Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 302: No Justice, No Peace

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

This is a man literally openly despised by the entire nation of Japan and it's government for being a piece of crap.

That was Logan Paul, for the record.

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Wait.

Those are different people?

Uhhh yes, are you for real?
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Logan is Jake's brother.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Get some GoFundMes going for any police who verifiably resign

I mean its not the most urgent cause but its great to see

Not sure that probably disproportionately "good' cops resigning will improve things tbqh

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They literally look the same to me and are both shitty YouTube personalities who pull the same bullshit.

I never had a clue.

Jakyl25 posted...

Or even child abusers. Sports fans have weird priorities

Not just sports fans

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KiQvO8OC7jc

Applies to society as a whole and is one of the biggest reasons we as a species suck

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Not sure that probably disproportionately "good' cops resigning will improve things tbqh

While I wont say All Cops Are Bad, I will say there are no good cops in corrupt precincts.
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https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/1268560617566240768?s=21

The irony
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https://twitter.com/KHOU/status/1268618019300798464

jesus fucking christ these soulless monsters

same woman was calling COVID a Democratic Hoax, now she's just pulling the same shit a fucking murder

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I love how the idea that "these four cops were bad people and racist" is so unfathomable that, to them, the more likely theory is a vast deep state conspiracy meant to make Trump look bad.

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"these four cops were bad people" would still in the theory, which would at least require some cops to be in on it to stage the killing!

so four cops are bad people? oh yeah sure, but racist? NO WAY THIS DOESN'T ADD UP, the black man and the four cops involved sacrificed their lives to take down Trump!

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Why is it so crazy to think that all bad news is just hoaxes? Trump already made America great again, so it's impossible for anything bad to happen.
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So apparently it's looking like the management over at the NYT is going to claim that NONE OF THEM read the Tom Cotton piece before it was published. We'll have to see if this pans out.

https://twitter.com/KatzOnEarth/status/1268654761135538176?s=19

Have to say, it seems more likely to me they're just gaging exactly which kind of flack they would rather get, and they've decided they would prefer incompetence.

NYT had an op-ed written by the literal Taliban not even 4 months ago.
if that page is good enough for a literal terrorist organization, it's good enough for everything else. this is all virtue signaling to the highest degree and trying to act innocent.


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Wanglicious posted...

if that page is good enough for a literal terrorist organization, it's good enough for everything else.

Or, you could say its not good for anything
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Jakyl25 posted...

Get some GoFundMes going for any police who verifiably resign

I mean its not the most urgent cause but its great to see

You really need to stay consistent on the acab thing are not. All cops are bad people. But, if they resign they are magically good again! Lol.

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HashtagSEP posted...

Oh, there's also apparently a video of him with somebody who breaks into a PF Chang's, starts looting, and hands him a stolen bottle of vodka, which he takes.

So yeah.

Yeah, he was outted as a looter in video a long time ago.

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Corrik7 posted...

All cops are bad people. But, if they resign they are magically good again! Lol.

uh yes, it's possible for human beings to improve

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Corrik7 posted...

You really need to stay consistent on the acab thing are not. All cops are bad people. But, if they resign they are magically good again! Lol.

You still really have no idea what youre talking about even after so many people have tried to inform you. Its staggering.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

uh yes, it's possible for human beings to improve

Lol. This is the dumbest take I have ever seen.

All cops are bad!

This one resigned, let's send him money in a go fund me!

Omg this young guy who has been a good person his whole life joined the ranks to replace him. Bad now!

Your literal only solution is no cops under your decree.

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Corrik7 posted...

Your literal only solution is no cops under your decree.

Ok Im wrong, you do understand!
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Jakyl25 posted...

You still really have no idea what youre talking about even after so many people have tried to inform you. Its staggering.

Nope. It is just easily broken logic that if you ever tried arguing outside of an echo chamber would have you laughed at. Try leaving your bubble sometime with an argument such as all cops are bad!!!! Resign and become good and we shower you with monies!!!

If anything, I would posit more good cops are resigning right now than bad ones. Which means you are forcing good cops to quit and leave the force to bad ones.

Which probably does support if you resign you get the monies argument. But, it also it counter productive to the goal of making the police better and definitely is against the acab motto.

