Current Events > If people want police reform...they really should be voting this election

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Mackorov
06/05/20 7:42:04 AM
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that's truly the best way to change the public institutions. It comes from top down. Nothing will change from these protests with a certain orangutan still in power.

@bernie bros, srsly even if you hate Biden too, JUST VOTE FOR HIM
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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 7:49:15 AM
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>police reform
>joe biden

LMFAO
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Mackorov
06/05/20 7:52:16 AM
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Biden has been openly criticisng the police a long time now.

But hey, if Trump fits your bill, by all means... have fun for the next 5 years
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Propane4Sale
06/05/20 7:53:32 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
>police reform
>joe biden

LMFAO


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Antifar
06/05/20 7:53:51 AM
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There are 5 months until election day. You'd better have something for the angry crowds between now and then.
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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 7:56:45 AM
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Mackorov posted...
Biden has been openly criticisng the police a long time now.

But hey, if Trump fits your bill, by all means... have fun for the next 5 years


Trump doesn't fit my bill. Neither does Biden.

Stop attempting to pull progressives towards the right when we're the ones trying to tell you that you're too fucking conservative

Biden wants to shoot me in the leg btw
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BroodRyu
06/05/20 8:01:30 AM
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Is there any record or article where Biden says hed do something about this situation if he was elected? Ive heard of no such thing.
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2Pacavelli
06/05/20 8:02:07 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
>police reform
>joe biden

LMFAO


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LightHawKnight
06/05/20 8:05:36 AM
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Not just the president as well, vote for the local government positions as well. Get rid of those racists in charge.

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Propane4Sale
06/05/20 8:06:44 AM
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BroodRyu posted...
Is there any record or article where Biden says hed do something about this situation if he was elected? Ive heard of no such thing.

There are none because he doesn't actually care. That's why he got destroyed by even Copmala Harris in the debates.

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Solid Sonic
06/05/20 8:07:44 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Not just the president as well, vote for the local government positions as well. Get rid of those racists in charge.

I dont even know who the hell runs my city, let alone how awful of a person they are.

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Thompson
06/05/20 8:08:53 AM
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Option 1 miiiight change things for the better. Maybe.
Option 2 will make things worse for sure.
Option 3 are all the independents and third parties that have no fucking chance because of FPTP AMERICA FUCK YEAH DEMOCRACY!

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Doom_Art
06/05/20 8:10:41 AM
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Nah can't sorry both sides are the same you see

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 8:19:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Nah can't sorry both sides are the same you see


one enacted policy and perpetuated the broken criminal justice system that incarcerates the poor and minorities at an alarming capacity along with defending police unions that would go on to be protected from being prosecuted for gross misconduct on innocent lives, including the use of racial profiling - all of which has led to the moment we see today

the other is a full blown racist that defends all of that openly and adds fuel to the fire whenever he opens his mouth

you're asking me to choose between a bullet to the head or a bullet to the chest and shaming me for wanting the gun to jam
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hockeybub89
06/05/20 8:22:06 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 8:29:24 AM
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Forgettable posted...

But clearly if you want the gun to jam it means you want a bullet to the head and a chest. Damn centrists and their indecisiveness, wanting to get shot in both places.


i'm not a centrist though that's the thing
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William_Rage
06/05/20 8:45:17 AM
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Or vote at the local level.
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VitalGetPrank
06/05/20 8:59:42 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Stop attempting to pull progressives towards the right when we're the ones trying to tell you that you're too fucking conservative
You're doing that yourself by being too butthurt to support the nominee. Hell, the Sandernistas that switched to Trump alone could have given the election to Clinton had they handled their loss like an adult.

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Southernfatman
06/05/20 9:04:12 AM
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Half measures and band aids are better than it getting worse I guess. It's still folly to trust the Democrats to do the right thing.

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monkmith
06/05/20 9:04:53 AM
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i feel like this topic epitomizes the reason why we need mandatory civics classes in public school...

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Balrog0
06/05/20 9:06:07 AM
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I mean, no one runs against these prosecutors etc

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Squall28
06/05/20 9:06:15 AM
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I'm expecting the same thing as Bernie turnouts. People will scream and grandstand about the issues, but when it comes time to do stuff, they'll be gone.

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mustachedmystic
06/05/20 9:06:18 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
Trump doesn't fit my bill. Neither does Biden.

Stop attempting to pull progressives towards the right when we're the ones trying to tell you that you're too fucking conservative

Biden wants to shoot me in the leg btw

You have two choices, Biden, or Trump. And if you don't vote, you are choosing Trump.

