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SwayM
06/08/20 12:28:52 AM
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Like imagine saying I had pizza 4 times last year. I cant even look at another slice

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MabusIncarnate
06/08/20 12:35:19 AM
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I can always watch one, honestly. I can't get enough.

If you haven't seen The Boys series on Amazon you need to ASAP. It's a bit more like Deadpool with the anti-heroes, dark humor and high level of violence and gore. It's fantastic.

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Firewerx
06/08/20 2:38:25 PM
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You either watch them or you don't. You won't get fatigue if you don't watch them.

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Intro2Logic
06/08/20 2:39:45 PM
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Imagine thinking superhero movies are comparable to pizza

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The Top Crusader
06/08/20 2:40:08 PM
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I would say I am kinda less excited about them leading up to release and also probably less prone to re-watch them after the fact... but once they are out in theaters I'm like, "Oh man I have to get to the theater and see this!" I'm just not as super into it as I used to be--although that may come from being older etc than actual fatigue in the genre in general.

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Zikten
06/08/20 2:41:16 PM
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super hero fatigue is not a real thing. if you don't like the movies just don't watch them.

is there horror movie fatigue or war movie fatigue or comedy fatigue?
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Doe
06/08/20 2:41:32 PM
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Theres only so much they can do with the formula. But my superhero fatigue began moreso with My Hero Academia when I realized how risk averse and status quo upholding it was

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GodIsImaginary
06/08/20 2:42:07 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I can always watch one, honestly. I can't get enough.

If you haven't seen The Boys series on Amazon you need to ASAP. It's a bit more like Deadpool with the anti-heroes, dark humor and high level of violence and gore. It's fantastic.

The Boys and Deadpool are like the backlash against super hero fatigue, making fun of other super hero tropes.
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2SweetforTurtle
06/08/20 2:42:53 PM
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I dont have superhero fatigue but I am just generally disinterested in the next MCU lineup (other than Falcon and the Winter Soldier). I have no interest in Shang Chi or the Eternals or anything like that. They just seem like movies that were being made just for the sake of keeping the MCU going while they waited for their real properties to come back. Ill sit back and wait for Dr. Strange 2, Blade, X-men, F4.

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Zikten
06/08/20 2:43:35 PM
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Doe posted...
Theres only so much they can do with the formula.

then why have the same stories from the movies been told in comics for almost 100 years? nobody complained until they turned into movies

anyway, it's not even true because there are still thousands of stories from comic book history they haven't adapted yet. and hundreds of heroes and villains that have yet to be put in a movie
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sevihaimerej
06/08/20 2:49:07 PM
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Yeah, the pizza comparison doesn't work. Maybe a bologna sammich. The weird generic brand chicken/ pork bologna with the red shit on the outside and the weird little chunks of aspic interspersed around. You see, like the bologna sammich superhero movies seem like they follow about the same kinda plot with only a few variations (mayo v mustard, some kinda cheese, bread etc.). Then you get that one sammich that's like Iron Chef quality using exotic ingredients but is still technically a bologna sammich just one made by an insane/genius (joker? Ok, the dark knight at least)

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Doe
06/08/20 3:30:23 PM
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Zikten posted...
then why have the same stories from the movies been told in comics for almost 100 years? nobody complained until they turned into movies
Weird, it's almost like comics are a different and more niche medium than film, marketed to different people and age groups!

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Zikten
06/08/20 3:37:01 PM
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Doe posted...
Weird, it's almost like comics are a different and more niche medium than film, marketed to different people and age groups!


I am saying that there more variety of ideas in comic book lore than you think. the movies are not limited either. they have barely scratched the surface of what ideas they can use and can still do movies for a very long time
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CRON
06/08/20 3:37:45 PM
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Superhero movies suck though lmao

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Doe
06/08/20 4:11:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
I am saying that there more variety of ideas in comic book lore than you think. the movies are not limited either. they have barely scratched the surface of what ideas they can use and can still do movies for a very long time
And yet here we are

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BathroomWater
06/08/20 4:14:19 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
I can always watch one, honestly. I can't get enough.

If you haven't seen The Boys series on Amazon you need to ASAP. It's a bit more like Deadpool with the anti-heroes, dark humor and high level of violence and gore. It's fantastic.

