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ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 4:51:15 PM #1:	but not biden? wtf is this shitty logic --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940088102] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>but not biden? wtf is this shitty logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 4:53:56 PM #2:	A libertarian vote is a vote for Biden. A green party vote is a vote for Trump. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940088215] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>A libertarian vote is a vote for Biden. A green party vote is a vote for Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 4:55:31 PM #3:	ButteryMales posted... A libertarian vote is a vote for Biden. A green party vote is a vote for Trump. jill stein is the biggest trump supporter in america --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940088289] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>A libertarian vote is a vote for Biden. A green party vote is a vote for Trump.</quote> jill stein is the biggest trump supporter in america</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 06/02/20 4:58:16 PM #5:	Novice User User Since: Apr 2020 Karma: 34 Active Posts: 184 Total Badges: 4 <cite>_Rinku_ posted [p:940088401] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote><quote>Novice User User Since: Apr 2020 Karma: 34 Active Posts: 184 Total Badges: 4</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 06/02/20 5:00:54 PM #6:	every time i see this belief, i curse the man who got Ross Perot to drop out of the race. it's amazing how one lie can still be so influential 30 years later. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! fluffy-butt fluffy-butt oh fluffy fluffy fluffy fluffy-butt pop bum-bum-bum-bum <cite>Medussa posted [p:940088519] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>every time i see this belief, i curse the man who got Ross Perot to drop out of the race. it's amazing how one lie can still be so influential 30 years later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 5:01:03 PM #7:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... jill stein is the biggest trump supporter in america Yep, no one has done more to get Trump elected than Jill Stein. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940088528] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted...</cite><quote>jill stein is the biggest trump supporter in america</quote>Yep, no one has done more to get Trump elected than Jill Stein.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 06/02/20 5:16:28 PM #8:	A third party vote is for a third party. And if you wanna say you're throwing the vote away, then you could say it about either candidate --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:940089214] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>A third party vote is for a third party. And if you wanna say you're throwing the vote away, then you could say it about either candidate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreezerDoor 06/02/20 5:18:44 PM #9:	It depends on the state. You can throw your vote away in NY, California, Alabama, etc voting third party. Doing that in Ohio and Florida where the votes matter can be considered that. --- Edmonton Oilers winning a draft is like giving a homeless person money but knowing they are going to spend it on drugs and alcohol- Xunolix <cite>FreezerDoor posted [p:940089316] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>It depends on the state. You can throw your vote away in NY, California, Alabama, etc voting third party. Doing that in Ohio and Florida where the votes matter can be considered that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 5:22:02 PM #10:	Smackems posted... And if you wanna say you're throwing the vote away, then you could say it about either candidate Which candidates? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940089485] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted...</cite><quote>And if you wanna say you're throwing the vote away, then you could say it about either candidate</quote>Which candidates?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SapphireClassic 06/02/20 5:31:17 PM #11:	Liberal concern trolling, its sickening <cite>SapphireClassic posted [p:940089860] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Liberal concern trolling, its sickening </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/02/20 5:32:11 PM #12:	RoadsterUFO posted... libertarians are just pot smoking Republicans well... that's not wrong. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:940089900] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote> libertarians are just pot smoking Republicans</quote> well... that's not wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 06/02/20 5:32:33 PM #13:	A vote for Trump or Biden is a wasted vote tbh --- Placeholder signature until ImgTC comes back online <cite>FL81 posted [p:940089913] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>A vote for Trump or Biden is a wasted vote tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MachineJaipur 06/02/20 5:34:30 PM #14:	Until America implements something other than First Past the Post, voting third party is basically voting for the guy you don't want to win. It sucks. It's horrible. But it's the truth. <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940089977] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Until America implements something other than First Past the Post, voting third party is basically voting for the guy you don't want to win. It sucks. It's horrible. But it's the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatNM 06/02/20 5:36:48 PM #15:	MachineJaipur posted... Until America implements something other than First Past the Post, voting third party is basically voting for the guy you don't want to win. It sucks. It's horrible. But it's the truth. 3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:940090073] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted... </cite> <quote>Until America implements something other than First Past the Post, voting third party is basically voting for the guy you don't want to win. It sucks. It's horrible. But it's the truth.