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pinky0926 06/22/20 6:43:19 PM #252:	Looked gf posted... This lol You guys dont see a problem at all with the premise that if a women from your industry contacts you about a professional conference type thing and hangs out in your company therefore it means you should assume shes wanting you in a romantic/sexual way? That's a whole kettle of fish in itself. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:941091636] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Looked gf posted... </cite> <quote>This lol</quote> You guys dont see a problem at all with the premise that if a women from your industry contacts you about a professional conference type thing and hangs out in your company therefore it means you should assume shes wanting you in a romantic/sexual way? That's a whole kettle of fish in itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 06/22/20 6:43:42 PM #253:	Nah, fuck the inherent power dynamics shit. If the power balance is not being used in an outright manipulative way, it's just an absolute bunk argument. Power can be used to manipulate and dominate someone against their will, but you cannot just claim the existence in itself means anything. That's especially true for someone who is not her boss and has fuck all in power over her. <cite>nemu posted [p:941091667] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Nah, fuck the inherent power dynamics shit. If the power balance is not being used in an outright manipulative way, it's just an absolute bunk argument. Power can be used to manipulate and dominate someone against their will, but you cannot just claim the existence in itself means anything. That's especially true for someone who is not her boss and has fuck all in power over her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 06/22/20 6:45:08 PM #254:	nemu posted... Nah, fuck the inherent power dynamics shit. If the power balance is not being used in an outright manipulative way, it's just an absolute bunk argument. Holy shit, man... --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:941091728] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Nah, fuck the inherent power dynamics shit. If the power balance is not being used in an outright manipulative way, it's just an absolute bunk argument.</quote> Holy shit, man... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoundNetwork 06/22/20 6:47:30 PM #255:	BeantownHero posted... Holy shit, man... Holy shit, man... --- https://imgur.com/HcKBWZ6 <cite>SoundNetwork posted [p:941091845] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeantownHero posted... </cite> <quote>Holy shit, man...</quote>Holy shit, man... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unite 06/22/20 6:47:32 PM #256:	what strange this happens to come out just before is last of us 2 review <cite>Unite posted [p:941091846] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>what strange this happens to come out just before is last of us 2 review </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 06/22/20 6:47:36 PM #257:	Y'all forgetting about Poke Nappy Boi. --- Maketh thy Countries Greateth Again don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:941091849] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Y'all forgetting about Poke Nappy Boi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 06/22/20 6:52:34 PM #258:	EnragedSlith posted... remember I once kissed a girl after spending like two hours talking with her over coffee. She was smiley and kind of shy, and I remember thinking the date was going really well. She actually got pretty upset that Id kissed her, because shed never kissed anyone despite being 22 at the time, and argued with me about it for a few days after the fact. Like Id somehow forced myself on her and stolen that moment, when Id merely leaned in and pecked her on the lips as we hugged goodbye. But what if I was up for some prestigious award and she came out and accused me of grabbing her after an uncomfortable two hours and forcing my lips on hers. She wouldnt technically be wrong if thats what happened from her perspective. So the question is whether I was predatory for going in for a kiss I thought she wanted, in part, because she didnt stop me. People arguing in bad faith dont think theres even a question. And on the other end, its people who think all women are evil. So theres no arguing in these cases. Youre either fully supportive or youre a monster. But a libelous public statement demands the conversation, and I honestly think attacking Joes reputation over an incident where no violence occurred is inappropriate. All these events are framed from the perspective of a meek individual in a way that makes them sound like calculated attempts to isolate her. It really just sounds like two socially awkward people learning to navigate boundaries. And judging by Joes response, this might be the first time hes heard this perspective and thought nothing serious had occurred. Right but what were the power dynamics of the situation? You're in public, you're not meeting under false pretenses, you haven't tried to liquor her up ahead of time, and (unless you left this out) you have no power or prestige over her. I don't think anyone would care about that accusation, even if they believed it was true. When you are in Joe's position, you KNOW that there's a power dynamic at play. You're using the promise of connections, etc. to get this person in the situation and there are particular actions that I feel like can't just be seen a different way from his viewpoint (trying to keep her away from her phone, trying to cast aspersions on her friend, etc.) --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:941092107] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>EnragedSlith posted... </cite> <quote>remember I once kissed a girl after spending like two hours talking with her over coffee. She was smiley and kind of shy, and I remember thinking the date was going really well. She actually got pretty upset that Id kissed her, because shed never kissed anyone despite being 