) is paid by the military and you get free college through tuition assistance and other programs like GI, 9/11 and Montgomery bills.

I think too many people write off the military as a viable option. Yeah theres shit bag recruiters it fucking happens but you shouldn't let that stop you. Especially in this day and age when you can research online or talk to current Service Members on reddit if you're not sure about something.

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Lonestar2000
07/31/20 3:10:23 PM
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Steelix500 posted...
I don't think its even a bad thing. You gotta understand most of these kids won't ever walk into a recruiting office. Those who do you're gonna have a bunch who either end up getting cold feet and don't enlist or they get disqualified at MEPS or reception in basic training.

A career in the military is actually a pretty good deal. There are plenty of non-combat related jobs that you can get certified for so when you get out you have something to show for your service to potential employers. Some jobs even offer bonuses ( highest I've seen is $40k for some cyber security job).

You get to travel around the US or get sent overseas, best part is that you're getting paid for it at no cost to you.

You get health insurance, life insurance, your cost of living (housing/ food) is paid by the military and you get free college through tuition assistance and other programs like GI, 9/11 and Montgomery bills.

I think too many people write off the military as a viable option. Yeah theres shit bag recruiters it fucking happens but you shouldn't let that stop you. Especially in this day and age when you can research online or talk to current Service Members on reddit if you're not sure about something.
Yeah but you are still supporting an organization that kills people for profit.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:12:58 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Yeah but you are still supporting an organization that kills people for profit.

does putin pay you to do his work for him or are you doing it for free?
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HiddenRoar
07/31/20 3:18:26 PM
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Another L for Ocasio-bighead
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:18:35 PM
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also it's weird to get rebuffed by both Republicans and Democrats like this and not question yourself even a little

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqZ2PPOLik
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2SweetforTurtle
07/31/20 3:20:47 PM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Yeah but you are still supporting an organization that kills people for profit.

Voluntarily. Thats the point. You only serve if you acknowledge that at the end of the day, the burger patties that youre flipping are ultimately a step leading to bad guys dying.

If you have an issue with that, dont join, nobody is forcing you to.

There are a lot of fucky issues with Recruiters outright screwing people over, jobs that dont translate well into the real world, and ultimately a very poor veterans care system in the country. So thats something you have to weigh before joining.

But I ultimately joined knowing that I could get a skill that would be useful in the real world and never have to have gotten into debt because of college. I did my time and am now a happy civilian again making way more money than anyone in my family.

The military is a valid option if you weigh all of the pros/cons and how theyre all relevant to you and your future.

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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 3:37:21 PM
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Supporting grooming 13 year olds for the military is weird tbh
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:39:26 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Supporting grooming 13 year olds for the military is weird tbh

well when you frame it that dishonestly of course it's going to look bad
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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 3:41:11 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Supporting grooming 13 year olds for the military is weird tbh

well when you frame it that dishonestly of course it's going to look bad

How is it dishonest when that's exactly what is happening on Twitch and in high school programs like JROTC?
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:42:39 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
How is it dishonest when that's exactly what is happening on Twitch and in high school programs like JROTC?

You have to be 18 to join the military and contrary to whatever you think it is, it's not a street gang. Stop saying "grooming" like it's a child sex ring.
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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 3:45:02 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
How is it dishonest when that's exactly what is happening on Twitch and in high school programs like JROTC?

You have to be 18 to join the military and contrary to whatever you think it is, it's not a street gang. Stop saying "grooming" like it's a child sex ring.

And they groom them from a young age in order to recruit them lol that's exactly what they do.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:46:43 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
And they groom them from a young age in order to recruit them lol that's exactly what they do.

Labeling any recruitment program from an employer as grooming because i'm very normal and not just irrationally anti-military :^)
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thronedfire2
07/31/20 3:47:42 PM
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lol

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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 3:48:33 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
And they groom them from a young age in order to recruit them lol that's exactly what they do.

Labeling any recruitment program from an employer as grooming because i'm very normal and not just irrationally anti-military :^)

Grooming doesn't only pertain to child sex trafficking limited vocab Stalin. Also most jobs don't start the process of recruiting at 13
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:51:38 PM
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where are you even getting the 13 number from lmao
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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 3:54:49 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
where are you even getting the 13 number from lmao

Average audience of Twitch is 13 - 17, 13 year olds can join JROTC.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 3:58:43 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Average audience of Twitch is 13 - 17,

do you have a source for this?
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 4:22:38 PM
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I'm gonna interrupt your total silence by pointing out the typical Twitch viewer is above 18:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitch_(service)#Content_and_audience

You pulled your statistic out of your ass to defend your irrational hatred of the military and ridiculous belief that they shouldn't be allowed to recruit at all.

Next time when your clueless cult leader gets rebuffed by everyone in congress try being a little more critical of her.
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Shablagoo
07/31/20 4:26:49 PM
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^Yeah the leaders of our country are sure proving how capable they are right now, best to trust them on any and everything, especially when it comes to their thoughts on funding and permitting the endless war machine.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 4:28:15 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
^Yeah the leaders of our country are sure proving how capable they are right now, best to trust them on any and everything, especially when it comes to their thoughts on funding and permitting the endless war machine.

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K181
07/31/20 4:28:30 PM
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I personally don't see an issue with an explicitly identified recruitment platform using a popular site as a recruitment tool. Nobody's forcing viewers to watch Army streams.

If they obfuscate the fact that they're affiliated or employed by the DoD though, that absolutely should not be kosher.

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DespondentDeity
07/31/20 4:29:09 PM
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Fuck the military, fuck the soldiers.

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ScazarMeltex
07/31/20 4:29:22 PM
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This is just a continuation of the military using poverty as it's chief recruiting tool.

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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 4:32:44 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This is just a continuation of the military using poverty as it's chief recruiting tool.

most recruits in the military come from middle or upper-middle class families please try again
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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/31/20 4:37:27 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
most recruits in the military come from middle or upper-middle class families please try again
source?

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Smashingpmkns
07/31/20 4:38:01 PM
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Lmao I was driving. Your source is from 2012 btw. Either way, Twitch doesn't advertise their stats for users under 18 for some reason. Looked all over all of their affiliated stats sites, their advertising stats on their own site. Nothing under 18. Seems weird for a site that's minimum age requirement is 13. So did some digging, why is it that the games (Minecraft, Fortnite, COD kinda, LoL) who's target audience is 13-17 aren't being represented in their data even though those are the games breaking record number streams? Weird! Anyways, I got it from an article I read yesterday

Regardless, never said the military shouldn't recruit. I said they shouldn't groom children into the recruitment process and shouldn't use predatory Tactics. Willing to forego that twitch stat seeing as how the JROTC programs accept 13 year olds, something you gave up discussing for some reason. And those programs also are prevalent at schools in lower income communities with a higher average minority population.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/31/20 4:48:21 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Twitch doesn't advertise their stats for users under 18 for some reaso

...if the vast majority of their users are above 18 then you have your stats on children, they're a small minority. You're literally claiming that the military advertising themselves on any platform that a single child might use is "grooming".

Smashingpmkns posted...
why is it that the games (Minecraft, Fortnite, COD kinda, LoL) who's target audience is 13-17

You're pulling statistics out of your ass again.
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Shablagoo
07/31/20 4:48:34 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
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Boldfaced McCarthyism, eh? I wish I could say I was surprised to see something like that coming from you.

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Hop103
07/31/20 4:52:46 PM
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To AOC:

Toe party lines, America doesn't want a DSA future.

The military has the right to recruit on Twitch, if you don't want to join then don't.
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