</quote> 3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 06/02/20 5:37:14 PM #16:	A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump Its also a vote for Biden And the third party candidate And voting three times is what we call voter fraud, don't vote third party! --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:940090091] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump Its also a vote for Biden And the third party candidate And voting three times is what we call voter fraud, don't vote third party! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 06/02/20 5:37:33 PM #17:	This is dumb. People not voting who they think is best but voting out of cynical politics is how we get bad politicians in the first place. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:940090104] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>This is dumb. People not voting who they think is best but voting out of cynical politics is how we get bad politicians in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MachineJaipur 06/02/20 5:38:35 PM #18:	TiamatNM posted... 3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party. There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940090134] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>TiamatNM posted... </cite> <quote>3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party.</quote>There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MachineJaipur 06/02/20 5:39:03 PM #19:	Were_Wyrm posted... A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump Its also a vote for Biden And the third party candidate And voting three times is what we call voter fraud, don't vote third party! This is great. <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940090145] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite> <quote>A vote for a third party is a vote for Trump Its also a vote for Biden And the third party candidate And voting three times is what we call voter fraud, don't vote third party!</quote>This is great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 5:39:34 PM #20:	Probably the one you most don't want to win Who decides who I don't want most to win? Does someone look at my vote history and guess who should get my vote instead? --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940090167] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote><quote>Probably the one you most don't want to win</quote> Who decides who I don't want most to win? Does someone look at my vote history and guess who should get my vote instead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 5:39:55 PM #21:	TiamatNM posted... 3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party. The problem for them is one of them is going to win. A two party system is just the inevitable consequence of human nature and first past the post. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940090185] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>TiamatNM posted...</cite><quote>3rd party voters don't want either of them to win. That's why they are voting 3rd party. </quote>The problem for them is one of them is going to win. A two party system is just the inevitable consequence of human nature and first past the post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 5:40:39 PM #22:	ButteryMales posted... A two party system is just the inevitable consequence of human nature TIL america is the representation of human nature --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940090206] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted...</cite> <quote>A two party system is just the inevitable consequence of human nature</quote> TIL america is the representation of human nature</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 06/02/20 5:40:48 PM #23:	MachineJaipur posted... There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win Except when it spoils the election vilify 3rd party voters for not having an effect, or if they do; either way we're the bad guys it's the 3rd party voters who are suddenly so bad, and not the millions of people who abstain from voting because they can't be bothered >_> --- Placeholder signature until ImgTC comes back online <cite>FL81 posted [p:940090216] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted... </cite> <quote>There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win</quote>Except when it spoils the election vilify 3rd party voters for not having an effect, or if they do; either way we're the bad guys it's the 3rd party voters who are suddenly so bad, and not the millions of people who abstain from voting because they can't be bothered >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 5:45:26 PM #24:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... TIL america is the representation of human nature https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940090396] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted...</cite><quote>TIL america is the representation of human nature</quote>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 06/02/20 5:46:49 PM #25:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... but not biden? wtf is this shitty logic It's because historically, fewer votes helps Republicans not democrats, and a third party vote is roughly equal to not voting at all. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:940090442] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>but not biden? wtf is this shitty logic</quote>It's because historically, fewer votes helps Republicans not democrats, and a third party vote is roughly equal to not voting at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 5:53:42 PM #26:	RadiantAdolin posted... It's because historically, fewer votes helps Republicans not democrats, and a third party vote is roughly equal to not voting at all. what is the math and policy that supports this? --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940090709] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RadiantAdolin posted...