Current Events > Protests perhaps riots going on in Atlanta now over the newest shooting.

(+) Yeah! (+)

scorpion41 posted...

LinkScorbunny posted...

Rayshard Brooks

please keep his family in your thoughts and prayers

these cops are pigs. Rightfully should be fired. Cant do their job right smdh

Except it was justified. Theyll be reinstated after the investigation and Atlanta will lose their minds.

We can only hope so

scorpion41 posted...

Except it was justified. Theyll be reinstated after the investigation and Atlanta will lose their minds.

Shut the fuck up
---

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

Shut the fuck up

Lol

---

scorpion41 posted...

Except it was justified. Theyll be reinstated after the investigation and Atlanta will lose their minds.

Nope. They're done, and rightfully so.

How does it feel being on the wrong side of history?
---

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

I don't know but I'm worried for his town. He absolutely should not be carrying a gun with a right to shoot someone.

It really is disturbing. It is an interesting glimpse though. He seems extremely convinced that what he is doing is right.

We used to have another cop who posted on here a lot. His name was OWNgineer I believe. He would post similar stuff and he would get more unhinged when these use of force cases made headlines. I can't recall seeing him in a long time.

It just seems like the mindset of police and how they view their role is just so pervasive. Im not sure how you fix that.

---

ThisGuyAreSick posted...

How does it feel being on the wrong side of history?

It's going to be a pretty scary future when cops have to just let criminals go once they start to resist arrest. You won't want to live in that future, either.

---

Houston posted...

It's going to be a pretty scary future when cops have to just let criminals go once they start to resist arrest. You won't want to live in that future, either.

Other countries don't seem to have this issue. It's not so scary in areas that weren't founded upon racism.

I also like that you think a future with cops that don't even know how to properly subdue someone without pulling a trigger is one that's worth living in. Lmfao.
---

Houston posted...

It's going to be a pretty scary future when cops have to just let criminals go once they start to resist arrest. You won't want to live in that future, either.

A drunk dude running away and sleeping in an alley after resisting arrest and being picked up the next day for drunk driving or taken to rehab isn't the societal horror you seem to think it is.

---

Houston posted...

It's going to be a pretty scary future when cops have to just let criminals go once they start to resist arrest. You won't want to live in that future, either.

Oh no, we'll be like Europe. The horror

---

legendary_zell posted...

A drunk dude running away and sleeping in an alley after resisting arrest and being picked up the next day for drunk driving or taken to rehab isn't the societal horror you seem to think it is.

What makes you think he won't resist arrest again when he's "picked up the next day"?

How would you go about finding him and arresting him? What if he barricades himself in the house? Then even more cops would be involved. What if he then leaves his house but cops try to arrest him and he refuses again? Or a police chase ensues that endangers the public? Try again the next day? Maybe one day he'll feel like being arrested? I'm not sure if you have a full grasp on how things work.


---

Houston posted...

What makes you think he won't resist arrest again when he's "picked up the next day"?

He'll run out of booze or money eventually.
---

It's sad how many people are actually trying to justify the cops killing this guy.

---

Yeahhh, this isn't the same as George Floyd. I just watched the video

---

I'm weak at this guy at 2:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh91nVRDhqg

He claims that the officer should have pulled a taser and tasered the dude running away, meanwhile he knew that the officer had his taser stolen. Like what.

Also gotta love the yellow sign in the background as he is talking.

---

Houston posted...

What makes you think he won't resist arrest again when he's "picked up the next day"?

How would you go about finding him and arresting him? What if he barricades himself in the house? Then even more cops would be involved. What if he then leaves his house but cops try to arrest him and he refuses again? Or a police chase ensues that endangers the public? Try again the next day? Maybe one day he'll feel like being arrested? I'm not sure if you have a full grasp on how things work.

How many what ifs can you stack up to justify executing a man? Don't you see that's a broken way of thinking? Instead of giving time for both the officer and the drunk guy to cool off, you want to both expand and compress the timeframe. You expand it by cooking up all of these horrible things the guy could do in the future and shrink it by making sure the cop is acting on the spur of the moment.

