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solosnake
06/15/20 12:39:04 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53047282

Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard told BBC that three charges could apply against sacked police officer Garrett Rolfe: murder, felony murder and aggravated assault.
"But I believe in this instance, what we have to choose between, if there's a choice to be made, is between murder and felony murder," Mr Howard said.

Get rekt people who defended this trash

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Odoylerules
06/15/20 12:40:26 PM
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in b4 racists claim to know more than the cops and medical examiner....
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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 12:40:40 PM
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This is non-news. Any death caused by another person is homicide.

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Zikten
06/15/20 12:41:03 PM
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solosnake posted...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53047282

Get rekt people who defended this trash

Even some mods are guilty. I was defending Rayshard last night and got hit with a couple of trolling moderations
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chrono625
06/15/20 12:41:18 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This is non-news. Any death caused by another person is homicide.

this.

homicide=/=murder.

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Funkydog
06/15/20 12:42:41 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Not trying to stir the pot, I believe it to be a homicide as well, but I wonder how many of these new charges are coming in result of fear from protesters As opposed to legitimate inquiries of police brutality.

I guess what Im trying to say is, are these legitimate efforts to recognize whats going on, or are these tip toed charges Because they are afraid of the backlash
The protests definitely likely playing a big part, without them this would almost certainly be another thing that had them "working a desk job" as "punishment" and it never gets mentioned again.

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voldothegr8
06/15/20 12:50:14 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This is non-news. Any death caused by another person is homicide.

Incredibly false, go look up the definition
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ThisGuyAreSick
06/15/20 12:50:40 PM
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ThePrinceFish
06/15/20 12:51:07 PM
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itt: people learn the definition of homicide

holy shit lmao

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 12:53:14 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Incredibly false, go look up the definition



404: false not found

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ChuckSDeuces
06/15/20 12:54:43 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
itt: people learn the definition of homicide

holy shit lmao

Reminder that CE prides itself on being full of educated people

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solosnake
06/15/20 12:54:52 PM
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Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard told BBC that three charges could apply against sacked police officer Garrett Rolfe: murder, felony murder and aggravated assault.
"But I believe in this instance, what we have to choose between, if there's a choice to be made, is between murder and felony murder," Mr Howard said.

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bover_87
06/15/20 12:55:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This is non-news. Any death caused by another person is homicide.

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voldothegr8
06/15/20 12:56:22 PM
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https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/homicide

North American The deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 12:58:40 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
North American The deliberate and unlawful killing of one person by another; murder.
Murder is unlawful homicide. Homicide can be lawful. Assisted suicide is also homicide.

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stevethewindow
06/15/20 1:00:12 PM
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Who cares whether he was gay or not? what does it have to do with anything?
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ThePrinceFish
06/15/20 1:01:15 PM
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breaking: medical examiner confirms that brooks was indeed killed by another human being

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TommyG663513
06/15/20 1:01:54 PM
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I'd be very surprised if the cop commits any jail time, but I've been surprised an awful lot by the events of the last few weeks.

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/15/20 1:03:18 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Murder is unlawful homicide. Homicide can be lawful. Assisted suicide is also homicide.


Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard told BBC that three charges could apply against sacked police officer Garrett Rolfe: murder, felony murder and aggravated assault.
"But I believe in this instance, what we have to choose between, if there's a choice to be made, is between murder and felony murder," Mr Howard said.

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scorpion41
06/15/20 1:05:16 PM
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So now it becomes was it justifiable or not. There was never a question if the gunshot killed him. Chest thumpers acting like this is some sort of victory, lol.

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OneThatFollows
06/15/20 1:05:23 PM
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Nice

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/15/20 1:06:40 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...


Murder I get, but how would this be felony murder? Isn't felony murder when you kill someone during the act of a felony?


Well, if we want to be really technical here. The cops shot Rayshard Brooks because they thought a taser was a lethal weapon. They first tried to tase him with a lethal weapon. Assault with a deadly weapon is a felony, and add murder on top of that. Pulling out the taser led to Rayshard Brook's death. If it's not a deadly weapon that means the cops unjustifiably murdered Brooks.

If this was Jack McCoy he'd absolutely wreck these cops in criminal court.
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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 1:10:15 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
So now it becomes was it justifiable or not. There was never a question if the gunshot killed him. Chest thumpers acting like this is some sort of victory, lol.

Exactly. You literally cannot charge someone with murder before declaring cause of death to be homicide.

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/15/20 1:14:42 PM
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So the felony here would be unauthorized use of lethal force to begin with?


Yes but that would require to erase state law that dictated tasers were nonlethal. It's not a law that's set in stone though. Should the defendants choose to argue the taser was a deadly threat, they'd get destroyed on cross.
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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 1:16:11 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Yes but that would require to erase state law that dictated tasers were nonlethal. It's not a law that's set in stone though. Should the defendants choose to argue the taser was a deadly threat, they'd get destroyed on cross.

Seems like a really solid prosecution strategy actually.

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Houston
06/15/20 1:20:00 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Actually yeah, that makes sense. Cops can hardly argue that him shooting at them with a taser was lethal force if they're not willing to acknowledge that drawing it was the same.

So the felony here would be unauthorized use of lethal force to begin with?

I will point out that tasers in the hands of people who are untrained can be lethal.

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CableZL
06/15/20 1:25:28 PM
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Houston posted...
I will point out that tasers in the hands of people who are untrained can be lethal.

Cops have killed people with tasers before even though they were trained.

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 1:25:41 PM
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May as well continue the discussion here.

