Current Events > Man gets tased after stealing cop's taser and threatening others with it

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https://www.timesrecordnews.com/story/news/local/2020/03/15/wichita-falls-police-tase-suspect-after-taking-officers-taser/5050202002/?fbclid= IwAR1IHS4J5aPEMYYMgl46Hkxwn0QkSgYLypFZIZ6jOSS7uLTcucJR4bnxijg

Delete the space after the equal sign to complete the link. Stupid gamefaqs.

Anyway, I wonder what the difference was between this and the Atlanta case......

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it's like I heard someone say on CNN

"white man walks into a black church and murders everyone inside. cops take him to the burger king drive through before going to prison"

"black man falls asleep at wendys, cops shoot him in the back"

Fire them and press criminal charges

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A taser is the appropriate response in this case

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This is sort of like what happened in Atlanta, since both dudes got tased

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Zikten posted...

it's like I heard someone say on CNN

"white man walks into a black church and murders everyone inside. cops take him to the burger king drive through before going to prison"

"black man falls asleep at wendys, cops shoot him in the back"

could you cherry-pick a statement anymore lmao. He was not shot for sleeping at Wendys. And the Burger King thing was done by the fbi no not police

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YugiNoob posted...

This is sort of like what happened in Atlanta, since both dudes got tased

WTF, I thought this was about Atlanta again. Its like every single day theres another fucking bad cop in the news

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After watching what happened, I dont think the cop was bad at all. He was polite and patient with the guy.

https://youtu.be/TUXRW-G4YyI

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YugiNoob posted...

After watching what happened, I dont think the cop was bad at all. He was polite and patient with the guy.

then why is he fired, and why did the police chief resign in shame?

Because theres a shit ton of anti cop sentiment right now

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YugiNoob posted...

After watching what happened, I dont think the cop was bad at all. He was polite and patient with the guy.

https://youtu.be/TUXRW-G4YyI

Thats not what the issues is here

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YugiNoob posted...

After watching what happened, I dont think the cop was bad at all. He was polite and patient with the guy.

https://youtu.be/TUXRW-G4YyI

you probably only feel that way because he is black

fucking shameful

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What is the issue? The deceased was given a chance to comply, spoken to in a calm manner, a less lethal weapon was deployed, and still nothing worked.

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Zikten posted...

then why is he fired, and why did the police chief resign in shame?

Unlawful termination. Don't worry the government will end up paying the cop for mistreating him.
I heard he will also get paid by a fund that Candance Owens will start.

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solosnake posted...

you probably only feel that way because he is black

fucking shameful

Lol wow, just make up shit. You probably feel that way because he was a cop!

derp logic

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YugiNoob posted...

After watching what happened, I dont think the cop was bad at all. He was polite and patient with the guy.

https://youtu.be/TUXRW-G4YyI

This is the first time I've seen this. For fucks sake. The guy was resisting arrest after the two officers were more than fucking patient with his inconsiderate drunk ass.

No justice? No peace? Did those clowns even watch the body cams?

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Siaperaz posted...

Unlawful termination. Don't worry the government will end up paying the cop for mistreating him.

Nancy Pelosi is soon to pass a law where cops like him, fired for abuse, are banned from ever being rehired as a cop anywhere in the US for the rest of their lives. good luck on that

Siaperaz posted...

I heard he will also get paid by a fund that Candance Owens will start.

Candace Owens is a black White Supremacist and a tool being used by Trump to fool people into thinking he isnt racist

YugiNoob posted...

What is the issue? The deceased was given a chance to comply, spoken to in a calm manner, a less lethal weapon was deployed, and still nothing worked.

The issues is he didnt need to be shot. If a couple of policemen cant takedown a drunk person, they have no business being policemen.

Imagine jumping from taser didnt work to Im gonna shoot this guy in the back

From all accounts of that story, the taser that the guy had taken had already been deployed. Tasers have to be reloaded, which is not something he couldve done while running away. Is it beyond the line of reasoning that they couldve simply pursued him and arrested him like their job says they should do?

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

The issues is he didnt need to be shot. If a couple of policemen cant takedown a drunk person, they have no business being policemen.