They had his car right there, they could show up at his house and pick him up. He couldn't do anything involving a car if they didn't want him to. Instead of allowing the possibility of a better outcome, you want to ensure the worst outcome immediately and dismiss any other alternative as naive and unrealistic. Well don't be surprised when the legitimacy of police continues to crater because I'm sure they agree with you and will act on it with predictable results. I am all to aware of how things work, how they work is the problem.

---

Just burn the US to the ground already well rebuild it

---

darkprince45 posted...

You dont know anything about what I do on the daily basis for my job. Im not sure what bad cops Im defending because this isnt a bad cop situation.

You're right, all I know about you is what you tell us and somehow it still makes you look really bad

---

Can't wait to hear Al Sharpton declare a guy who resisted arrest and attacked police officers to be some kind of symbolic hero.

---

It was not justified

the police is wrong point back period

the poor individual was murdered cause of his skin color

the police deserve to be defunded for not properly subduing him without lethal methods

Houston posted...

What makes you think he won't resist arrest again when he's "picked up the next day"?

How would you go about finding him and arresting him? What if he barricades himself in the house? Then even more cops would be involved. What if he then leaves his house but cops try to arrest him and he refuses again? Or a police chase ensues that endangers the public? Try again the next day? Maybe one day he'll feel like being arrested? I'm not sure if you have a full grasp on how things work.

His chance for being arrested was that night. Instead, he chose to fight the police (violently) which ultimately resulted in his death.

I hope you understand that police arrest people every day, we have warrants for a reason, and there's no reason to believe this guy would be different from anyone else who gets arrested in their home. Maybe he would resist, maybe not. It absolutely does not mean they get to execute him for running.

---

Skiggie posted...

Can't wait to hear Al Sharpton declare a guy who resisted arrest and attacked police officers to be some kind of symbolic hero.

Tagged
---

legendary_zell posted...

How many what ifs can you stack up to justify executing a man? Don't you see that's a broken way of thinking? Instead of giving time for both the officer and the drunk guy to cool off, you want to both expand and compress the timeframe. You expand it by cooking up all of these horrible things the guy could do in the future and shrink it by making sure the cop is acting on the spur of the moment.

They had his car right there, they could show up at his house and pick him up. He couldn't do anything involving a car if they didn't want him to. Instead of allowing the possibility of a better outcome, you want to ensure the worst outcome immediately and dismiss any other alternative as naive and unrealistic. Well don't be surprised when the legitimacy of police continues to crater because I'm sure they agree with you and will act on it with predictable results. I am all to aware of how things work, how they work is the problem.

You're operating on unrealistic ideas. You're insinuating that people who resist arrest and violently assault police should be dealt with when they're in a better mood. You're saying someone who just committed felonious assault on officers should just be allowed to go free until police eventually catch up with them. We don't know anything about this person's living situation and whether or not he would have access to other vehicles. Or whether or not he would even be at the address listed on his driver's license.

If police let everyone go who resisted arrest and assaulted them, it would take an even larger police force to track them down to attempt to arrest them again. Then what if they don't want to be arrested at that time, either?

---

They fired the cop who shot him and placed the other on administrative leave.

---

Houston posted...

You're operating on unrealistic ideas. You're insinuating that people who resist arrest and violently assault police should be dealt with when they're in a better mood. You're saying someone who just committed felonious assault on officers should just be allowed to go free until police eventually catch up with them. We don't know anything about this person's living situation and whether or not he would have access to other vehicles. Or whether or not he would even be at the address listed on his driver's license.

If police let everyone go who resisted arrest and assaulted them, it would take an even large police force to track them down to attempt to arrest them again. Then what if they don't want to be arrested at that time, either?

Yeah it is really crazy that people are pondering alternatives to giving police the power to kill without consequence. This is clearly the best case scenario and we should be thankful this is as bad as it gets.

---

Houston posted...