Season 2 is supposed to drop mid-2020 too, according to Karl Urban.

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Gobstoppers12
06/08/20 4:14:56 PM
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Superheroes are never going to die off as a storytelling concept. Maybe these particular iterations of Marvel/DC universe movies will go out of style at some point, but superheroes have been a concept in storytelling since the very first stories were being told.

Gods, demigods, witches, demons, etc. are all variations on the same concept--people or creatures with unusual magical/supernatural abilities.

It's a simple formula, but quite effective: Give a person an ability, and see what happens around them as a result.

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Zikten
06/08/20 4:15:54 PM
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Doe posted...
And yet here we are

the movies are still going strong. or would be without the virus. they will be soon again

I don't care about the opinions of people who believe in super hero fatigue. their opinion means nothing. super hero fatigue doesn't exist. and the people who cite it, aren't fans anyway. so who cares what they think. clearly tons of people still love super hero movies. or they would not still be making them.
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DeadBankerDream
06/08/20 4:21:39 PM
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I wonder which opinion he doesn't like SwayM will next make a topic to ridicule.
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SwayM
06/08/20 6:59:58 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I wonder which opinion he doesn't like SwayM will next make a topic to ridicule.

You wanna take a second try on this sentence?

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FortuneCookie
06/08/20 7:08:17 PM
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SwayM posted...
Like imagine saying I had pizza 4 times last year. I cant even look at another slice

There are more pineapple pizzas than pepperonis produced. And characters seldom get individual focus because it's all about the ensemble casts. It's like toy cartoons from the 80s (G.I. Joe, Transformers), but with superheroes.

The last superhero movie I saw was Captain America: Civil War. It was fun, but it was mostly character cameos and big melee battles with little focus. I can't pay attention to Captain America's falling out with Iron Man because they're trying to convince me to go back and watch the Ant-Man movie I haven't seen yet and possibly buy a Black Panther t-shirt or two.

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Choco
06/08/20 7:10:26 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
If you haven't seen The Boys series on Amazon you need to ASAP. It's a bit more like Deadpool with the anti-heroes, dark humor and high level of violence and gore. It's fantastic.
omg i watched the trailer phor that and it was so cringy. why is "dark humor" always code phor "not phunny unless you're a 12 year old edgelord"

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FortuneCookie
06/08/20 7:11:47 PM
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Actually, Civil War isn't my last superhero movie. It was my last Marvel movie.

I've seen a few DC movies where they try to cut straight to the ensemble casts without building up characters individually. Crossovers require knowing who all (or at least most) of the respective parties are to fully enjoy it.

So, yeah. I guess it's more DC dragging things down because, between them and Marvel, it feels like they're just throwing a bunch of superheroes at the screen at one time and hoping one of them sells. At least in Marvel's case, they earned the right to coast by giving the characters individual films first.

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mehmeh1
06/08/20 7:12:26 PM
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Doe posted...
Theres only so much they can do with the formula. But my superhero fatigue began moreso with My Hero Academia when I realized how risk averse and status quo upholding it was
tbh, that's more on shonen than on superhero stuff

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Collat
06/08/20 7:13:57 PM
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I guess they are not for everyone, and a lot are very samey or mediocre, but the people who complain the most, go and watch every single one of them while saying how stupid they are like it's beneath them.
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AlisLandale
06/08/20 7:17:04 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I've seen a few DC movies where they try to cut straight to the ensemble casts without building up characters individually. Crossovers require knowing who all (or at least most) of the respective parties are to fully enjoy it.


You dont need to give each character a solo film before the crossover as long as the crossover is actually good.

Reminder that before the Justice League cartoon, only Superman and Batman had gotten their own series. And it was likely a lot of kids (if not most of its target demos) first exposure to most of those characters.

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Gobstoppers12
06/08/20 7:17:24 PM
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Choco posted...
phor

Choco posted...
phunny
why are you like this

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Gobstoppers12
06/08/20 7:18:45 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
You dont need to give each character a solo film before the crossover as long as the crossover is actually good.
Case in point: Black Panther was introduced in Civil War and was popular immediately. The execution of the character is much more important than any given solo film introduction. Hence why Norton's Hulk was 'meh' and everybody loved Ruffalo, even though the latter debuted in an Avengers movie and not a solo film.