Imagine jumping from taser didnt work to Im gonna shoot this guy in the back

From all accounts of that story, the taser that the guy had taken had already been deployed. Tasers have to be reloaded, which is not something he couldve done while running away. Is it beyond the line of reasoning that they couldve simply pursued him and arrested him like their job says they should do?

Not all tasers are single shot. This idiot never shouldve escalated things the way he did. He was treated professionally and just said fuck off and assaulted the cops.


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Like a child throwing a tantrum. Even if said child picks up a spoon and tries to slap you with it while running away, doesn't mean you neutralize him/her by beating him/her to death.

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TIL a violent drunk with a taser = a child with a spoon

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YugiNoob posted...

TIL a violent drunk with a taser = a child with a spoon

Oh yea. And you, as the father of the child with the spoon- you have your wife following you, too. You know, as backup, just in case this child has super strength. And still, you decide to neutralize the child with a roundhouse kick..you know, just so he/she learns.

Both suspect and officer showed poor judgement and behaved terribly, but the officer has to be held to a higher standard than a drunk man.
Especially considering the officer had backup; it makes it an even tougher case for him to win. If he were alone, this would be a different case, IMO.

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YugiNoob posted...

Not all tasers are single shot. This idiot never shouldve escalated things the way he did. He was treated professionally and just said fuck off and assaulted the cops.

Im not trying to absolve anything dude did. I just dont think it was worth shooting him and killing him over.

i applaud the way the cops were patient with him. But it seems like when dude lost his head, they lost theirs too. I dont think lethal force was necessary in this case.

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Because those are the same cops, right?

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SrRd_RacinG posted...

Oh yea. And you, as the father of the child with the spoon- you have your wife following you, too. You know, as backup, just in case this child has super strength. And still, you decide to neutralize the child with a roundhouse kick..you know, just so he/she learns.

Both suspect and officer showed poor judgement and behaved terribly, but the officer has to be held to a higher standard than a drunk man.

Especially considering he had backup; it makes it an even tougher case for the fired officer. If he were alone, this would be a different case, IMO>

What in the hell is that analogy?


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YugiNoob posted...

What in the hell is that analogy?

I liked it, haha.

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I mean the part about roundhouse-ing a child was...interesting...

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YugiNoob posted...

What is the issue? The deceased was given a chance to comply, spoken to in a calm manner, a less lethal weapon was deployed, and still nothing worked.

The issue was then they killed him

There were a dozen other ways to handle that situation with no deaths. Something most US Police Departments and nearly every police department across the world doesn't struggle with.

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AssultTank posted...

They make multishot tasers for police departments just because if it misses, they may need a second shot. If I recall correctly, the standard APD taser is a 2 shot taser. Only one shot was deployed by the suspect. Two doses from a taser can cause permanent damage or death. The officer hit with and, was hit, with a taser already. It failed to stop Rayshard while causing the officer to go down.

So now you have one officer down, the other without a taser. The suspect has already used violence and stopped one officer, and has the ability to still use it on others...

I still dont think it warranted lethal force. Arent cops supposed to be trained to take taser shots just for exact cases like this?

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

I still dont think it warranted lethal force. Arent cops supposed to be trained to take taser shots just for exact cases like this?

I like this video on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUufUvy9LZ4

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Guns_of_Verdun posted...

I like this video on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUufUvy9LZ4

Respect

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Police killing a person for having a fucking taser is exactly the type of thing people are mad about

just because we have lived all our lives in a universe where for some reason three supposedly trained police cant restrain a drunk man without murdering him, doesnt mean thats the way it should be and we should all just be okay with that

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

The issues is he didnt need to be shot. If a couple of policemen cant takedown a drunk person, they have no business being policemen.

Imagine jumping from taser didnt work to Im gonna shoot this guy in the back

From all accounts of that story, the taser that the guy had taken had already been deployed. Tasers have to be reloaded, which is not something he couldve done while running away. Is it beyond the line of reasoning that they couldve simply pursued him and arrested him like their job says they should do?

I agree with this.

If police would have not shot the man and chased him down how much jail time do you think he would of got?