22 at the time, and argued with me about it for a few days after the fact. Like Id somehow forced myself on her and stolen that moment, when Id merely leaned in and pecked her on the lips as we hugged goodbye. But what if I was up for some prestigious award and she came out and accused me of grabbing her after an uncomfortable two hours and forcing my lips on hers. She wouldnt technically be wrong if thats what happened from her perspective. So the question is whether I was predatory for going in for a kiss I thought she wanted, in part, because she didnt stop me. People arguing in bad faith dont think theres even a question. And on the other end, its people who think all women are evil. So theres no arguing in these cases. Youre either fully supportive or youre a monster. But a libelous public statement demands the conversation, and I honestly think attacking Joes reputation over an incident where no violence occurred is inappropriate. All these events are framed from the perspective of a meek individual in a way that makes them sound like calculated attempts to isolate her. It really just sounds like two socially awkward people learning to navigate boundaries. And judging by Joes response, this might be the first time hes heard this perspective and thought nothing serious had occurred.</quote> Right but what were the power dynamics of the situation? You're in public, you're not meeting under false pretenses, you haven't tried to liquor her up ahead of time, and (unless you left this out) you have no power or prestige over her. I don't think anyone would care about that accusation, even if they believed it was true. When you are in Joe's position, you KNOW that there's a power dynamic at play. You're using the promise of connections, etc. to get this person in the situation and there are particular actions that I feel like can't just be seen a different way from his viewpoint (trying to keep her away from her phone, trying to cast aspersions on her friend, etc.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 06/22/20 6:53:53 PM #259:	Mistere Man posted... Didnt she text him and others before, and dont you need the persons number to do that? She direct messaged him on Twitter from the pictures. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:941092194] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Mistere Man posted... </cite> <quote>Didnt she text him and others before, and dont you need the persons number to do that?</quote> She direct messaged him on Twitter from the pictures. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 06/22/20 6:55:19 PM #260:	Anteaterking posted... She direct messaged him on Twitter from the pictures. Oh of course, and Thank you! --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:941092266] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>She direct messaged him on Twitter from the pictures.</quote>Oh of course, and Thank you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
looked 06/22/20 7:04:55 PM #261:	pinky0926 posted... If guys think that some metoo stories on twitter is creating an unprecedented situation where someone could lie and ruin another person reputation, they come across a bit ignorant of the reality: even when women tell the truth, historically the only reputation that gets ruined is their own. Ruing someones life just based on an accusation is going too far in the other direction though. There has to be a middle ground where the accusations are taken seriously, but the accused doesnt immediately have the life ruined regardless of the outcome. <cite>looked posted [p:941092803] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote> If guys think that some metoo stories on twitter is creating an unprecedented situation where someone could lie and ruin another person reputation, they come across a bit ignorant of the reality: even when women tell the truth, historically the only reputation that gets ruined is their own. </quote> Ruing someones life just based on an accusation is going too far in the other direction though. There has to be a middle ground where the accusations are taken seriously, but the accused doesnt immediately have the life ruined regardless of the outcome.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 06/22/20 7:11:48 PM #262:	Damn. I got busy and this got far more interesting. I still stand by everything I said. People wanting Joe to burn just for being a youtuber they don't like still going in. Also, of course he has lawyers. You don't get to any sort of fame without people trying to sue you. We usually only hear about very few cases. Nobody is a winner in this. Hope the truth comes out, whatever that truth may be. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941093173] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Damn. I got busy and this got far more interesting. I still stand by everything I said. People wanting Joe to burn just for being a youtuber they don't like still going in. Also, of course he has lawyers. You don't get to any sort of fame without people trying to sue you. We usually only hear about very few cases. Nobody is a winner in this. Hope the truth comes out, whatever that truth may be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 06/22/20 7:13:03 PM #263:	looked posted... There has to be a middle ground I been fighting this battle here for years man. Strap in for a long journey if you're trying to go that route. And I just mean a middle ground in general, not just about the Metoo movement. You get more attention online from being dramatic one way or the other. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941093233] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>looked posted... </cite> <quote>There has to be a middle ground</quote> I been fighting this battle here for years man. Strap in for a long journey if you're trying to go that route. And I just mean a middle ground in general, not just about the Metoo movement. You get more attention online from being dramatic one way or the other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Looked gf 06/22/20 7:14:50 PM #264:	pinky0926 posted... You guys dont see a problem at all with the premise that if a women from your industry contacts you about a professional conference type thing and hangs out in your company therefore it means you should assume shes wanting you in a romantic/sexual way? That's a whole kettle of fish in itself. Wdym? Obviously you shouldn't assume that --- https://gfycat.com/chillynearfiddlercrab.gif <cite>Looked gf posted [p:941093336] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>You guys dont see a problem at all with the premise that if a women from your industry contacts you about a professional conference type thing and hangs out in your company therefore it means you should assume shes wanting you in a romantic/sexual way? That's a whole kettle of fish in itself.</quote> Wdym? Obviously you shouldn't assume that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/22/20 7:17:14 PM #265:	everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:941093458] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 06/22/20 7:18:43 PM #266:	Bass_X0 posted... everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet. But you can't take the high ground when you're reasonable. How else am I suppose to make up for my insecurities if not by being easily convinced everyone else is garbage? --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:941093535] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet.</quote> But you can't take the high ground when you're reasonable. How else am I suppose to make up for my insecurities if not by being easily convinced everyone else is garbage? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Propane4Sale 06/22/20 7:30:31 PM #267:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Damn. I got busy and this got far more interesting. I still stand by everything I said. People wanting Joe to burn just for being a youtuber they don't like still going in. Also, of course he has lawyers. You don't get to any sort of fame without people trying to sue you. We usually only hear about very few cases. Nobody is a winner in this. Hope the truth comes out, whatever that truth may be. She opened a can of worms doing this so she better hope she has a damn good case against his. Unite posted... what strange this happens to come out just before is last of us 2 review I was looking forward to that meltdown and now it's likely it ain't happening for a while. --- Strickland Propane & Propane Accessories "Taste the Heat, not the Meat!" <cite>Propane4Sale posted [p:941094152] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Damn. I got busy and this got far more interesting. I still stand by everything I said. People wanting Joe to burn just for being a youtuber they don't like still going in. Also, of course he has lawyers. You don't get to any sort of fame without people trying to sue you. We usually only hear about very few cases. Nobody is a winner in this. Hope the truth comes out, whatever that truth may be.</quote> She opened a can of worms doing this so she better hope she has a damn good case against his. Unite posted... </cite> <quote>what strange this happens to come out just before is last of us 2 review</quote> I was looking forward to that meltdown and now it's likely it ain't happening for a while. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/22/20 8:32:18 PM #268:	Bass_X0 posted... everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet. Yeah... I'm pretty sure most people haven't thrown a girl up against the wall and later demanded she go home with them because she owes them. Maybe that's just me though. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941097225] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>everyone is a weirdo when having their hook-up attempts being discussed by strangers on the internet.</quote>Yeah... I'm pretty sure most people haven't thrown a girl up against the wall and later demanded she go home with them because she owes them. Maybe that's just me though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 06/22/20 8:46:47 PM #269:	looked posted... Ruing someones life just based on an accusation is going too far in the other direction though. There has to be a middle ground where the accusations are taken seriously, but the accused doesnt immediately have the life ruined regardless of the outcome. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:941097973] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>looked posted... </cite> <quote>Ruing someones life just based on an accusation is going too far in the other direction though. There has to be a middle ground where the accusations are taken seriously, but the accused doesnt immediately have the life ruined regardless of the outcome.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 06/22/20 9:06:11 PM #270:	BeyondWalls posted... Yeah... I'm pretty sure most people haven't thrown a girl up against the wall and later demanded she go home with them because she owes them. Maybe that's just me though. Whaaat? I thought everyone did that and told her that her friend would rape her! --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:941099008] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah... I'm pretty sure most people haven't thrown a girl up against the wall and later demanded she go home with them because she owes them. Maybe that's just me though.</quote>Whaaat? I thought everyone did that and told her that her friend would rape her! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 06/22/20 9:17:34 PM #271:	Angry joe was a fucking zero growing up who never got any attention from anyone, especially women. now that he has some internet clout his fucking ego ballooned and thinks he has the RIGHT to whatever he wants just cause hes got some money and fans. thats what a megalomaniac does. now on topic, this isnt a #metoo moment. This is some guy trying way too fucking hard to impress an easily impressionable woman to get with them. this girl has a BF and the first moment she wound up alone with him in his hotel she should have realized what he wanted and ended it once they were safely in public. She rolled with it for 7 hours before trying to leave. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:941099572] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Angry joe was a fucking zero growing up who never got any attention from anyone, especially women. now that he has some internet clout his fucking ego ballooned and thinks he has the RIGHT to whatever he wants just cause hes got some money and fans. thats what a megalomaniac does. now on topic, this isnt a #metoo moment. This is some guy trying way too fucking hard to impress an easily impressionable woman to get with them. this girl has a BF and the first moment she wound up alone with him in his hotel she should have realized what he wanted and ended it once they were safely in public. She rolled with it for 7 hours before trying to leave. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/22/20 9:21:11 PM #272:	Blue_Inigo posted... Whaaat? I thought everyone did that and told her that her friend would rape her! Isn't that the end to every romantic movie? They're on the front porch at night after a date. The moonlight is reflecting in her eyes. And the guy leans in and whispers, "your friend is going to rape you." --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941099748] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Whaaat? I thought everyone did that and told her that her friend would rape her!</quote>Isn't that the end to every romantic movie? They're on the front porch at night after a date. The moonlight is reflecting in her eyes. And the guy leans in and whispers, "your friend is going to rape you." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeadPipeCinche 06/22/20 9:24:37 PM #273:	Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. In the words of Green Day: Good Riddance. <cite>LeadPipeCinche posted [p:941099946] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. In the words of Green Day: Good Riddance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/22/20 9:32:59 PM #274:	LeadPipeCinche posted... Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. In the words of Green Day: Good Riddance. He's not going anywhere. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:941100372] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>LeadPipeCinche posted... </cite> <quote>Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. In the words of Green Day: Good Riddance.</quote>He's not going anywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 06/22/20 10:46:15 PM #275:	pinky0926 posted... I think the conversation (in general, not simply this case) is coloured by the sheer, overwhelming problem that has existed for so long with no meaningful change: women get sexually assaulted all the time and almost never have any legal or social recourse for it. If guys think that some metoo stories on twitter is creating an unprecedented situation where someone could lie and ruin another person reputation, they come across a bit ignorant of the reality: even when women tell the truth, historically the only reputation that gets ruined is their own. So yes, there can conceivably be times that women lie about an experience, or exaggerate, or maybe the consequences seem disproportionate. But it's also hard to take the arguments seriously from people who tirelessly point that stuff out when you know they never once seriously thought about the injustice of sexual assault accusations until men started to be actually called out. It really does for me draw a lot of parallels with what is happening with BLM right now. Suddenly everyone is in a frenzy to show the good cops, and the times black people were the bad guys, and how white people can be victims too. All true points but brought up only to distract from the original problem that was highlighted. Im not really talking about a situation where theyre lying or exaggerating, though. Ive had sex with women where I was uncomfortable just because it was easier than saying no. Maybe some of them would think that had been a nice evening. If I was the sort of person who would be traumatized by that, would I be wrong for my perspective? So I think theres a need for real conversations about these incidents. Because sometimes theyre disgusting and damning like in the Avellone situation, and sometimes they seem like an embarrassing misunderstanding that got handled poorly. I dont disagree with what youre saying, though. Anteaterking posted... Right but what were the power dynamics of the situation? You're in public, you're not meeting under false pretenses, you haven't tried to liquor her up ahead of time, and (unless you left this out) you have no power or prestige over her. I don't think anyone would care about that accusation, even if they believed it was true. When you are in Joe's position, you KNOW that there's a power dynamic at play. You're using the promise of connections, etc. to get this person in the situation and there are particular actions that I feel like can't just be seen a different way from his viewpoint (trying to keep her away from her phone, trying to cast aspersions on her friend, etc.) I think Joes stance at the time was feeling used because of those connections. I imagine he thought she was interested in him, and then took her fumbling attempts at distraction as admittance that she was only there to advance her career. It was embarrassing, immature, and way out of line, yes, but I dont see how him getting angry is traumatizing enough to publicize an awkward experience. --- I can't leave without my buddy, Superfly. <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:941104099] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite> <quote>I think the conversation (in general, not simply this case) is coloured by the sheer, overwhelming problem that has existed for so long with no meaningful change: women get sexually assaulted all the time and almost never have any legal or social recourse for it. If guys think that some metoo stories on twitter is creating an unprecedented situation where someone could lie and ruin another person reputation, they come across a bit ignorant of the reality: even when women tell the truth, historically the only reputation that gets ruined is their own. So yes, there can conceivably be times that women lie about an experience, or exaggerate, or maybe the consequences seem disproportionate. But it's also hard to take the arguments seriously from people who tirelessly point that stuff out when you know they never once seriously thought about the injustice of sexual assault accusations until men started to be actually called out. It really does for me draw a lot of parallels with what is happening with BLM right now. Suddenly everyone is in a frenzy to show the good cops, and the times black people were the bad guys, and how white people can be victims too. All true points but brought up only to distract from the original problem that was highlighted.