Poll of the Day > Who was the Indigo League champion before Blue

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papercup
07/17/20 10:30:58 PM
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I want to say it was Lance, but he's an elite four. So if he was demoted from champ to elite four right before you got there, who was the member that was kicked out to make room for Lance?

Also Blue was only champion for 5 minutes lol

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MartianManchild
07/17/20 10:33:30 PM
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Professor Oak
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faramir77
07/17/20 10:34:32 PM
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I was always under the impression that it was just the Elite Four. I think Lance says something like "you're now the Champion! ...or, at least, you would have been if you were just a bit earlier."

The original idea was that the fifth battle was a surprise, they only ever mention the Elite Four.

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Judgmenl
07/17/20 10:35:45 PM
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afaik nothing in the Gen 1 source code leak implies any information on this.


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papercup
07/17/20 10:44:02 PM
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faramir77 posted...
I was always under the impression that it was just the Elite Four. I think Lance says something like "you're now the Champion! ...or, at least, you would have been if you were just a bit earlier."

The original idea was that the fifth battle was a surprise, they only ever mention the Elite Four.

Oh that makes sense I guess. Make Blue the first and last guy you fight, but keep the last fight a secret.

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Zeus
07/18/20 5:24:41 AM
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I would assume that the spot was either vacant or it was Lance because Lance is the GSC champ. Given that Blue was champ for 5 minutes, the previous champ couldn't have gotten far so the fact that we don't see him suggests either a vacancy or Lance.

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Kimbos_Egg
07/18/20 5:25:48 AM
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lance
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Metalsonic66
07/18/20 10:28:53 AM
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As soon as Blue beat Lance, it bumped one of the other four off the team.

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Shadowbird_RH
07/18/20 10:36:08 AM
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I think I heard somewhere, NPC chatter possibly, that Koga was previously of the Elite Four.

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papercup
07/18/20 10:39:02 AM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
I think I heard somewhere, NPC chatter possibly, that Koga was previously of the Elite Four.

Oh interesting. Koga actually is an Elite Four in gen 2.

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Metalsonic66
07/18/20 10:44:10 AM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
I think I heard somewhere, NPC chatter possibly, that Koga was previously of the Elite Four.
Not until second gen. He was just a gym leader in RBY

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papercup
07/18/20 10:45:08 AM
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Also Lance is the champion in gen 2. But this is like 2 or 3 years after gen 1.

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Shadowbird_RH
07/18/20 11:14:05 AM
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papercup posted...
Oh interesting. Koga actually is an Elite Four in gen 2.
Ah, that was probably it. My head reversed the flow of time. Probably safe to disregard my earlier statement.

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JOExHIGASHI
07/18/20 11:32:47 AM
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Maybe there are multiple champions. Anyone that defeats the elite 4 is a champion.

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BlackScythe0
07/18/20 12:46:23 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
Professor Oak

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jbomb1234
07/18/20 12:48:48 PM
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It was me, DIO!

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faramir77
07/18/20 1:58:49 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Maybe there are multiple champions. Anyone that defeats the elite 4 is a champion.

The real Champion was the memories we made along the way

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Unbridled9
07/18/20 2:03:46 PM
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There are implications it was Oak, but that doesn't make any sense since Gary became champion but lost it before Oak could arrive to congratulate him. Oak may have been one prior but he isn't the one whom Gary dethroned. Going by the dialogue and everything there was no champion prior to Gary so it's possible that the prior one retired or abdicated for some other reason.

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Miroku_of_Nite1
07/18/20 2:03:58 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Maybe there are multiple champions. Anyone that defeats the elite 4 is a champion.

Probably. Blue just happened to be there and wanted a challenge when he heard you were there.

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Phantom_Nook
07/18/20 2:28:35 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
There are implications it was Oak, but that doesn't make any sense since Gary became champion but lost it before Oak could arrive to congratulate him. Oak may have been one prior but he isn't the one whom Gary dethroned. Going by the dialogue and everything there was no champion prior to Gary so it's possible that the prior one retired or abdicated for some other reason.
it's also possible that Gary was the first challenger to beat the Elite Four, making him the first Champion.

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OHJOY90
07/18/20 2:30:40 PM
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I was under the impression there wasn't a champion before Blue.

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Unbridled9
07/18/20 8:24:32 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
it's also possible that Gary was the first challenger to beat the Elite Four, making him the first Champion.

Then wouldn't Lance be the champion? I mean the gym systems been clearly around for at least a bit (long enough for Viridian City to both get a leader and fall into disrepair) so it's clearly not 'new'. It's possible that, with Giovanni leaving the gym there haven't been challengers for a while since no one could get eight badges and they were looking for a replacement. But that doesn't change that there were people before...

Seems far more likely that the prior champ just abdicated or was removed. Here's a crazy idea, what if it was because of Team Rocket? Like either they had ties to Rocket or, alternatively, were pressured to resign by them?

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