You're operating on unrealistic ideas. You're insinuating that people who resist arrest and violently assault police should be dealt with when they're in a better mood. You're saying someone who just committed felonious assault on officers should just be allowed to go free until police eventually catch up with them. We don't know anything about this person's living situation and whether or not he would have access to other vehicles. Or whether or not he would even be at the address listed on his driver's license.

If police let everyone go who resisted arrest and assaulted them, it would take an even larger police force to track them down to attempt to arrest them again. Then what if they don't want to be arrested at that time, either?

It wouldnt be the first time. Again, warrants exist for a reason. Killing someone should be a last resort.

---

eston posted...

You're right, all I know about you is what you tell us and somehow it still makes you look really bad

Which is what, looking at things from the legal perspective and not emotions like you are? Thats how you judge a situation like this and thats my opinion. Being level headed isnt a bad trait

---

You know how you avoid all this mess? Stop committing crimes.

Did the guy deserve to get shot for using a taser against an officer?

Probably not, but the guy played with fire when he resisted and then stole the officer's weapon.

Play with fire then prepare to get burnt.

Cops usually call out I got lethal! And Ive never heard them ever say that when they grab their taser.

So I cant see how a trained cop couldnt spot the difference and figured a lethal use of form was justified when the tased had already failed deployment. You cant use a taser again... its deactivated after the miss. I see no reason for this one.

2020 will go down as one of the worst years in modern history.

---

Is the Wendy's parking lot footage all that is available to the public right now?

Going over said footage a few times, I find it hard to believe that man accomplished all that while intoxicated. It had to been a low reading or a buzz at best.

There's a lot that needs to analyzed here, and I feel like the story should not had been made public as fast as it did outside of agenda.

I'll apologize if I sound insensitive firstly, but, the footage itself seems fishy.

The first thing that comes to mind when incident like this happen is what makes these stories so spotlight worthy, but then it's obvious.

White polices + dead black male = guaranteed riots and damages.

Mr_LegendiaR posted...

Is the Wendy's parking lot footage all that is available to the public right now?

Going over said footage a few times, I find it hard to believe that man accomplished all that while intoxicated. It had to been a low reading or a buzz at best.

There's a lot that needs to analyzed here, and I feel like the story should not had been made public as fast as it did outside of agenda.

I'll apologize if I sound insensitive firstly, but, the footage itself seems fishy.

The first thing that comes to mind when incident like this happen is what makes these stories so spotlight worthy, but then it's obvious.

White polices + dead black male = guaranteed riots and damages.

There's other footage (on Youtube) that shows the man violently resisting the officers and punching one of them in the face. The Wendy's surveillance is the last footage available.

---

Houston posted...

There's other footage (on Youtube) that shows the man violently resisting the officers and punching one of them in the face. The Wendy's surveillance is the last footage available.

I'm sure the poor cop in body armor was so afraid for his life when that man punched him. He must have wet his diapy
---

darkprince45 posted...

Which is what, looking at things from the legal perspective and not emotions like you are? Thats how you judge a situation like this and thats my opinion. Being level headed isnt a bad trait

Of course not, but you aren't being level headed. You made up a whole scenario of this guy sitting on a cop and tasing him for 20 minutes that doesn't even make sense in the context of what happened. You get defensive while claiming not to be emotional. You fail to realize that we aren't talking about legal perspective here. Get some self-awareness, you aren't changing anyone's mind by posting the same self-serving bullshit you do in every topic

---

eston posted...

Of course not, but you aren't being level headed. You made up a whole scenario of this guy sitting on a cop and tasing him for 20 minutes that doesn't even make sense in the context of what happened. You get defensive while claiming not to be emotional. You fail to realize that we aren't talking about legal perspective here. Get some self-awareness, you aren't changing anyone's mind by posting the same self-serving bullshit you do in every topic

Of course not, because case law and legality doesn't matter. It has to fit the agenda

---

We already know how this ends from a legal standpoint, and it doesn't make it right in any way

---

Resisting arrest does not make murder ok

---

I think I'm on the cops' side for this one. Tasing an officer gives you potential access to the officer's gun.
---

Houston posted...