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Corrik7 posted...

You really need to stay consistent on the acab thing are not. All cops are bad people. But, if they resign they are magically good again! Lol.

If they quit, theyre not cops anymore?

dude its not that complicated

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Jakyl25 posted...

Ok Im wrong, you do understand!

Which is also the dumbest thing in all of history. But, you are on the take as being for insurrection and anarchy, so yeah. However, most people spouting this are not where you are. They want improvement. Not chaos.

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Jakyl why do you try.

Corrik7 posted...

This is the dumbest take I have ever seen.

how many times have you said that before

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

If they quit, theyre not cops anymore?

dude its not that complicated

You aren't a good or bad person merely because of the job you do. You are a good or bad person based on who you are as a person. It really isn't that complicated.

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Corrik7 posted...

You aren't a good or bad person merely because of the job you do. You are a good or bad person based on who you are as a person. It really isn't that complicated.

Yeah, you could have a professional hitman who's a saint!

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Corrik7 posted...

You aren't a good or bad person merely because of the job you do.

You really cant imagine even a hypothetical job that would make anyone who wanted it bad by default?

For example: President of the United States
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This topic has gotten very bad lately. Lots of people just venting anger.

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Corrik7 posted...

Which is also the dumbest thing in all of history. But, you are on the take as being for insurrection and anarchy, so yeah. However, most people spouting this are not where you are. They want improvement. Not chaos.

Also I disagree with this. Most people who say ACAB want the abolition of police departments. There might be some trendy people who think its just a cool rebellious thing to say, but I mean anyone who has taken the time to research what its about and WHY people say it
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Jakyl25 posted...

You still really have no idea what youre talking about even after so many people have tried to inform you. Its staggering.

While you are generally a good poster who explains his positions, 70% of the leftist posters here do not include an ounce of explanation in their posts. All of their drivel consists of posting links and flaming people. So that would not count as "informing."

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Corrik7 posted...

You aren't a good or bad person merely because of the job you do. You are a good or bad person based on who you are as a person. It really isn't that complicated.

I dunno, off the top of my head, I think someone who manages a sweatshop is a bad person.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Also I disagree with this. Most people who say ACAB want the abolition of police departments. There might be some trendy people who think its just a cool rebellious thing to say, but I mean anyone who has taken the time to research what its about and WHY people say it

People who want the abolishment of the police also likely want anarchy and/or are criminals.

You honestly believe that America could survive as a nation without any police force? You honestly think that would even work?

Now, I am expecting you to answer them from a mindset that isn't anarchy, overthrow the government angle.

Even in the communist dreams or socialist dreams or whatever, they are never without police forces.

I doubt you would ever see a candidate ever who would run on a no police platform.

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Corrik7 posted...

People who want the abolishment of the police also likely want anarchy and/or are criminals.

You honestly believe that America could survive as a nation without any police force? You honestly think that would even work?

Now, I am expecting you to answer them from a mindset that isn't anarchy, overthrow the government angle.

Even in the communist dreams or socialist dreams or whatever, they are never without police forces.

I doubt you would ever see a candidate ever who would run on a no police platform.

Uh, according to Marx eventually there will be no countries, no police, and no armies.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I dunno, off the top of my head, I think someone who manages a sweatshop is a bad person.

Generally. Sure, if you specificize to a certain action, you could do that.

In this case, are all business owners bad or shop owners? No. Obviously not.

Are all soldiers bad people? No. Obviously not.

Are all government officials bad people...? Errrr. Obviously not... = /

All all cops bad people? Obviously not. I mean, there are cops that legitimately lay their life on the line every day to protect people like they are supposed to. Because of some bad cops you are painting them as bad people and making them want to quick... legitimate heros and saviors of lives.

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Corrik7 posted...

I doubt you would ever see a candidate ever who would run on a no police platform.

The conversation has finally started

https://twitter.com/mplsward3/status/1267891892722831361?s=21

https://www.insider.com/minneapolis-city-council-members-look-to-disband-police-department-2020-6
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red sox 777 posted...

Uh, according to Marx eventually there will be no countries, no police, and no armies.

And?