</cite> <quote> It's because historically, fewer votes helps Republicans not democrats, and a third party vote is roughly equal to not voting at all. </quote> what is the math and policy that supports this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MachineJaipur 06/02/20 5:56:36 PM #27:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... Who decides who I don't want most to win? Does someone look at my vote history and guess who should get my vote instead? That's on you. Regardless either way it goes, you're still getting someone you don't want and your vote could have gone to more effectively stop the person you didn't want. If America wants better politicians then it needs to implement run off voting <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940090836] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>Who decides who I don't want most to win? Does someone look at my vote history and guess who should get my vote instead?</quote>That's on you. Regardless either way it goes, you're still getting someone you don't want and your vote could have gone to more effectively stop the person you didn't want. If America wants better politicians then it needs to implement run off voting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadiantAdolin 06/02/20 5:59:07 PM #29:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... what is the math and policy that supports this? Google has tons and tons of examples. It's not even a new idea, I've heard about it since I first voted, and most recently that's why Trump was so vehemently against mail in voting, and why that hasn't been implemented nationwide. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:940090919] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>what is the math and policy that supports this?</quote>Google has tons and tons of examples. It's not even a new idea, I've heard about it since I first voted, and most recently that's why Trump was so vehemently against mail in voting, and why that hasn't been implemented nationwide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 6:01:48 PM #30:	RadiantAdolin posted... Google has tons and tons of examples. It's not even a new idea, I've heard about it since I first voted, and most recently that's why Trump was so vehemently against mail in voting, and why that hasn't been implemented nationwide. so what is the policy? a 3rd party vote goes to the incumbent or is there other logic? or is there math involved? 3rd party goes 33% to democrat and 66% to republican? i'm trying to figure this out --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940090998] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RadiantAdolin posted...</cite> <quote> Google has tons and tons of examples. It's not even a new idea, I've heard about it since I first voted, and most recently that's why Trump was so vehemently against mail in voting, and why that hasn't been implemented nationwide. </quote> so what is the policy? a 3rd party vote goes to the incumbent or is there other logic? or is there math involved? 3rd party goes 33% to democrat and 66% to republican? i'm trying to figure this out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMog123 06/02/20 6:03:49 PM #31:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... what is the math and policy that supports this? It's been "conventional wisdom" since the 80s with statistics both supporting and denying it. Generally non-voters are more racially diverse, less educated, less wealthy, and younger. Demographically, these people skew Democrat. Republicans skew towards older, less racially diverse, wealthier crowds. These people are far more likely to vote no matter what. So raising voter turnout generally favors Democrats. It's complicated and depends on numerous factors, but it's a generalization. That said, a 3rd party vote is a vote towards the party in power. You're letting the winner win and giving yourself less of a voice. This is a problem with the voting system of the US, so only do so if you don't mind letting either candidate win. --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif <cite>ChocoboMog123 posted [p:940091072] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>what is the math and policy that supports this?</quote>It's been "conventional wisdom" since the 80s with statistics both supporting and denying it. Generally non-voters are more racially diverse, less educated, less wealthy, and younger. Demographically, these people skew Democrat. Republicans skew towards older, less racially diverse, wealthier crowds. These people are far more likely to vote no matter what. So raising voter turnout generally favors Democrats. It's complicated and depends on numerous factors, but it's a generalization. That said, a 3rd party vote is a vote towards the party in power. You're letting the winner win and giving yourself less of a voice. This is a problem with the voting system of the US, so only do so if you don't mind letting either candidate win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 6:04:30 PM #32:	RoadsterUFO posted... Certain states grant ballot access based on voter turnout for the 3rd Party candidate, which saves a lot of time, money, and resources for down ballot candidates running in the next election. Costs them less money to lose in some states while the rest of the United States costs them the same amount to lose, wow so great. RoadsterUFO posted... The uncomfortable fact of the matter is that Joe Biden has a worse record on criminal justice than Neo-Fascist Donald Trump. Are you living under a rock? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940091096] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite><quote>Certain states grant ballot access based on voter turnout for the 3rd Party candidate, which saves a lot of time, money, and resources for down ballot candidates running in the next election.</quote>Costs them less money to lose in some states while the rest of the United States costs them the same amount to lose, wow so great. RoadsterUFO posted...</cite><quote>The uncomfortable fact of the matter is that Joe Biden has a worse record on criminal justice than Neo-Fascist Donald Trump.</quote>Are you living under a rock?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 06/02/20 6:05:24 PM #33:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... so what is the policy? a 3rd party vote goes to the incumbent or is there other logic? or is there math involved? 3rd party goes 33% to democrat and 66% to republican? i'm trying to figure this out It doesn't go anywhere. Republicans by and large HAVE fewer supporters, so they rely on democrats either not voting, being kept from voting, or in this case throwing away their vote <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:940091128] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>so what is the policy? a 3rd party vote goes to the incumbent or is there other logic? or is there math involved? 