Current Events > Coronavirus 20: "I Can't Breathe"

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bigtiggie23 posted...

Yeah it did look better as the night went on. It appeared that just about everyone had a mask with them at least, but some kept it down while drinking and smoking.

That's progress. And I can understand lowering it for drinking or smoking as long as no one is right next to them.

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bigtiggie23 posted...

It's morons like this that are going to get things like casinos shut back down and put thousands out of work again.

some states that have to rely on tourism to survive have to walk a very fine line between health and work. i live in one such city if there's no tourists that decide to visit hours get cut due to shutting down.
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kingdrake2 posted...

some states that have to rely on tourism to survive have to walk a very fine line between health and work. i live in one such city if there's no tourists that decide to visit hours get cut due to shutting down.

I agree. We do need to show that its safe to come here. If it takes everyone wearing masks to do it, so be it. I think the cast majority of Nevadans will follow the mask mandate.

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over 3,500 in arizona today and over 9,500 for florida

Has Arizona dine anything to slow it down? Texas and Florida have barely done anything but something is better than nothing.

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Does anyone know of a breakdown by age for US deaths?

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Awesome posted...

over 9,500 for florida

It's OVER 9000!!!!!!

bigtiggie23 posted...

It's morons like this that are going to get things like casinos shut back down and put thousands out of work again.

Have a team of volunteers there with signs saying "Morons, get a life and let me have mine"

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Takuya Lee posted...

Has Arizona dine anything to slow it down? Texas and Florida have barely done anything but something is better than nothing.

The more populated areas mandated masks about a week ago. Other than that no. Hoping that will slow down the spread some, we'll see in the next few weeks.

umax555 posted...

The more populated areas mandated masks about a week ago. Other than that no. Hoping that will slow down the spread some, we'll see in the next few weeks.

Ok that's actually better than Texas and Florida.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

@PatrickMahomes

This is the nasal swab. Looks fucking awful
https://m.imgur.com/EwUBLgn

Fuck why did I watch this

It brought the pain back

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Yeah I think that was the exact gif I had buried in my memory

Fucking AWFUL

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https://abc7chicago.com/health/no-the-doj-isnt-handing-out-face-mask-exempt-cards/6274213/

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CobraGT posted...

https://abc7chicago.com/health/no-the-doj-isnt-handing-out-face-mask-exempt-cards/6274213/

Would it honestly be surprising if they were?

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oregon new cases today: 277 cases, 1 dead
highest cases: multnomah (59), umatilla (56), washington (44)
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Takuya Lee posted...

Would it honestly be surprising if they were?

Did your casino accept DOJ cards?

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I don't even understand what kind of illness could warrant no mask cards (if such a thing existed). I mean respiratory things maybe, but like surgeons wear masks during life-threatening surgery, they're made to be breathable if that's the issue...

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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20477724.2020.1785782

Apparently the mortality rate of COVID has gone way down at this hospital in Italy. Of course it's just one hospital in Italy so it may or may not actually mean anything to those of us in the US. But comparing the number of new cases in the US to the number of deaths over time I do think the mortality rate has gone down here as well. We'll probably see some sort of spike in deaths due to the huge increase in cases, but if the mortality rate really has gone down it might not be as bad as people expect.

Still, it's very important to continue wearing masks and social distancing. Hospitals reaching capacity = more people dying.

Something I'm curious about is, do we have data on how many people who recover end up with permanent damage and/ or long term complications?

MRW1215 posted...

Something I'm curious about is, do we have data on how many people who recover end up with permanent damage and/ or long term compilations?

6 months into this you would hope they had better data available to the public than what we have

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I swear I get more accurate COVID info on here than what national news provides. I saw a recent CBS story about states reversing reopenings and closing some things back down. The story focused on Texas and Florida but then their map lumped Nevada in with those states. As far as I know we haven't closed any businesses back down. We are going with mandatory masks first. They included states that have slowed down on reopening any more, but that's not the same. We weren't really on the verge of going to Phase 3 yet anyway.
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1277200024519180292?s=19

It's insane how quickly this spreads.

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bigtiggie23 posted...

I swear I get more accurate COVID info on here than what national news provides. I saw a recent CBS story about states reversing reopenings and closing some things back down. The story focused on Texas and Florida but then their map lumped Nevada in with those states. As far as I know we haven't closed any businesses back down. We are going with mandatory masks first. They included states that have slowed down on reopening any more, but that's not the same. We weren't really on the verge of going to Phase 3 yet anyway.

Yeah they aren't very good at nuance. Makes me wonder if they're mixing in a tiny bit if fear mongering for ratings.

And also I haven't heard anything about business closings either, just that phase 3 was delayed.

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https://twitter.com/AustinKellerman/status/1277228417868599306

What dumbasses. Hope your bars stay down, you fucks.

The day has come...I should be finding out in the next few hours if I'm positive.

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umax555 posted...

