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Tmaster148 07/27/20 11:50:49 AM #1: |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa
Donald Trump has made warnings about the threat of antifa and far-left fascism a central part of his re-election campaign. But in reality leftwing attacks have left far fewer people dead than violence by rightwing extremists, new research indicates, and antifa activists have not been linked to a single murder in decades. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 11:50:56 AM #2: |
Given the discrepancies between the deadly toll of leftwing and rightwing violence, American law enforcement agencies have long faced criticism for failing to take the threat of white supremacist violence seriously, while at the same time overstating the risks posed by leftwing protesters. After a violent rally in California in 2016, law enforcement officers worked with neo-Nazis to build criminal cases against anti-fascist protesters, while not recommending charges against neo-Nazis for stabbing the anti-fascists. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 07/27/20 11:52:35 AM #3: |
On the bright side, anyone who calls out antifa as some dangerous organization outs themselves as a liar and an idiot.
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ChrisTaka 07/27/20 11:53:24 AM #4: |
There's a storm brewing.
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Reiss 07/27/20 11:54:44 AM #5: |
yeah but Fox News told me otherwise so idc
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NinjaWarrior455 07/27/20 11:55:25 AM #6: |
Wow I'm shocked. Absolutely.
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RedJackson 07/27/20 11:59:08 AM #7: |
Guide posted...
On the bright side, anyone who calls out antifa as some dangerous organization outs themselves as a liar and an idiot. Oh shut the hell up Antifa is a joke, I say this as someone who voted democrat - they dont stand for anything besides me, me, me The worst thing you can do to a great cause is paint it in a bad light and thats what these fools succeed in doing.. its not BLM, its not Latinos against cages, its not LGBTQ against bias.. its a bunch of would be protesters aiming their anger at absolutely nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 11:59:15 AM #8: |
Not reading the whole thing, but the report used as a source is very...lacking in sources itself. And it's biased from the offset.
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DirkDiggles 07/27/20 12:00:09 PM #9: |
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 12:01:06 PM #10: |
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ThunderTrain 07/27/20 12:01:14 PM #11: |
They're a terrorist group but groups that actually terrorize others are "fine people" according to the president.
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Tyranthraxus 07/27/20 12:02:36 PM #12: |
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RebelElite791 07/27/20 12:05:45 PM #14: |
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i really would like to see someone explain the logic in why antifa is worse than nazis/white supremacists.Nazis arent a problem in the US and antifa are rampaging through the streets attacking anyone who isnt far left --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 12:07:21 PM #15: |
Alright, did a little research and a tiny bit more in-depth reading myself. That report is just...HEAVILY specific. Like, ridiculously specific, to make it's point. And the article is taking that, and twisting it to fit a different point.
The report is based on terrorist attacks specifically. The article is just saying 'the left is always innocent'. For fucks sake, I can find a death linked to the right in a quick google search: "Last January, Charles Landeros, 30, wearing a "Smash the patriarchy" t-shirt, went to his daughter's middle school in Eugene, Oregon, to discuss a custody dispute. When asked by two school resource officers to leave the building, Charles refused. They attempted to place him under arrest, and he pulled out a handgun and fired two rounds at them. He missed and was killed by returning gunfire from one of the officers. Charles' daughter was feet away. Authorities later found Landeros was carrying an extra magazine on his belt." Still a murder, still linked to the left. Eh. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 07/27/20 12:09:05 PM #16: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Alright, did a little research and a tiny bit more in-depth reading myself. That report is just...HEAVILY specific. Like, ridiculously specific, to make it's point. And the article is taking that, and twisting it to fit a different point.That is not an ideologically motivated murder. God who the fuck even are you and why did you decide to pop up and shitpost nonstop here --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 12:09:49 PM #18: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Alright, did a little research and a tiny bit more in-depth reading myself. That report is just...HEAVILY specific. Like, ridiculously specific, to make it's point. And the article is taking that, and twisting it to fit a different point. Your example isn't an example of a left wing attack. There's no political motive. But you are a prime example of feelings over facts. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 07/27/20 12:09:51 PM #19: |
Fascism isnt even a left ideology, right is. There is no such thing as far left fascism
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Tyranthraxus 07/27/20 12:10:47 PM #20: |
RebelElite791 posted...
That is not an ideologically motivated murder. God who the fuck even are you and why did you decide to pop up and shitpost nonstop here Also I don't really think we should count dying from extreme stupidity as murder. Who was the murderer? He murdered himself? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 07/27/20 12:10:53 PM #21: |
Interesting that when it benefits Antifa, it's not a real organization and everyone who is anti fascist is Antifa, but when it comes to murders, somehow any murderers who are against fascism don't count as Antifa.
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 12:12:18 PM #22: |
RebelElite791 posted...
More just nitpicking the vague and awful title lol. "Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years" is just wrong af. Sorry. Tmaster148 posted...
Says the guy that whines in topics about a video game characrer regardless of what the topic is about. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 12:14:35 PM #23: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Says the guy that whines in topics about a video game characrer regardless of what the topic is about. I'm sorry my posts about a video game character on a different board make you butthurt enough to support fascism. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 12:16:22 PM #25: |
CrimsonRage posted...