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ScazarMeltex
06/05/20 9:25:08 AM
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Voting doesn't help shit. Every major change in this country was brought through direct action that forces elected officials to change policies. Labor movement, women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the vietnam war, gay rights, all of them from people being in the streets demanding that shit improve.

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JBaLLEN66
06/05/20 9:27:25 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Voting doesn't help shit. Every major change in this country was brought through direct action that forces elected officials to change policies. Labor movement, women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the vietnam war, gay rights, all of them from people being in the streets demanding that shit improve.

yep

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ScazarMeltex
06/05/20 9:28:01 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
I dont even know who the hell runs my city, let alone how awful of a person they are.
That is your fault for not being engaged enough to know anything about your local politics. Especially with the internet. You have the ability to go to their website and see who they are and what they are about.

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monkmith
06/05/20 9:43:18 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Voting doesn't help shit. Every major change in this country was brought through direct action that forces elected officials to change policies. Labor movement, women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the vietnam war, gay rights, all of them from people being in the streets demanding that shit improve.
exactly, like how the 60s race riots got the "law and order" president nixon elected and helped depress property values in predominantly black neighborhoods for the next 20 years...

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Solid Sonic
06/05/20 9:43:37 AM
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I tried to get more invested in the 2016 election but the more I dug the more I kept questioning if I was reading biased and agendafied materials.

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averagejoel
06/05/20 9:50:05 AM
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first of all: police reform is useless. defunding and abolition is what's needed.

second: what policies will Biden enact to reform the police? he's obviously not gonna touch defunding and abolition at all

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monkmith
06/05/20 9:50:53 AM
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averagejoel posted...
first of all: police reform is useless. defunding and abolition is what's needed.

second: what policies will Biden enact to reform the police? he's obviously not gonna touch defunding and abolition at all
you realize that presidents dont unilaterally write and enact laws right?

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averagejoel
06/05/20 9:57:24 AM
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monkmith posted...
you realize that presidents dont unilaterally write and enact laws right?
did you reply to the right person? lol

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Doom_Art
06/05/20 10:33:42 AM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...


you're asking me to choose between a bullet to the head or a bullet to the chest and shaming me for wanting the gun to jam
Ahhhh sometimes I despise my generation

Falls into "both sides are just as bad" shit so god damned easily it's depressing

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averagejoel
06/05/20 10:35:47 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Ahhhh sometimes I despise my generation

Falls into "both sides are just as bad" shit so god damned easily it's depressing
the democratic party and the republican party are not on different sides

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Doom_Art
06/05/20 10:36:14 AM
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Case in point

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voldothegr8
06/05/20 10:49:46 AM
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The presidential election won't do shit, people have to inform themselves of local stuff and root it out from there.
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Doom_Art
06/05/20 10:51:29 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
The presidential election won't do shit, people have to inform themselves of local stuff and root it out from there.
Nah why bother voting when dismissing every candidate as a corporatist and complaining online feels more productive

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MARKINGRAM22
06/05/20 10:58:32 AM
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Mackorov posted...
Biden has been openly criticisng the police a long time now.

But hey, if Trump fits your bill, by all means... have fun for the next 5 years
Obama ran on a non interventionist foreign policy....
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averagejoel
06/05/20 11:03:55 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Case in point
you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of where the sentiment is coming from

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Balrog0
06/05/20 11:05:59 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Voting doesn't help shit. Every major change in this country was brought through direct action that forces elected officials to change policies. Labor movement, women's suffrage, civil rights, ending the vietnam war, gay rights, all of them from people being in the streets demanding that shit improve.

I feel like the thing many modern organizers miss is how electoral politics and movement politics both work together to influence meaningful and lasting change. Neither element works alone (imo)

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 12:36:04 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...


You have two choices, Biden, or Trump. And if you don't vote, you are choosing Trump.


If I don't vote I'm choosing Biden too. Stop with this nonsense.
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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 12:37:21 PM
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Doom_Art posted...

Ahhhh sometimes I despise my generation

Falls into "both sides are just as bad" shit so god damned easily it's depressing


you despise your generation because they don't bootlick the corporate neoliberals like you do?
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Payzmaykr
06/05/20 12:37:49 PM
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Police reform is not a main point on either of the two main candidates platforms. The federal government will say, We arent getting involved in this mess. The states can handle it. Then you will have fifty states all will drastically different rules.
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Doom_Art
06/05/20 12:38:06 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
bootlick

ThisGuyAreSick posted...
neoliberals


hey i got BINGO

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averagejoel
06/05/20 12:40:14 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
hey i got BINGO
you should consider engaging with ideas that you disagree with instead of dismissing them like this

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/05/20 12:57:44 PM
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