There's other footage (on Youtube) that shows the man violently resisting the officers and punching one of them in the face. The Wendy's surveillance is the last footage available.

I see it.

Tbh it's even more unclear. Correct me if I'm wrong but, weren't both the stolen taser and the second taser handle by the cop both fired? I can't find the sound of two taser shots in the body cam video. Also something about the timing of the chase and overall positioning seem to differ between footage.

I'll watch it more in the morning.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

I think I'm on the cops' side for this one. Tasing an officer gives you potential access to the officer's gun.

Resisting arrest does not justify you murdering a man by shooting him in the back at a far away distance where he is no threat to you

---

UnholyMudcrab posted...

I think I'm on the cops' side for this one. Tasing an officer gives you potential access to the officer's gun.

Did you watch the video? The officer was not incapacitated, the guy tased him while running from both officers, and continued to run after. He was shot while fleeing

---

TommyG663513 posted...

You feel shooting a taser at a cop means he is justified in killing you?

You are justified to use force. A non lethal weapon would work best, but that was stolen...if someone shoots a taser at you and you are incapacitated you are at the whim of whatever thay person then wants to do to you, especially If you are a cop and people know you carry a gun.

At this point I think people would rather a cop die over a civilian.
---

LightningAce11 posted...

At this point I think people would rather a cop die over a civilian.

I would rather nobody die, and this seems like a situation where nobody needed to

---

eston posted...

Did you watch the video? The officer was not incapacitated, the guy tased him while running from both officers, and continued to run after. He was shot while fleeing

So just let a guy who stole and used a weapon against the cops to just get away and assume he is just going to do nothing else nefarious? Maybe if you don't steal a non lethal, or less than lethal option this wouldn't happen. If the dude was made swiss cheese that is one thing, but no enforcement of any kind is taught to just let a criminal steal your weapon and let them escape.

Was he already tasered before he was shot?

---

Skiggie posted...

Was he already tasered before he was shot?

Yes, though it's unclear if it hit him. If it did, he was unaffected by it. He continued to run, then fired the taser at the officer chasing him.

So out of 2 tasers and 2 officers, one was stolen, one was deployed on the suspect (which didn't hit or didn't have an affect), and then the stolen taser was used by the suspect on an officer

---

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

So just let a guy who stole and used a weapon against the cops to just get away and assume he is just going to do nothing else nefarious? Maybe if you don't steal a non lethal, or less than lethal option this wouldn't happen. If the dude was made swiss cheese that is one thing, but no enforcement of any kind is taught to just let a criminal steal your weapon and let them escape.

Seems a little dramatic for a taser. Like, what is he going to do with a taser that makes it okay to just go ahead and end his life? And how far is a drunk guy who was just passed out in his car going to run, really? I'm of the opinion that kill or capture were not the only options here. They had his vehicle. That's a pretty good start if you want to track someone down. Way better than killing them.

---

eston posted...

Seems a little dramatic for a taser. Like, what is he going to do with a taser that makes it okay to just go ahead and end his life? And how far is a drunk guy who was just passed out in his car going to run, really? I'm of the opinion that kill or capture were not the only options here. They had his vehicle. That's a pretty good start if you want to track someone down. Way better than killing them.

What is he going to do with a taser? Incapacitate and then have the option of doing whatever the hell he wants.

So basically whatever your imagination comes up with makes it okay to execute a man rather than try to arrest him at a later date

Okay then

---

eston posted...

So basically whatever your imagination comes up with makes it okay to execute a man rather than try to arrest him at a later date

Okay then

"try to arrest him at a later date" --- what does that mean to you and what do you think that would look like? What if he didn't want to be arrested again?

You're talking about a guy who literally punched cops and wrestled with them on the ground, stole a taser off of one of them and then fired it at him.

Can you for one second even IMAGINE yourself doing something like this? This is a very violent person you're talking about and we don't even know if he had a record, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did and that's why he didn't want to be arrested.

You're defending violent criminals.

---