Current Events > Shut everything down and give everybody $2k a month or we're doomed.

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Lebronwon
07/01/20 10:37:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/JoeDunman/status/1277732064868085762



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Guide
07/01/20 10:38:30 AM
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It's funny because we're fucked either way!

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SevenTenths
07/01/20 10:39:30 AM
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https://media0.giphy.com/media/d962S6U491NhLN5LiB/giphy.gif

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 11:02:08 AM
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Nothing is stopping any given state, county (or parish), or municipality from doing this.
However, there's no constitutional authority for the federal government to do so.
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thronedfire2
07/01/20 11:05:50 AM
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government should have just put a waiver on mortgage/loan payments for 3 months and told banks they'd have to just eat the loss and not backcharge. it's not like new businesses are going to be opening up in the places that shut down and get taken back by the banks.

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MachineJaipur
07/01/20 11:06:05 AM
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EggNogPrince posted...
Wait states could have been doing the 1,200 a month this whole time? wtf why aren't they getting heat for not doing it.
Most states don't have near the budget to do that and to my understanding they can't borrow money, just request more from the federal government
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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 11:07:02 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
government should have just put a waiver on mortgage/loan payments for 3 months and told banks they'd have to just eat the loss and not backcharge.
Good luck with that. Banks tend to have really good lawyers on retainer.
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The Trent
07/01/20 11:07:08 AM
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hahahahah
twitter people are the best people

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ThunderTrain
07/01/20 11:08:39 AM
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No, instead we need half the country to continuously vote for a party that removes all safety nets because they're for "lazy people." Oh and we need more tanks ASAP!

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DiegoSanchez206
07/01/20 11:09:36 AM
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ThunderTrain posted...
No, instead we need half the country to continuously vote for a party that removes all safety nets because they're for "lazy people." Oh and we need more tanks ASAP!

While the other half wants to set up new countries with guns and walls.

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thronedfire2
07/01/20 11:10:23 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Good luck with that. Banks tend to have really good lawyers on retainer.

they'd never get it into the court system in time to challenge it

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 11:13:18 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
they'd never get it into the court system in time to challenge it
You don't need the full-on court production to get a judge to issue a stay.
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puppy
07/01/20 11:16:04 AM
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Joe Dunham must think that money grows on trees. Judging by his picture, it looks like he makes a lot of money and lives in a big apartment in the big city, without a care in the world. It's like...he thinks that our country can just pause for 6 months, while the rest of the world keeps working, producing, and progressing with life.

Did everyone already forget FDR's famous line? "The only thing to fear is fear itself."

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AlephZero
07/01/20 11:18:12 AM
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Give everyone $50k a month or consequences will never be the same.

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lincoln002
07/01/20 11:18:18 AM
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This is what happens when the whole country is a ponzi scheme.

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ThunderTrain
07/01/20 11:18:20 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
We probably should have fully shut down when the rest of the world did...

Health and safety isn't a political issue in other parts of the world either

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 11:18:36 AM
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puppy posted...
Did everyone already forget FDR's famous line? "The only thing to fear is fear itself."
I wonder why FDR hasn't been "cancelled" yet...
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SevenTenths
07/01/20 11:18:44 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Nothing is stopping any given state, county (or parish), or municipality from doing this.

money is stopping them
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everyone unemployed has been getting 2400/mo + anything from state unemployment this whole time.

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joe40001
07/01/20 11:22:33 AM
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How long could we have done this if 100% of the money that went to companies went to the people?

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 11:23:21 AM
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SevenTenths posted...
money is stopping them
If the fifty states can't afford it, it's utter fantasy to assume that all fifty can.
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Payzmaykr
07/01/20 11:54:00 AM
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The first problem with that statement is that the government doesnt need to suspend rent payments; it needs to cover rent payments.

If the government isnt going to cover rent, then theres no point in giving us $2000. They might as well just give the money directly to the landlords because theyre going to take it anyway.

Telling me I dont have to pay rent for a month isnt helpful because Im going to owe the landlord money. I dont want to owe anyone money and I never had to owe money when I could work.

In fact, why not just average our last three paychecks and give us that much? Thats how much we actually need to get. If $1200/month was enough to get by, I would just work at mcdondalds.

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kingdrake2
07/01/20 12:02:41 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Im going to owe the landlord money


:( we know that scenario. one year in december i had trouble paying rent for just 1 month when things got bad. she was nice enough to say to only pay her half the rent and pay the other half when things got better

she was a nice landlord until she transferred property to a new owner.
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masticatingman
07/01/20 12:04:02 PM
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Eviction moratoriums dont last forever

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kingdrake2
07/01/20 12:04:56 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Eviction moratoriums dont last forever


this is true. they extended it to September in oregon.
when the extension ends they have until march to pay it all back.

it could change after september. could be worse off/better it's a coin toss.
if i had to guess myself, likely going to get worse (still have 1 major holiday coming up and the summer season).
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Annihilated
07/01/20 12:07:44 PM
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So what good is money gonna do if everything is closed and nothing is being produced or sold??
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CommonJoe
07/01/20 12:08:35 PM
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Annihilated posted...
So what good is money gonna do if everything is closed and nothing is being produced or sold??

Apparently the concept of necessities is foreign to this particular reptilian.

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REMercsChamp
07/01/20 12:08:51 PM
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Shut everything down NOW. Nothing but grocery stores open, no one working any other jobs other than related to groceries! Government will give you money to buy them! Let's do this for a year!

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fhqwhgads
07/01/20 12:09:22 PM
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Joe Dunman? More like Joe Dumbman

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nexigrams
07/01/20 12:18:54 PM
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Money does grow on trees. Just look at the military expenditures as proof. Build one less doomed to fail anyways warjet next year and you can do this plan for like the next 6 years easy.

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SevenTenths
07/01/20 12:19:20 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
If the fifty states can't afford it, it's utter fantasy to assume that all fifty can.

let me know which state has a higher income tax rate then federal.

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 12:23:20 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
let me know which state has a higher income tax rate then federal.
It really should be the other way around.
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SevenTenths
07/01/20 12:23:54 PM
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ok boomer

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Kaliesto
07/01/20 12:25:24 PM
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lincoln002 posted...
This is what happens when the whole country is a ponzi scheme.

And most of our amendments became a joke except for parts of the 2nd amendment.

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 12:27:14 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
And most of our amendments became a joke except for parts of the 2nd amendment.
Doesn't seem to be a lot of 3rd-amendment issues these days.
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thronedfire2
07/01/20 12:54:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Doesn't seem to be a lot of 3rd-amendment issues these days.

yeah now civilians live on military bases lol

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Monolith1676
07/01/20 1:27:02 PM
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Haha. People like this don't realize that if everything is shutdown there is little to no tax revenue, which in turn means $2,000 a month would not be feasible.

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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 1:36:22 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
which in turn means $2,000 a month would not be feasible
To be fair, what's another trillion dollars when you're $25 trillion in debt already?
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Questionmarktarius
07/01/20 1:40:41 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
to give just half of all Americans 2k a month would be 3 trillion a month.
something about this math doesn't seem right.
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EvilutionV316
07/01/20 1:42:28 PM
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But the economy...

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SevenTenths
07/01/20 1:42:31 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
something about this math doesn't seem right.
yeah your right, added an extra 0 somewhere.

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CommonJoe
07/01/20 1:42:37 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
to give just half of all Americans 2k a month would be 3 trillion a month.

Um no. All Americans getting 2k a month doesnt even get that close to 1 trillion a month.

328 million x 2000 = $656 billion.

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