Zikten posted...

it's like I heard someone say on CNN

"white man walks into a black church and murders everyone inside. cops take him to the burger king drive through before going to prison"

"black man falls asleep at wendys, cops shoot him in the back"

Not surprised you'd hear this kind of thing on CNN. It's a racist network.

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Zikten posted...

"white man walks into a black church and murders everyone inside. cops take him to the burger king drive through before going to prison"

WOT


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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Not surprised you'd hear this kind of thing on CNN. It's a racist network.

I mean I'm not sure about racist, but it's pretty stupid. This is what's on their site

"The announcement about the two officers comes as protesters flooded streets of southeast Atlanta Saturday night, angry over the fatal shooting of Brooks, an unarmed black man who was killed by Atlanta police Friday night."

And then this

"As the scuffle broke up, the video shows Brooks beginning to run from the officers and he is seen holding what appears to be a stun gun in his right hand."

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Police killing a person for having a fucking taser is exactly the type of thing people are mad about

just because we have lived all our lives in a universe where for some reason three supposedly trained police cant restrain a drunk man without murdering him, doesnt mean thats the way it should be and we should all just be okay with that

A Drunk man who stole a cops weapon and fired at them. What if that drunk man stole one of the cops gun and tried to kill someone else.

Slayerblade11 posted...

A Drunk man who stole a cops weapon and fired at them. What if that drunk man stole one of the cops gun and tried to kill someone else.

This. I've seen some stupid comments like "He was killed for sleeping!". And here, he definitely wasn't killed just for having a taser. He fucking fought officers and stole a weapon.

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Slayerblade11 posted...

A Drunk man who stole a cops weapon and fired at them. What if that drunk man stole one of the cops gun and tried to kill someone else.

so now youre arguing that these cops are fucking incompetent and thats a reason not to fire them?

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TheGoldenEel posted...

so now youre arguing that these cops are fucking incompetent and thats a reason not to fire them?

I'll never understand this mindset of...if a criminal gets a hold of an officer's weapon during a physical struggle, the officer is a bad cop. You do know that training is helpful, but it can't prevent all negative outcomes 100% of the time, right? On average, an officer will come out on top of a struggle, but not always.

Expecting all of our human police officers to be RoboCop won't do your worldview any favors. Cops are humans and can make mistakes.

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TheGoldenEel posted...

so now youre arguing that these cops are fucking incompetent and thats a reason not to fire them?

People hold cops to impossible standards. They're not superheros.

Slayerblade11 posted...

A Drunk man who stole a cops weapon and fired at them. What if that drunk man stole one of the cops gun and tried to kill someone else.

But thats not what happened, and comparing the two scenarios is highly disingenuous.

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Slayerblade11 posted...

People hold cops to impossible standards. They're not superheros.

No, just standards

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ReturnOfThaJedi posted...

But thats not what happened, and comparing the two scenarios is highly disingenuous.

Yeah a cam on this one would make things a lot clearer.

Slayerblade11 posted...

Yeah a cam on this one would make things a lot clearer.

Im referring to what if he had stolen the gun part you posted.

Obviously thats a different situation than a non lethal taser with a range of what, 15-20 feet.

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There is no doubt that the decedent was the aggressor in the situation, but the question at the core of it all is: should the officer have used lethal force to stop him? The man was armed with a taser and had proven himself to be belligerent. Who knows what his thoughts or intentions were while clearly highly intoxicated. He could have tried to grab one of the officer's guns. He could have attacked people waiting in the drive-through. He could have just run off and that be the end of it. No one knows.

So I think it boils down to: could the officer have aimed for the man's legs to incapacitate him, and/or should he have?

I'm not going to offer an answer to that question because I cannot speak for the officer. I was not in that situation and cannot adequately understand the stress and thoughts and concerns that would be running through my mind. It's a situation that should be discussed fairly, but it certainly is not a killing as grievous as George Floyd.

Josiah_Is_Back posted...

So I think it boils down to: could the officer have aimed for the man's legs to incapacitate him

please shut the fuck up

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

please shut the fuck up

I politely decline your rude request but I will happily respond to any substantive objection you provide to my initial post.