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20477724.2020.1785782

Apparently the mortality rate of COVID has gone way down at this hospital in Italy. Of course it's just one hospital in Italy so it may or may not actually mean anything to those of us in the US. But comparing the number of new cases in the US to the number of deaths over time I do think the mortality rate has gone down here as well. We'll probably see some sort of spike in deaths due to the huge increase in cases, but if the mortality rate really has gone down it might not be as bad as people expect.

Still, it's very important to continue wearing masks and social distancing. Hospitals reaching capacity = more people dying.

The tiny particle pollution in New York City is thought to aggravate pneumonia. The lockdown in Italy will have reduced tiny particle pollution.

Can this be why fewer deaths? (That there is less tiny particle air pollution?)

Lots of studies linking fine particle pollution and pneumonia. Here is one.

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1513/AnnalsATS.201706-495OC

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Negative!

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Negative!

that's good. he's safe from the sickness for now.
worse complication is being on a ventilator with lung problems if survive :(.
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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Negative!

That's good to hear!

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Brazil is terrible, and it looks like COVID is spreading across South America like wildfire. Peru and Chile have had a quarter million cases each.

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ImAMarvel posted...

Tested for corona today, debating whether or not I should show my boss the little paper they gave me to get out of work. I actually love my job but idk if I should show up if I may possibly have corona, even though I most likely don't

If you don't mind, what were the reasons for testing? Personally I'd rather not risk it, but if there was no suspected exposure or something, then eh

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Negative!

Awesome. I would say that's worthy of a high 5, but can't really give one while also social distancing.

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ImAMarvel posted...

I should show my boss the little paper they gave me to get out of work

i would wait till it's positive confirmation then not show up.
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ImAMarvel posted...

Tested for corona today, debating whether or not I should show my boss the little paper they gave me to get out of work. I actually love my job but idk if I should show up if I may possibly have corona, even though I most likely don't

@ImAMarvel Do you wear a mask?

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Perhaps, there will be fewer people running around loose now that these have been outed?



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CobraGT posted...

Perhaps, there will be fewer people running around loose now that these have been outed?

People who try to use those should be slapped with them and then kicked out. That's a horrible way to try to misuse the ADA.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/coronavirus-gov-gavin-newsom-orders-bars-to-close-in-la-other-ca-counties.html

They closed bars in LA county again.

LameFAQs posted...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/coronavirus-gov-gavin-newsom-orders-bars-to-close-in-la-other-ca-counties.html

They closed bars in LA county again.

It was expected. Surprised San Diego County and Orange County was on that list. Well, OC I'm not that surprised since he caved into them when they protested a virus.

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I wonder if my casino will have to close again.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/28/we-have-to-act-hhs-secretary-azar-warns-window-closing-to-halt-coronavirus-spike.html

"We have to act ..."


Is he in the same dimension as Trump?

Reading farther I can see the alignment with Trump: Azar, in an interview with CNNs State of the Union, denied that states reopening prematurely was tied to the spike in cases and instead blamed inappropriate individual behavior that has spread the virus.

Blame it on people not the government.

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I blame it on both. States going YOLO on reopening without a plan/preparation and people either becoming complacent or just downright ignoring guidelines.

That said, this is a Trump official not names Faucci saying this? I'm surprised.

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Takuya Lee posted...

I blame it on both. States going YOLO on reopening without a plan/preparation and people either becoming complacent or just downright ignoring guidelines.

That said, this is a Trump official not names Faucci saying this? I'm surprised.

My point about blaming individuals is that leaving the spread/containment of a potentially dangerous disease up to individuals discretion and then observing that many individuals lack the necessary discretion is non leadership.

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San Diego needs to close because all my peeps from the Imperial County heading over the hill to San Diego since we still closed here. Hope Newson intervenes. I don't trust my county to handle this. We need a curfew or something. People still gathering for parties and such.

Takuya Lee posted...

I blame it on both. States going YOLO on reopening without a plan/preparation and people either becoming complacent or just downright ignoring guidelines.

That said, this is a Trump official not names Faucci saying this? I'm surprised.

Published March 24
US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found"
foxnews

Nobody was prepared at how judgemental people are now


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CobraGT posted...

My point about blaming individuals is that leaving the spread/containment of a potentially dangerous disease up to individuals discretion and then observing that many individuals lack the necessary discretion is non leadership.

Oh I agree. The best thing Trump can do right now is get his base to wear a mask. I honestly don't trust him with anything else.

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On one hand there clearly is a renewed seriousness due to rising cases this past week that the virus isn't going away lightly. But others are really starting to get loud about the falling death counts and somehow thinking it's going to stay that way forever. From what I can tell it seems like they are basing this on two main ideas:

1) Dramatic improvement in treatment. I'm aware there have been important developments, but no miracle cures. Quality of treatment could also take some steps backwards if hospitals reach overload so it's risky to rely on this.

2) Conspiracy-type ideas about herd immunity and how "most of the nation has already had the virus and recovered without ever knowing it." It's nonsense, most people have not had this yet and even less so if you are looking at regions that never had a real peak.

This looks to be exponential growth playing out in real time. Even if the % of fatalities drops extremely, and hopefully that does happen, we're still going to have so many deaths just off pure volume unless action is taken soon. It might be too late really.

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