@Mark_DeRosa
Mark_DeRosa posted...
Bro, it was a mistake. Obviously I meant 0.08 come on. Its on camera

It wasn't Obvious at first. You can actually blow 1.0 it's just something really only crippling habitual alcoholics can do.

All I read was field sobriety test so I assumed they did things like check eye tracking & made him walk lines and shit. Didn't know he had blown a breathalyzer.

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solosnake
06/15/20 5:29:26 PM
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Atlanta mayor orders police reforms following Rayshard Brooks killing

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-15-20/h_eb24e1c875cd33119d588b063b322a3d

This shit isnt gonna fly in our country any more get fucked cop lovers

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Dark_SilverX
06/15/20 5:30:05 PM
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Good. Finally some justice.

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2Pacavelli
06/15/20 5:32:13 PM
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1st degree murder. He should receive life imprisonment or the death penalty

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2Pacavelli
06/15/20 5:32:45 PM
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solosnake posted...
Atlanta mayor orders police reforms following Rayshard Brooks killing

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-15-20/h_eb24e1c875cd33119d588b063b322a3d

This shit isnt gonna fly in our country any more get fucked cop lovers

The boot licks tried to justify this murder as well shows how pathetic they are

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SapphireClassic
06/15/20 5:33:59 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
itt: people learn the definition of homicide

holy shit lmao


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ThePrinceFish
06/15/20 5:34:01 PM
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solosnake posted...
Atlanta mayor orders police reforms following Rayshard Brooks killing

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-15-20/h_eb24e1c875cd33119d588b063b322a3d

This shit isnt gonna fly in our country any more get fucked cop lovers
She's signing an order to convene a body? My word, that's almost as impactful as when you thought the case being declared a homicide was a slam dunk for you lmao

Maybe next she can sign an order to rename a street to Black Lives Matter Boulevard.

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JBaLLEN66
06/15/20 5:34:52 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Not trying to stir the pot, I believe it to be a homicide as well, but I wonder how many of these new charges are coming in result of fear from protesters As opposed to legitimate inquiries of police brutality.

I guess what Im trying to say is, are these legitimate efforts to recognize whats going on, or are these tip toed charges Because they are afraid of the backlash

omg my feelz

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voldothegr8
06/15/20 5:36:12 PM
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solosnake posted...
<u>Atlanta mayor orders police reforms following Rayshard Brooks killing</u>

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-15-20/h_eb24e1c875cd33119d588b063b322a3d

This shit isnt gonna fly in our country any more get fucked cop lovers

Good. Bootlickers also won't like this

"If you don't want to put him back in the car, because nobody wants that, call his wife. 'Listen, is there somebody that we can call to come get you? We'll give you 20 minutes. If they come, you can go home. If they don't come, we have to take you to jail.' Simple. Easy," Miller said.

He referred to surveillance video, in which he said the officer had his hand on his weapon before a Taser was pointed. Miller said that shows the officers intention was ready to shoot.


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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 5:39:19 PM
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By the way, this is the same state where just a few days ago an officer killed a foreign diplomat's son during a traffic stop.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52906758

Snellville isn't very far from Atlanta.

It's also where Arbery was stopped and almost tased several years ago (and later killed)

It's also where the police threw a fucking grenade into a crib with a baby in it because they no knock raided the wrong fucking house.

It's also where a police officer was fired for joking about only killing black people to a stressed out white woman he pulled over.

The police here are real special.

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solosnake
06/15/20 5:41:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's also where the police threw a f***ing grenade into a crib with a baby in it because they no knock raided the wrong f***ing house.

It's also where a police officer was fired for joking about only killing black people to a stressed out white woman he pulled over.

jfc

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Billy__Beane
06/15/20 5:42:19 PM
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Cop is innocent, they are just doing this to avoid another riot
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ThePrinceFish
06/15/20 5:42:51 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
By the way, this is the same state where just a few days ago an officer killed a foreign diplomat's son during a traffic stop.

Those monsters

Georgia investigators said that at approximately 03:49 in the morning, a police officer in Snellville, Georgia attempted to stop his vehicle but the vehicle did not stop, and a pursuit ensued.
"Officers approached the vehicle and gave verbal commands for the driver to show his hands. The driver did not comply... the driver pointed a handgun at the officers. Officers fired at the driver and pulled back to take cover behind their patrol vehicles," investigators said.
A Swat team was called and "during the standoff, the driver pointed his weapon and fired at the SWAT officers. One GCPD SWAT officer fired his weapon", they added.

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 5:45:27 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Those monsters

\_()_/

An American diplomat's spouse killed a regular citizen by accident and it was a major international incident.

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ThePrinceFish
06/15/20 5:46:43 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
\_()_/

An American diplomat's spouse killed a regular citizen by accident and it was a major international incident.
Very similar situations.

Except for everything about them.

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Tyranthraxus
06/15/20 5:48:39 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
What the fuck?

The baby suffered some severe burns (severe for a baby anyway) but is doing okay now from what I remember. Here's the article.

Warning: graphic photo.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361

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2Pacavelli
06/15/20 5:55:03 PM
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These violations are serious international human rights violations. If the USA didn't have control over the international courts, there would be a serious penalty to pay for them.

They'd either have to stake out and partition us a sizable portion of land for our people. Or facilitate and fund our exodus to a new location where we could be fully free, if the individual chooses to do so. And the USA would be required to fully fund either or both options of addressing this.

Technically all Descendants of American Slavery are prisoners of war and should have refugee status under the guidelines of the Geneva Convention

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ChuckSDeuces
06/15/20 8:43:15 PM
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Tasers are not classified as non lethal

They are classified as less than lethal

This has been todays educating the ignorant moment on CE.

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