I mean, Marx was pretty much a hypocrite. He also spouted off about taking everyone's property from them. The removal of the media and not allowing individuality.

Cops in his desires weren't really an end goal, they were just useless as they are now. He viewed any cop who wasn't going around arresting capitalists as protecting capitalists and thus the enemy. His vision was of course purges like in Russia where the police arrested dissenters, instead of trying to help the people themself directly.

Not sure he is a role model to look up to for many.

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Jakyl25 posted...

The conversation has finally started

https://twitter.com/mplsward3/status/1267891892722831361?s=21

https://www.insider.com/minneapolis-city-council-members-look-to-disband-police-department-2020-6

Just trying to rename it. The Public Safety Force!

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Again, don't know why you try!

Corrik7 posted...

And?

I mean, Marx was pretty much a hypocrite. He also spouted off about taking everyone's property from them. The removal of the media and not allowing individuality.

Cops in his desires weren't really an end goal, they were just useless as they are now. He viewed any cop who wasn't going around arresting capitalists as protecting capitalists and thus the enemy. His vision was of course purges like in Russia where the police arrested dissenters, instead of trying to help the people themself directly.

Not sure he is a role model to look up to for many.

You were talking about in theory. The theory is there, it's like 170 years old. It's absolutely been contemplated.

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red sox 777 posted...

You were talking about in theory. The theory is there, it's like 170 years old. It's absolutely been contemplated.

The theory isn't of no police. It is of police that do a different function.

Since you have no individuality, property, or media to report on things, you don't need police in that capacity. You need police to just keep the government afloat. Government police to arrest them bloody capitalists.

Political leaders don't run on that.


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Corrik7 posted...

Generally. Sure, if you specificize to a certain action, you could do that.

In this case, are all business owners bad or shop owners? No. Obviously not.

Are all soldiers bad people? No. Obviously not.

Are all government officials bad people...? Errrr. Obviously not... = /

All all cops bad people? Obviously not. I mean, there are cops that legitimately lay their life on the line every day to protect people like they are supposed to. Because of some bad cops you are painting them as bad people and making them want to quick... legitimate heros and saviors of lives.

No I meant specifically.

All cops are bad unless they are actively speaking out against bad cops. Even then, when they stop shining a light on bad cops, they become bad cops. Thats the nature of power. They literally have the authority to infringe on peoples rights, its human nature for that to go to their heads if unchecked.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

No I meant specifically.

All cops are bad unless they are actively speaking out against bad cops. Even then, when they stop shining a light on bad cops, they become bad cops. Thats the nature of power. They literally have the authority to infringe on peoples rights, its human nature for that to go to their heads if unchecked.

I don't think many cops are coming out in support of violence and cops committing crime, Tony.

This may be weird to some, but there can be good cops that just aren't in the vicinity of bad cops or are not aware of bad cops around them. It doesn't mean they support them. You have to remember the percentage of bad people as cops isn't staggeringly high. It's pretty miniscule. When bad cops are found and outted, usually those good cops and such that led to their ouster and arrests don't get parades. It's simply a little story in the corner of a local paper for a day and that's it.

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Corrik7 posted...

You have to remember the percentage of bad people as cops isn't staggeringly high. It's pretty miniscule.

I don't think anyone has to or should "remember" that.

Silence is support.

Requiring all cops to have body cams all the time and feeds to the precinct at all times and allowing for community volunteers to watch feeds and express issues they had with those feeds is an interesting idea.

It, of course, needs INCREASED funding to police in order to do it. Decreasing funding, decreasing pay, and decreasing support of the police just continues to decrease quality of the police.

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Corrik7 posted...

It, of course, needs INCREASED funding to police in order to do it. Decreasing funding, decreasing pay, and decreasing support of the police just continues to decrease quality of the police.

I... kinda doubt that. I imagine the savings from demilitarizing police would be more than enough to cover a bunch of no-brainer reforms.

And would itself be a helpful step to take.

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1268688013791506450?s=21

So much for the theory that she was only allowed to make those votes because the Republicans had it covered without her

Or at the very least, so much for that being the case any longer
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Corrik7 posted...

You have to remember the percentage of bad people as cops isn't staggeringly high. It's pretty miniscule.

why do i have to remember something that's wrong

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