Current Events > Why is there a Confederate Flag in this Billy Idol video? He's English.

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BeyondWalls 07/09/20 8:56:01 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PinBVYKQGeM Starting at like 1:30. I think the English have been fanning American racial tension since the 80s. Probably to undermine our government. Anyway... #cancelbilly --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941906273] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PinBVYKQGeM Starting at like 1:30. I think the English have been fanning American racial tension since the 80s. Probably to undermine our government. Anyway... #cancelbilly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dreamscissors 07/09/20 8:57:56 PM #2:	I didn't know Billy Idol was English. --- p-m <cite>Dreamscissors posted [p:941906361] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>I didn't know Billy Idol was English. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jackgunney 07/09/20 8:59:00 PM #3:	Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then --- Rip Sig 20??-20?? <cite>jackgunney posted [p:941906399] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 07/09/20 9:00:06 PM #4:	Are we canceling him? --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:941906450] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Are we canceling him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 9:05:00 PM #5:	jackgunney posted... Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then Actually this video was made in 1987. But 1982 was before the Civil War? --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941906657] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>jackgunney posted... </cite> <quote>Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then</quote>Actually this video was made in 1987. But 1982 was before the Civil War? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 9:07:35 PM #6:	Dreamscissors posted... I didn't know Billy Idol was English. Did Spike on Buffy The Vampire Slayer strike you as American? --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941906765] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Dreamscissors posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't know Billy Idol was English.</quote>Did Spike on Buffy The Vampire Slayer strike you as American? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/09/20 9:09:13 PM #7:	jackgunney posted... Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then It has been a big deal many black people for a long ass time. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:941906831] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>jackgunney posted... </cite> <quote>Song was written in 1982, it wasn't a big deal back then</quote> It has been a big deal many black people for a long ass time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 9:17:17 PM #8:	The rabbit hole goes deep, CE. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941907160] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote> The rabbit hole goes deep, CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 07/09/20 9:25:04 PM #9:	Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:941907493] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 9:28:20 PM #10:	BignutzisBack posted... Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy So it's cool to use it if people don't care about the Confederacy? --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941907646] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy</quote>So it's cool to use it if people don't care about the Confederacy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 07/09/20 9:28:57 PM #11:	BeyondWalls posted... So it's cool to use it if people don't care about the Confederacy? If you make a classic like "rebel yell" you deserve to be cut some slack --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:941907678] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>So it's cool to use it if people don't care about the Confederacy?</quote> If you make a classic like "rebel yell" you deserve to be cut some slack </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kajagogo 07/09/20 9:32:11 PM #12:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOTURU0dmns --- By Grabthar's Hammer....what a savings. <cite>Kajagogo posted [p:941907813] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOTURU0dmns </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodyarts 07/09/20 9:32:28 PM #13:	I'm willing to believe he just thought it was a "rebel flag" without going much deeper than that. <cite>bloodyarts posted [p:941907830] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>I'm willing to believe he just thought it was a "rebel flag" without going much deeper than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 07/09/20 9:34:19 PM #14:	BignutzisBack posted... Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy This. I think it's because he had a punk thing going and he was also marketed to the US. It was fashionable in some punk circles to wear nazi regalia during the 80s in the UK punk scene. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:941907893] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BignutzisBack posted... </cite> <quote>Billy idol has a hard-on for anything that is associated with rebellion, I doubt he gives a shit about the Confederacy</quote> This. I think it's because he had a punk thing going and he was also marketed to the US. It was fashionable in some punk circles to wear nazi regalia during the 80s in the UK punk scene. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 07/09/20 9:35:03 PM #15:	Fake ass punk lol --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:941907929] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Fake ass punk lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Elmer_Glue 07/09/20 9:36:11 PM #16:	1982 was pre-social media, so it didn't matter. Go back to Twitter TC. <cite>Elmer_Glue posted [p:941907965] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>1982 was pre-social media, so it didn't matter. Go back to Twitter TC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 9:38:05 PM #17:	bloodyarts posted... I'm willing to believe he just thought it was a "rebel flag" without going much deeper than that. Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it.... --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941908040] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>bloodyarts posted... </cite> <quote>I'm willing to believe he just thought it was a "rebel flag" without going much deeper than that.</quote> Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 07/09/20 9:56:38 PM #18:	BeyondWalls posted... Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it.... That's a good point. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:941908812] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it....</quote> That's a good point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/09/20 10:05:46 PM #19:	What's worse is that, in the UK, it's a white supremacist symbol. I mean, it is in the US. But some people pretend it's not. Over there, it's straight up the replacement for the Swastika. --- 2020 going to be a CE kind of year ~ Panthera <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:941909142] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>What's worse is that, in the UK, it's a white supremacist symbol. I mean, it is in the US. But some people pretend it's not. Over there, it's straight up the replacement for the Swastika. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dreamscissors 07/09/20 10:44:59 PM #20:	My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place. It's very strange. They also have a lot of native american images so I wonder if they're just clueless about the implications of confederate flag. --- p-m <cite>Dreamscissors posted [p:941910635] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place. It's very strange. They also have a lot of native american images so I wonder if they're just clueless about the implications of confederate flag. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 07/09/20 10:51:04 PM #21:	Yikes woke woke yall yall folks ilk! --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L <cite>Middle hope posted [p:941910852] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Yikes woke woke yall yall folks ilk! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:15:38 PM #22:	Dreamscissors posted... My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place. What? Why? You gotta knock on their door and ask them why. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941911741] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Dreamscissors posted... </cite> <quote>My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place.</quote>What? Why? You gotta knock on their door and ask them why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wii_Shaker 07/09/20 11:18:08 PM #23:	Dreamscissors posted... My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place. It's very strange. They also have a lot of native american images so I wonder if they're just clueless about the implications of confederate flag. I'm curious as to what sort of Native American images. That is very bizarre as the rebel flag and Native American symbolism don't share much common ground. --- "He busted in, blessed be the Lord Who believe any mess they read up on a message board" -MF DOOM <cite>Wii_Shaker posted [p:941911822] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Dreamscissors posted... </cite> <quote>My new neighbours (in England) have confederate flags all over the place. It's very strange. They also have a lot of native american images so I wonder if they're just clueless about the implications of confederate flag.</quote>I'm curious as to what sort of Native American images. That is very bizarre as the rebel flag and Native American symbolism don't share much common ground. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:20:06 PM #25:	CloneTheHero posted... were influenced by american music specifically blues which was prominent in the south who were mostly black, so.... --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941911910] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>CloneTheHero posted... </cite> <quote>were influenced by american music specifically blues which was prominent in the south</quote>who were mostly black, so.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodyarts 07/09/20 11:26:47 PM #26:	BeyondWalls posted... Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it.... Holy shit... <cite>bloodyarts posted [p:941912147] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Uh... he knew enough to put Elvis on it.... </quote>Holy shit... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dreamscissors 07/09/20 11:29:54 PM #27:	Wii_Shaker posted... I'm curious as to what sort of Native American images. That is very bizarre as the rebel flag and Native American symbolism don't share much common ground. Typical pictures of native american chiefs from what I've seen on their car and caravan. Random pictures of horses, confederate flags and eagles. Then they were drying a towel with a confederate flag and skull on --- p-m <cite>Dreamscissors posted [p:941912251] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Wii_Shaker posted... </cite> <quote>I'm curious as to what sort of Native American images. That is very bizarre as the rebel flag and Native American symbolism don't share much common ground.</quote>Typical pictures of native american chiefs from what I've seen on their car and caravan. Random pictures of horses, confederate flags and eagles. Then they were drying a towel with a confederate flag and skull on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:35:19 PM #29:	Dreamscissors posted... Typical pictures of native american chiefs from what I've seen on their car On their car? What the hell is going on over there? I live next to a Cherokee casino and even I've not seen American Chiefs on anybody's car. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Elvis only got the job because he sounded black and record producers were too racist to promote an actual black man. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941912440] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Dreamscissors posted... </cite> <quote>Typical pictures of native american chiefs from what I've seen on their car</quote>On their car? What the hell is going on over there? I live next to a Cherokee casino and even I've not seen American Chiefs on anybody's car. <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Elvis only got the job because he sounded black and record producers were too racist to promote an actual black man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:36:28 PM #30:	"Dear black blues singers of the South, I'm going to honor your contributions to music... with this big ole Confederate Flag!" --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941912482] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>"Dear black blues singers of the South, I'm going to honor your contributions to music... with this big ole Confederate Flag!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 07/09/20 11:41:10 PM #32:	White people didn't have to pay attention, they weren't the ones being harassed by the people who waved them around. A lot of it went unnoticed by the white community. The internet connected a lot of people who normally would be ignorant to others. It's just too bad some people's insecurities make them double down instead. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941912634] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>White people didn't have to pay attention, they weren't the ones being harassed by the people who waved them around. A lot of it went unnoticed by the white community. The internet connected a lot of people who normally would be ignorant to others. It's just too bad some people's insecurities make them double down instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 07/09/20 11:41:44 PM #33:	CloneTheHero posted... true but that doesnt take away from the fact that elvis was a star and influenced a shit ton of people, the man were sitting here talking about billy idol being one of them. It very much does lol. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941912648] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>CloneTheHero posted... </cite> <quote>true but that doesnt take away from the fact that elvis was a star and influenced a shit ton of people, the man were sitting here talking about billy idol being one of them.