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Proto_Spark
06/08/20 7:27:28 PM
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Choco posted...
omg i watched the trailer phor that and it was so cringy. why is "dark humor" always code phor "not phunny unless you're a 12 year old edgelord"

tbf, the show is a lot better than some of the trailers lead it to seem. I'd say its at least watching the first episode. It still has a lot of the dumb edgy "dark" humour.

It is also however, quite a bit reserved compared to the comics, so take that for what it will.
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Gobstoppers12
06/08/20 7:31:30 PM
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Here's another thing about superhero movies, in particular the current batch of Marvel/DC movies:

They build on one another. They've started to carry continuing stories from one movie to the next, with overarching plots, recurring characters, threads that weave through multiple entries to create a long buildup to a hotly anticipated event.

The box office returns for the major Avengers films paints a pretty vivid picture on how effectively the story was built up over time:

Avengers 1 made $1.5b worldwide.

Avengers 2 made $1.4b worldwide (note that it made slightly less than the previous film, which is a normal expectation for a sequel)

Infinity War made $2 billion based off the Thanos hype built into the other movies.

Endgame made $2.8 billion and is currently the highest grossing film ever released in theaters.

If they can build another huge story arc, they've got another 10 years of success awaiting them. If they falter the next arc, they're going to lose a lot of their potential, but superhero films have been going strong for well over ten years now (the early Spider Man and X-men films in the 2000s, as well as the Nolan Batman trilogy, all made bank before Iron Man came out and revolutionized the genre even further)

Nowadays we're getting a huge variety of superhero/comic book films to choose from. It's a type of film that can be applied to any genre. Ant-man is a heist movie. The Winter Soldier is basically a Bond film. Joker is a dark psychological thriller. Deadpool is a full-blown comedy/parody. You can make anything using superheroes and it will work, as long as the writers put some effort into making it work.

Most cheesy superhero movies from back in the day only 'failed' because the writing was poor and they missed a lot of opportunities to expand the scope of what comic book movies were capable of.

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FortuneCookie
06/08/20 8:03:08 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
You dont need to give each character a solo film before the crossover as long as the crossover is actually good.

Reminder that before the Justice League cartoon, only Superman and Batman had gotten their own series. And it was likely a lot of kids (if not most of its target demos) first exposure to most of those characters.

It helps to know who most of them are. And just knowing them from prior adaptations doesn't help either because each interpretation is different. Imagine going into Batman v Superman expecting Batman to be like Christian Bale.


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BignutzisBack
06/08/20 8:14:02 PM
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CRON posted...
Superhero movies suck though lmao



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Smackems
06/08/20 8:16:35 PM
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CRON posted...
Superhero movies suck though lmao


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KeeperOfShadows
06/08/20 8:23:59 PM
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Zikten posted...
super hero fatigue is not a real thing. if you don't like the movies just don't watch them.

is there horror movie fatigue or war movie fatigue or comedy fatigue?

Yes. There's "fatigue" for everything. Some people just get tired of similar concepts after seeing them too often. Is it really that unbelievable?

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SwayM
06/08/20 8:38:31 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
There are more pineapple pizzas than pepperonis produced

You say this like this is a bad thing in any reality.

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AlisLandale
06/08/20 9:18:27 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
You're comparing a tv show to a movie though


Oh. Youre right. If only there was some example of an ensemble superhero film that was audiences first exposure to every character.

if only...

hmmm...




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Collat
06/09/20 3:16:56 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
Oh. Youre right. If only there was some example of an ensemble superhero film that was audiences first exposure to every character.

if only...

hmmm...

The Guardians are mostly known as a team and were pretty obscure before the movie came out. There is no way any of them would get a solo movie first.
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Garioshi
06/09/20 3:20:40 AM
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I've seen about 70 superhero movies and I'm not tired of them yet.

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archedsoul
06/09/20 3:20:52 AM
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I'm actually pretty starved. We're about 3 weeks from going a full year with nothing from the MCU.

Joker was great. BoP wasn't bad but it's not exactly what I was looking for when it comes to superheroe stuff. Though, neither was Joker.

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