No. Because it's just a straight faced lie. Like...it's just wrong. Tmaster148 posted...
I don't support anything, especially not your constant whining. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 12:16:54 PM #26: |
Slayer_22 posted...
I don't support anything, especially not your constant whining. The only person whining here is you. Maybe you should stop projecting. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 12:17:49 PM #27: |
Tmaster148 posted...
You're the one that whines in every topic. I'm sorry that I don't blindly agree with your crying. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 12:18:32 PM #28: |
Slayer_22 posted...
You're the one that whines in every topic. I'm sorry that I don't blindly agree with your crying. It's funny how much you are melting down over my thoughts on a video game character in a topic not about that video game character. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 07/27/20 12:20:36 PM #29: |
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Guide 07/27/20 12:33:40 PM #31: |
Slayer_22 posted...
You have yet to provide any evidence to your claim. The case you link shows no political motivation, but you've dodged acknowledging that. Certainly looking like a "feelings over facts" poster. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 07/27/20 12:35:47 PM #32: |
Even if you could link 1-2 murders, it's still nothing compared to right wing extremists' numbers,
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MrMallard 07/27/20 3:38:55 PM #35: |
Slayer_22 posted...
No. Because it's just a straight faced lie. Like...it's just wrong. But is that based on facts and figures, it is it a gut/emotional reaction? Is there a source for what you're saying, or are you personally convinced of this being the case with no evidence to back it up? --- Are you proud to be a Mayonnaise American? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 07/27/20 6:26:10 PM #36: |
@Slayer_22 will not come back to this, because he can't back it up.
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LightningAce11 07/27/20 6:27:34 PM #37: |
I strongly feel that right wing and conservative media exaggerates anything antifa does. Wouldn't be surprised if it was really like 20 people not hurting anyone.
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nfearurspecimn 07/27/20 6:28:41 PM #38: |
that's really cool
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iPhone_7 07/27/20 6:41:07 PM #39: |
Liberals shouldnt be too dismissive of the Right portraying Antifa as the boogeyman. Its a good scapegoat for whenever protests get out of hand.
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ThyCorndog 07/27/20 6:43:20 PM #40: |
but muh milkshakes
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Antifar 07/27/20 6:46:41 PM #41: |
Matthew McConaughey Those Are Rookie Numbers Wolf of Wall Street dot gif
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creativerealms 07/27/20 6:49:38 PM #42: |
Knew it.
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Zeeak4444 07/27/20 7:03:50 PM #43: |
Damn wheres all the usuals?
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Gobstoppers12 07/27/20 7:12:30 PM #45: |
Since you tagged me:
1.) Nazis and White Supremacists are bad, too. 2.) The fact that there aren't any murders (according to the source) linked directly to self-proclaimed Antifa members doesn't absolve Antifa of all the bike locks, bricks, eggs, milkshakes, etc. thrown at people. Or the arson and rioting. Property damage. They're not saints just because they technically haven't murdered anybody. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 07/27/20 7:20:09 PM #46: |
MaxEffingBemis posted...
Fascism isnt even a left ideology, right is. There is no such thing as far left fascism National Bolshevism (Nazbols), but fortunately they don't have a base in the US and aren't as immediate of a threat as far right fascist groups like Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, Atomwaffen, etc. On topic, the argument is and has always been Antifa hasn't killed anyone in the name of their ideology. There's that dude in Oregon (literally the only instance chuds seem to reference) but the motive wasn't linked to antifascist ideology. Honestly y'all should be surprised antifascists haven't spilled blood considering how much violence is directed at them. Fortunately murder isn't exactly a leftist tactic here. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 7:43:32 PM #47: |
Guide posted...
It says "anti-fascists" not "anti-fascists related murders". The title is misleading, and I'm not willing to go through years and years of murders just to find a specific one related to it, because I don't really care enough about this. My point, as it has been from the beginning, is that the title of the article is incorrect(and the report itself is highly unsourced), and that is despite twisting the subject to it's point. It's borderline clickbait. RedWhiteBlue posted... Or, concede that neo nazi fascists are the ones causing the problems. They are causing murders, anyone could see that lol. Fuck those scumbags regardless of anything, I hope they rot. Guide posted... @Slayer_22 will not come back to this, because he can't back it up. I was working. Sorry I don't obsess over the site for hours at a time. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 7:45:08 PM #48: |
Slayer_22 posted...
and I'm not willing to go through years and years of murders just to find a specific one related to it, So basically it doesn't exist. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 07/27/20 7:47:42 PM #49: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Might not. I'm just saying I'm not going through it. But I gotta say, it's pretty silly to trust an unsourced report that starts with a biased statement. --- livingdeadrpg.proboards.com "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/20 7:48:38 PM #50: |
Slayer_22 posted...
Might not. I'm just saying I'm not going through it. But I gotta say, it's pretty silly to trust an unsourced report that starts with a biased statement. I'm sure you feel that the first statement is bias. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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