</quote> It very much does lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 07/09/20 11:46:22 PM #35:	So if I stole a story you told me, turned it into a book and got rich off it, taking all the credit. That doesn't take anything away from me? God damn you must have low standards for who you respect. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941912794] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>So if I stole a story you told me, turned it into a book and got rich off it, taking all the credit. That doesn't take anything away from me? God damn you must have low standards for who you respect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fhqwhgads 07/09/20 11:48:31 PM #36:	Yall don't know what a rebel yell is? --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger <cite>fhqwhgads posted [p:941912852] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Yall don't know what a rebel yell is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 07/09/20 11:50:34 PM #37:	fhqwhgads posted... Yall don't know what a rebel yell is? They probably don't even know a Wilhelm scream --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:941912913] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>fhqwhgads posted... </cite> <quote>Yall don't know what a rebel yell is?</quote>They probably don't even know a Wilhelm scream </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fhqwhgads 07/09/20 11:50:54 PM #38:	inloveanddeath0 posted... They probably don't even know a Wilhelm scream Smh --- Everybody to the Limit you can't bxzwlads the fhqwhgads~spudger <cite>fhqwhgads posted [p:941912923] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>inloveanddeath0 posted... </cite> <quote>They probably don't even know a Wilhelm scream</quote>Smh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:53:24 PM #39:	fhqwhgads posted... Yall don't know what a rebel yell is? Yeah, but the irony is that the Rebel Yell video has no Confederate Flags. But Hot in the City does. So if Billy has some internal logic here, I'm not seeing it. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941913002] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>fhqwhgads posted... </cite> <quote>Yall don't know what a rebel yell is?</quote> Yeah, but the irony is that the Rebel Yell video has no Confederate Flags. But Hot in the City does. So if Billy has some internal logic here, I'm not seeing it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HagenEx 07/09/20 11:54:22 PM #40:	For the same reason GG Allin went to shows wearing a fucking Nazi germany army helmet. It's just an accessory that's used to portray some sort of feeling of rebellion or uprising, nothing else. --- Not changing this sig until The Big Dawg Roman Reigns beats cancer and wins back the Universal Title. Belee Dat! <cite>HagenEx posted [p:941913037] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>For the same reason GG Allin went to shows wearing a fucking Nazi germany army helmet. It's just an accessory that's used to portray some sort of feeling of rebellion or uprising, nothing else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 07/09/20 11:57:38 PM #41:	Brings a whole new meaning to the song white wedding <cite>Poop2 posted [p:941913138] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Brings a whole new meaning to the song white wedding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/09/20 11:58:14 PM #42:	HagenEx posted... For the same reason GG Allin went to shows wearing a fucking Nazi germany army helmet. It's just an accessory that's used to portray some sort of feeling of rebellion or uprising, nothing else. So people are cool when Billy Idol does this. But if Joe down the street wears a Confederate Flag belt buckle then he's a racist? But not Billy, cause reasons? I mean, cancel Dukes of Hazard. But if Billy has a Confederate Flag guitar then clearly he's honoring the blues singers of the South. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941913158] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>HagenEx posted... </cite> <quote>For the same reason GG Allin went to shows wearing a fucking Nazi germany army helmet. It's just an accessory that's used to portray some sort of feeling of rebellion or uprising, nothing else.</quote> So people are cool when Billy Idol does this. But if Joe down the street wears a Confederate Flag belt buckle then he's a racist? But not Billy, cause reasons? I mean, cancel Dukes of Hazard. But if Billy has a Confederate Flag guitar then clearly he's honoring the blues singers of the South. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HagenEx 07/10/20 2:17:58 AM #43:	BeyondWalls posted... So people are cool when Billy Idol does this. But if Joe down the street wears a Confederate Flag belt buckle then he's a racist? But not Billy, cause reasons? That's... Exactly how it works. Celebrities get away with shit the common peasant can't. --- Not changing this sig until The Big Dawg Roman Reigns beats cancer and wins back the Universal Title. Belee Dat! <cite>HagenEx posted [p:941916375] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> So people are cool when Billy Idol does this. But if Joe down the street wears a Confederate Flag belt buckle then he's a racist? But not Billy, cause reasons? That's... Exactly how it works. Celebrities get away with shit the common peasant can't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/10/20 11:05:49 AM #44:	https://twitter.com/BillyIdol/status/613374485195018240?s=20 Not really an apology but I guess it's something. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941926652] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BillyIdol/status/613374485195018240?s=20 Not really an apology but I guess it's something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 07/10/20 2:46:35 PM #46:	CloneTheHero posted... told you the brit rock n rollers were unaware of its racist past Yeah, bullshit. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941936024] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>CloneTheHero posted... </cite> <quote>told you the brit rock n rollers were unaware of its racist past</quote>Yeah, bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 07/10/20 2:48:46 PM #47:	Often ignored fact the Brits backed the Confederates until they started losing. --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:941936108] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Often ignored fact the Brits backed the Confederates until they started losing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SMAP- 07/10/20 2:50:35 PM #48:	Dont get me wrong I enjoy quite a few Gen X and solo BIlly Idol songs, but hes always struck me as a bit of a fake punk --- sigless user <cite>SMAP- posted [p:941936194] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>Dont get me wrong I enjoy quite a few Gen X and solo BIlly Idol songs, but hes always struck me as a bit of a fake punk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 07/10/20 2:51:16 PM #49:	ZeroX91 posted... Often ignored fact the Brits backed the Confederates until they started losing. Oh damn. Today's not a good day to be English. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941936217] in Why is the... [t:78836233]...</cite> <quote>ZeroX91 posted... </cite> <quote>Often ignored fact the Brits backed the Confederates until they started losing.</quote>Oh damn. Today's not a good day to be English. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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