</quote> Im not really talking about a situation where theyre lying or exaggerating, though. Ive had sex with women where I was uncomfortable just because it was easier than saying no. Maybe some of them would think that had been a nice evening. If I was the sort of person who would be traumatized by that, would I be wrong for my perspective? So I think theres a need for real conversations about these incidents. Because sometimes theyre disgusting and damning like in the Avellone situation, and sometimes they seem like an embarrassing misunderstanding that got handled poorly. I dont disagree with what youre saying, though. Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>Right but what were the power dynamics of the situation? You're in public, you're not meeting under false pretenses, you haven't tried to liquor her up ahead of time, and (unless you left this out) you have no power or prestige over her. I don't think anyone would care about that accusation, even if they believed it was true. When you are in Joe's position, you KNOW that there's a power dynamic at play. You're using the promise of connections, etc. to get this person in the situation and there are particular actions that I feel like can't just be seen a different way from his viewpoint (trying to keep her away from her phone, trying to cast aspersions on her friend, etc.)</quote> I think Joes stance at the time was feeling used because of those connections. I imagine he thought she was interested in him, and then took her fumbling attempts at distraction as admittance that she was only there to advance her career. It was embarrassing, immature, and way out of line, yes, but I dont see how him getting angry is traumatizing enough to publicize an awkward experience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 12:00:34 AM #276:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIUkBMbei8 Joe talks about it a little in his new video. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941107413] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIUkBMbei8 Joe talks about it a little in his new video. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/23/20 12:08:28 AM #277:	mach25687 posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIUkBMbei8 Joe talks about it a little in his new video. Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941107693] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>mach25687 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIUkBMbei8 Joe talks about it a little in his new video.</quote>Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 06/23/20 12:18:56 AM #278:	BeyondWalls posted... Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere. Its what smart people do. Considering what can be used against you, regardless of content or intent, youd have to be incredibly naive, ignorant or arrogant to speak without legal counsel. On a somewhat related note, please take some time to watch this lengthy but insightful video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:941108063] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere.</quote> Its what smart people do. Considering what can be used against you, regardless of content or intent, youd have to be incredibly naive, ignorant or arrogant to speak without legal counsel. On a somewhat related note, please take some time to watch this lengthy but insightful video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 06/23/20 1:31:33 AM #279:	BeyondWalls posted... Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere. I just want to double what Lorenzo said. To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:941110598] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere.</quote> I just want to double what Lorenzo said. To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/23/20 1:40:44 AM #280:	cjsdowg posted... I just want to double what Lorenzo said. To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible. Letting the lawyers do the relevant fact-finding, laying out all the information, and formulate all the options and pertinent details ahead of time is 100% the smartest thing to do. There is nothing about hiring a lawyer that implies guilt. It's just the thing you're supposed to do the second anybody accuses you of anything (and especially if they're trying to use that information to get you fired or punished by your job, which this girl is seemingly doing--she said she had "already contacted youtube" and that they've already taken some unspecified action.) --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:941110887] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>I just want to double what Lorenzo said. To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible.</quote>Letting the lawyers do the relevant fact-finding, laying out all the information, and formulate all the options and pertinent details ahead of time is 100% the smartest thing to do. There is nothing about hiring a lawyer that implies guilt. It's just the thing you're supposed to do the second anybody accuses you of anything (and especially if they're trying to use that information to get you fired or punished by your job, which this girl is seemingly doing--she said she had "already contacted youtube" and that they've already taken some unspecified action.