3rd party goes 33% to democrat and 66% to republican? i'm trying to figure this out</quote>It doesn't go anywhere. Republicans by and large HAVE fewer supporters, so they rely on democrats either not voting, being kept from voting, or in this case throwing away their vote </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 6:07:31 PM #34:	RadiantAdolin posted... It doesn't go anywhere. Republicans by and large HAVE fewer supporters, so they rely on democrats either not voting, being kept from voting, or in this case throwing away their vote but i'm struggling to see what this has to do with policy as far as I know voting third party votes third party. but maybe I'm wrong and they accidentally dump it into the republican box --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940091215] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RadiantAdolin posted...</cite> <quote> It doesn't go anywhere. Republicans by and large HAVE fewer supporters, so they rely on democrats either not voting, being kept from voting, or in this case throwing away their vote </quote> but i'm struggling to see what this has to do with policy as far as I know voting third party votes third party. but maybe I'm wrong and they accidentally dump it into the republican box</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 06/02/20 6:09:20 PM #35:	ThisGuyAreSick posted... but i'm struggling to see what this has to do with policy as far as I know voting third party votes third party. but maybe I'm wrong and they accidentally dump it into the republican box Voting third party is the same as not voting in most cases, and people not voting overall tends to help Republicans. Therefore, a third party vote(or not voting) is equivalent to voting for Republicans. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:940091281] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>ThisGuyAreSick posted... </cite> <quote>but i'm struggling to see what this has to do with policy as far as I know voting third party votes third party. but maybe I'm wrong and they accidentally dump it into the republican box</quote>Voting third party is the same as not voting in most cases, and people not voting overall tends to help Republicans. Therefore, a third party vote(or not voting) is equivalent to voting for Republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatNM 06/02/20 6:09:40 PM #36:	MachineJaipur posted... There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win No you aren't. They aren't entitled to your vote. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:940091296] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted... </cite> <quote>There's not enough of them to make a difference. So by voting third party you're voting for one of the other two to win. Probably the one you most don't want to win</quote> No you aren't. They aren't entitled to your vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatNM 06/02/20 6:11:24 PM #37:	I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:940091357] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 6:11:49 PM #38:	RadiantAdolin posted... Voting third party is the same as not voting in most cases, and people not voting overall tends to help Republicans. Therefore, a third party vote(or not voting) is equivalent to voting for Republicans. ah i didnt know this was the law. i'll be sure to vote for whatever the DNC puts out from now on, even if they are racist corrupt police criminal justice reform scumbags. i wasnt aware that my vote gets dumped in the red box they never taught that law to me growing up --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940091373] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RadiantAdolin posted...</cite> <quote> Voting third party is the same as not voting in most cases, and people not voting overall tends to help Republicans. Therefore, a third party vote(or not voting) is equivalent to voting for Republicans. </quote> ah i didnt know this was the law. i'll be sure to vote for whatever the DNC puts out from now on, even if they are racist corrupt police criminal justice reform scumbags. i wasnt aware that my vote gets dumped in the red box they never taught that law to me growing up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MachineJaipur 06/02/20 6:13:13 PM #40:	TiamatNM posted... I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys. By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief. <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940091438] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote><quote> </quote> TiamatNM posted... </cite> <quote>I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys.</quote>By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatNM 06/02/20 6:13:27 PM #41:	MachineJaipur posted... By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief. That's bullshit. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:940091451] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted... </cite> <quote>By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief.</quote> That's bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 6:14:06 PM #42:	MachineJaipur posted... By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief. that doesnt make sense i was told the law puts 3rd party votes in the republican box i'm so confused :( --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940091473] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted...</cite> <quote> By proxy you voted for Obama. Now whether or not that is a good or bad thing is entirely your belief. </quote> that doesnt make sense i was told the law puts 3rd party votes in the republican box i'm so confused :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 06/02/20 6:15:01 PM #43:	You guys need preferential voting. https://imgur.com/gallery/5SaXrob --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:940091507] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>You guys need preferential voting. https://imgur.com/gallery/5SaXrob </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 06/02/20 6:16:08 PM #44:	The party system was historically at least mildly interesting until the early 20th century. Perot has been the major outlier since then, but the 60s also had some action due to Democrats shifting their part base. --- Fervent appearing <cite>masticatingman posted [p:940091549] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>The party system was historically at least mildly interesting until the early 20th century. Perot has been the major outlier since then, but the 60s also had some action due to Democrats shifting their part base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMog123 06/02/20 6:18:45 PM #45:	TiamatNM posted... I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys. ChocoboMog123 posted... That said, a 3rd party vote is a vote towards the party in power. You're letting the winner win and giving yourself less of a voice. This is a problem with the voting system of the US, so only do so if you don't mind letting either candidate win. (I think I also voted for Gary Johnson.) --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif <cite>ChocoboMog123 posted [p:940091646] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>TiamatNM posted... </cite> <quote>I voted Gary Johnson in 2012. Did I vote for Obama or Romney? Tell me smart guys.</quote> <quote>ChocoboMog123 posted... </cite> That said, a 3rd party vote is a vote towards the party in power. You're letting the winner win and giving yourself less of a voice. This is a problem with the voting system of the US, so only do so if you don't mind letting either candidate win.</quote> (I think I also voted for Gary Johnson.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MachineJaipur 06/02/20 6:21:10 PM #46:	TiamatNM posted... That's bullshit. Just how it works though. The guy you voted for didn't win. The other guy didn't win. Obama won. You didn't offer up a resistance vote to Obama so by proxy you voted for Obama. Its like being part of a civil war, refusing to fight either side. By not fighting you indirectly supported the side that eventually wins <cite>MachineJaipur posted [p:940091732] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>TiamatNM posted... </cite> <quote>That's bullshit.</quote>Just how it works though. The guy you voted for didn't win. The other guy didn't win. Obama won. You didn't offer up a resistance vote to Obama so by proxy you voted for Obama. Its like being part of a civil war, refusing to fight either side. By not fighting you indirectly supported the side that eventually wins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 06/02/20 6:21:12 PM #47:	RoadsterUFO posted... he did help make a real effort to cut some abuses with the First Step Act That's a bipartisan bill that clearly didn't do enough. He's also running concentration camps and having reporters beat. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:940091736] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite><quote>he did help make a real effort to cut some abuses with the First Step Act</quote>That's a bipartisan bill that clearly didn't do enough. He's also running concentration camps and having reporters beat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 06/02/20 6:21:13 PM #48:	Elections are referendums on the incumbent. So yes, a split opposition vote is favoring the incumbent. If you want Trump out, you should vote for the Democratic candidate as they're the only one with a legitimate chance of winning the presidency versus him in 2020, especially if you live in a battleground state. And yes, the same goes for past elections. If you wanted Obama out in 2012 but didn't vote for Romney, you helped split his opposition and contributed albeit very minutely to his reelection. I've never voted Democratic for president, and I'm doing it this time around regardless to get the fucker out. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:940091739] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Elections are referendums on the incumbent. So yes, a split opposition vote is favoring the incumbent. If you want Trump out, you should vote for the Democratic candidate as they're the only one with a legitimate chance of winning the presidency versus him in 2020, especially if you live in a battleground state. And yes, the same goes for past elections. If you wanted Obama out in 2012 but didn't vote for Romney, you helped split his opposition and contributed albeit very minutely to his reelection. I've never voted Democratic for president, and I'm doing it this time around regardless to get the fucker out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatNM 06/02/20 6:22:54 PM #49:	Non-voters and third party voters don't get pushed into the total for whoever is currently the president. They still have to win the electoral college whether they are the incumbent or the challenger. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:940091805] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>Non-voters and third party voters don't get pushed into the total for whoever is currently the president. They still have to win the electoral college whether they are the incumbent or the challenger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThisGuyAreSick 06/02/20 6:22:54 PM #50:	MachineJaipur posted... Just how it works though. The guy you voted for didn't win. The other guy didn't win. Obama won. You didn't offer up a resistance vote to Obama so by proxy you voted for Obama. Its like being part of a civil war, refusing to fight either side. By not fighting you indirectly supported the side that eventually wins so wait crystal balls are involved now too? they predict the outcome and then put your vote in that candidate's box? this is all so confusing I didn't realize the american voting system was so complicated --- sigless <cite>ThisGuyAreSick posted [p:940091806] in "a 3r... [t:78740633]...</cite> <quote>MachineJaipur posted...</cite> <quote> Just how it works though. The guy you voted for didn't win. The other guy didn't win. Obama won. You didn't offer up a resistance vote to Obama so by proxy you voted for Obama. Its like being part of a civil war, refusing to fight either side. By not fighting you indirectly supported the side that eventually wins </quote> so wait crystal balls are involved now too? they predict the outcome and then put your vote in that candidate's box? this is all so confusing I didn't realize the american voting system was so complicated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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