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/23/20 2:12:12 AM #281:	do to the fact things are on going i will just say this DO NOT ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH YOUR FANS EVER also becareful if you invite a fan or group of fans to dinner or something not saying dont do this but make it very clear with eye witnesses and heck even video footage that its just a friendly dinner and stress if they or one of there friends make any one uncomfortable to speak up --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:941111810] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>do to the fact things are on going i will just say this DO NOT ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH YOUR FANS EVER also becareful if you invite a fan or group of fans to dinner or something not saying dont do this but make it very clear with eye witnesses and heck even video footage that its just a friendly dinner and stress if they or one of there friends make any one uncomfortable to speak up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 06/23/20 2:15:55 AM #282:	Background dude is warned. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:941111891] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Background dude is warned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/23/20 3:11:07 AM #283:	DO NOT ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH YOUR FANS EVER Its a practice thats been going on as long as groupies have existed. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:941113231] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote><quote>DO NOT ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH YOUR FANS EVER</quote> Its a practice thats been going on as long as groupies have existed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 06/23/20 3:15:10 AM #284:	Bass_X0 posted... Its a practice thats been going on as long as groupies have existed. yes i know and its STUPID --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:941113320] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>Its a practice thats been going on as long as groupies have existed.</quote>yes i know and its STUPID </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Propane4Sale 06/23/20 8:00:19 AM #285:	BeyondWalls posted... Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere. Don't be a moron. This is standard for ANY legal matter. St0rmFury posted... Background dude is warned. LOLOLOLOLOL --- Strickland Propane & Propane Accessories "Taste the Heat, not the Meat!" <cite>Propane4Sale posted [p:941118301] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes. My lawyers told me not to say anything. The mantra of innocent men everywhere.</quote> Don't be a moron. This is standard for ANY legal matter. St0rmFury posted... </cite> <quote>Background dude is warned.</quote> LOLOLOLOLOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 8:36:23 AM #286:	You know what suck more if this real or keep going. I feel like Capcom would pull the plug on his Official street fighter board game since they wouldn't want to be associated with him. Which is his most passionate thing he wants to do. I say this with how they're handling the whole fighting games players situation that just happen. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941119150] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>You know what suck more if this real or keep going. I feel like Capcom would pull the plug on his Official street fighter board game since they wouldn't want to be associated with him. Which is his most passionate thing he wants to do. I say this with how they're handling the whole fighting games players situation that just happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Propane4Sale 06/23/20 8:42:54 AM #287:	mach25687 posted... You know what suck more if this real or keep going. I feel like Capcom would pull the plug on his Official street fighter board game since they wouldn't want to be associated with him. Which is his most passionate thing he wants to do. I say this with how they're handling the whole fighting games players situation that just happen. I think that's been in the making for years now so honestly I would feel pretty bad for the guy if Capcom lawyers caught wind of this and claimed his project 100% for themselves. --- Strickland Propane & Propane Accessories "Taste the Heat, not the Meat!" <cite>Propane4Sale posted [p:941119329] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>mach25687 posted... </cite> <quote>You know what suck more if this real or keep going. I feel like Capcom would pull the plug on his Official street fighter board game since they wouldn't want to be associated with him. Which is his most passionate thing he wants to do. I say this with how they're handling the whole fighting games players situation that just happen.</quote> I think that's been in the making for years now so honestly I would feel pretty bad for the guy if Capcom lawyers caught wind of this and claimed his project 100% for themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 9:06:41 AM #288:	Propane4Sale posted... I think that's been in the making for years now so honestly I would feel pretty bad for the guy if Capcom lawyers caught wind of this and claimed his project 100% for themselves. I can see Capcom doing that or just telling to stop trying to make it. I think he put with kickbacker a good couple of hundred thousands dollars into it. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941120054] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Propane4Sale posted... </cite> <quote>I think that's been in the making for years now so honestly I would feel pretty bad for the guy if Capcom lawyers caught wind of this and claimed his project 100% for themselves.</quote>I can see Capcom doing that or just telling to stop trying to make it. I think he put with kickbacker a good couple of hundred thousands dollars into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 06/23/20 9:26:39 AM #289:	I really hate social media and people trying to ruin someone's life without waiting for the evidence first. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:941120749] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>I really hate social media and people trying to ruin someone's life without waiting for the evidence first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 9:41:16 AM #290:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z3NV5cHs5g --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941121281] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z3NV5cHs5g </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/23/20 11:50:07 AM #291:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Its what smart people do. cjsdowg posted... To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible. Propane4Sale posted... Don't be a moron. This is standard for ANY legal matter. @Propane4Sale @cjsdowg @Lorenzo_2003 Nope. This is how an innocent man acts... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78794953 Notice how Justin Bieber shut down that shit quick with facts. That's how an innocent man handles these situations. Compare that with Joe's response of, "I'm going to sue you!" Because keep in mind, Joe isn't being accused of a crime. Nobody is saying he raped anyone. It's not like Joe is lawyering up to prevent prosecution. He's lawyering up to win a civil case so he can shut this chick up. At least in theory. I think the truth is there is no lawyer (no lawyer has made any statement and Joe hasn't referred any questions to an attorney.) I think the lawyer stuff is a complete smokescreen because Joe knows he's guilty and there's literally nothing else he can say. This chick has two witnesses going to bat for her and so far no one who was there that day has come rushing to Joe's defense. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941126660] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>Its what smart people do.</quote> cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>To think people waiting for their lawyer to start speaking is a sign of a guilt is a horrible.</quote> Propane4Sale posted... </cite> <quote>Don't be a moron. This is standard for ANY legal matter.</quote> @Propane4Sale @cjsdowg @Lorenzo_2003 Nope. This is how an innocent man acts... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78794953 Notice how Justin Bieber shut down that shit quick with facts. That's how an innocent man handles these situations. Compare that with Joe's response of, "I'm going to sue you!" Because keep in mind, Joe isn't being accused of a crime. Nobody is saying he raped anyone. It's not like Joe is lawyering up to prevent prosecution. He's lawyering up to win a civil case so he can shut this chick up. At least in theory. I think the truth is there is no lawyer (no lawyer has made any statement and Joe hasn't referred any questions to an attorney.) I think the lawyer stuff is a complete smokescreen because Joe knows he's guilty and there's literally nothing else he can say. This chick has two witnesses going to bat for her and so far no one who was there that day has come rushing to Joe's defense. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 06/23/20 11:58:56 AM #292:	@BeyondWalls You really should watch the video I linked. It is free, expert advice that can help you in criminal and civil matters. At the very least, it can help you to not sound naive and uninformed. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:941127133] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>@BeyondWalls You really should watch the video I linked. It is free, expert advice that can help you in criminal and civil matters. At the very least, it can help you to not sound naive and uninformed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/23/20 12:02:37 PM #293:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... @BeyondWalls You really should watch the video I linked. It is free, expert advice that can help you in criminal and civil matters. At the very least, it can help you to not sound naive and uninformed. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941127316] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>@BeyondWalls You really should watch the video I linked. It is free, expert advice that can help you in criminal and civil matters. At the very least, it can help you to not sound naive and uninformed.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/23/20 12:18:21 PM #294:	BeyondWalls should really have quit while he had some credibility left. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:941128119] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>BeyondWalls should really have quit while he had some credibility left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 06/23/20 12:27:58 PM #295:	Gobstoppers12 posted... BeyondWalls should really have quit while he had some credibility left. Seriously, how many innocent people are in jail right now? --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:941128587] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite> <quote>BeyondWalls should really have quit while he had some credibility left.</quote>Seriously, how many innocent people are in jail right now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 12:32:38 PM #296:	Wonder how long will it take for his lawyers to make a statement? --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941128833] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Wonder how long will it take for his lawyers to make a statement? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/23/20 12:38:36 PM #297:	Jabodie posted... Just reading it, the story doesn't strike me as outlandish. Here's some cliff notes: - new steamer meets AJ at a party, messages everybody she met they thanking them - AJ hits in her over hard over text, she is somewhat socially inept and assume he's just being nice - she meets AJ with her friend with her, AJ whisks her away from him. - AJ leads her around all over the place, introducing her to his friends and people. She's intimidated so she doesn't express how uncomfortable she is. - in this time AJ uses some shitty pick up tactics, like pretending he lost his phone and getting her to call him to find it. - eventually it becomes obvious he's trying to fuck, especially as he gets more drunk, and at some point her purse with her wallet is "checked" - AJ eventually realizes she's not interested (she mentions her boyfriend), gets angry and a bit physical, accuses her of leading him on to get contacts in the industry. Starts being an asshole and insulting her friend. - she gets very purse and gets the fuck out of there after a 7-8 hour ordeal. edit: some extra details * AJ kept introducing her as his girl, didn't refer to her by name for a lot of this. Told her to just "go with it." * When AJ was being a drunk asshole, the streamer was telling AJ that her friend needed help to get into the AirBnB she was he. He was angry and was like "he's probably drunk and will try to rape you, just stick with me." Also doubted that her friend even existed, demanded his twitter handle so he could verify he existed and was at PAX East. Okay....so he came on to a girl way too hard and when she rejected him he was a dick? I'm not gonna defend his behavior, if half of that is true he was being an ass. But is making an ass of yourself sexual assault now? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:941129155] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>Just reading it, the story doesn't strike me as outlandish. Here's some cliff notes: - new steamer meets AJ at a party, messages everybody she met they thanking them - AJ hits in her over hard over text, she is somewhat socially inept and assume he's just being nice - she meets AJ with her friend with her, AJ whisks her away from him. - AJ leads her around all over the place, introducing her to his friends and people. She's intimidated so she doesn't express how uncomfortable she is. - in this time AJ uses some shitty pick up tactics, like pretending he lost his phone and getting her to call him to find it. - eventually it becomes obvious he's trying to fuck, especially as he gets more drunk, and at some point her purse with her wallet is "checked" - AJ eventually realizes she's not interested (she mentions her boyfriend), gets angry and a bit physical, accuses her of leading him on to get contacts in the industry. Starts being an asshole and insulting her friend. - she gets very purse and gets the fuck out of there after a 7-8 hour ordeal. edit: some extra details * AJ kept introducing her as his girl, didn't refer to her by name for a lot of this. Told her to just "go with it." * When AJ was being a drunk asshole, the streamer was telling AJ that her friend needed help to get into the AirBnB she was he. He was angry and was like "he's probably drunk and will try to rape you, just stick with me." Also doubted that her friend even existed, demanded his twitter handle so he could verify he existed and was at PAX East.</quote> Okay....so he came on to a girl way too hard and when she rejected him he was a dick? I'm not gonna defend his behavior, if half of that is true he was being an ass. But is making an ass of yourself sexual assault now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 06/23/20 12:40:39 PM #298:	Dathrowed1 posted... Seriously, how many innocent people are in jail right now? Once again, Joe is not being accused of a crime. mach25687 posted... Wonder how long will it take for his lawyers to make a statement? If there were lawyers actually involved then they would have made a statement already or Joe would have directed questions to his attorneys. What Joe most likely did was reach out to his business lawyers who handle his copyright issues and contracts and asked what they could do to quietly shut this down. Joe is looking to bury this, not fight a court case. That's why his statement was tacked on to a news video and not a separate video in itself. --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:941129276] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>Seriously, how many innocent people are in jail right now?</quote>Once again, Joe is not being accused of a crime. mach25687 posted... </cite> <quote>Wonder how long will it take for his lawyers to make a statement?</quote>If there were lawyers actually involved then they would have made a statement already or Joe would have directed questions to his attorneys. What Joe most likely did was reach out to his business lawyers who handle his copyright issues and contracts and asked what they could do to quietly shut this down. Joe is looking to bury this, not fight a court case. That's why his statement was tacked on to a news video and not a separate video in itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 06/23/20 1:04:36 PM #299:	What a long ass read just to learn this girl is upset Joe hit on her while she has a boyfriend Lmfao --- An NFL Haiku Bosa dreams broken. Like records set by Mahomes. Gruden is a bust. <cite>Northlane posted [p:941130565] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>What a long ass read just to learn this girl is upset Joe hit on her while she has a boyfriend Lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 06/23/20 1:19:58 PM #300:	Well look like Del is probably going to be on twitch more than the other three. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:941131297] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Well look like Del is probably going to be on twitch more than the other three. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 06/23/20 1:23:43 PM #301:	Northlane posted... What a long ass read just to learn this girl is upset Joe hit on her while she has a boyfriend Lmfao Why is this topic even 6 pages long --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:941131516] in Angry Joe ... [t:78793643]...</cite> <quote>Northlane posted... </cite> <quote>What a long ass read just to learn this girl is upset Joe hit on her while she has a boyfriend Lmfao</quote> Why is this topic even 6 pages long </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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