Board 8 > I just beat Celeste level 7C

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F87fGC5mhcQ&feature=youtu.be

I had never recorded myself playing a game before, but this time I decided it was worth doing it. These were probably the most glorious 40 seconds of my gaming career until now.

This was the hardest level in the game so far, taking a whopping 757 tries to beat, almost all in the last room (the one in the video).

And it's still not the last level. There are another two after it, and I hear the final one is a monster.

Somehow, I enjoyed every try. This game has a way to make you enjoy the struggle (as lampshaded by the old lady). It doesn't have RNG or anything cheesy, it's just you and the level, and how precise you can make the movements. Even in some levels that have flying hazards that feel random (i. e. Celestial Resort and Core), it's possible to memorize the pattern and develop a path that always avoids them.

I've been playing this since around the start of the quarantine, and at this point it's probably one of my Top 10 games.

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can you explain what happened at 0:18? you jump up and it sends you sideways

this is impressive! i stopped well before this level, because it started feeling like the game was playing me, rather than the other way around. also i wasn't that amazing at it

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7c is the moment of truth in Celeste for sure

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banananor posted...

can you explain what happened at 0:18? you jump up and it sends you sideways

Basically wall jumping at the exact moment you dash upward and connect with the wall gives you bonus vertical momentum. They teach it to you in one of the C sides I believe.

Great job with the video! 7C took me around an hour and 8C took me about 2 hours so good luck with the rest of the game! Chapter 9 is a blast too

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One of the best stretches in all of gaming right here.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

These were probably the most glorious 40 seconds of my gaming career until now.

And this is exactly how I felt after finishing it!

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banananor posted...

can you explain what happened at 0:18? you jump up and it sends you sideways

this is impressive! i stopped well before this level, because it started feeling like the game was playing me, rather than the other way around. also i wasn't that amazing at it

If you dash upwards while close to a wall then press the jump button right before the dash ends (no need to move left or right, just jump), you will kick the wall and perform that move.

It's one of the many advanced hidden moves the devs put in the game. Some of them are taught in B and C sides (the post-game levels, for those who don't know). Some of them had to be found by the players. They tend to be used a lot in speedruns.

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https://celestegame.fandom.com/wiki/Moves

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good luck with 8C. if you really focus all your energy on overcoming it, you can pull off amazing moves like I did.

https://twitter.com/necta_rines/status/1173365144241393664


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transience posted...

good luck with 8C. if you really focus all your energy on overcoming it, you can pull off amazing moves like I did.

https://twitter.com/necta_rines/status/1173365144241393664

Hey at least you died before collecting the heart. I hear it's possible to die after picking it in that level.

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I actually missed the jump in 7c too out of pure excitement but the game is nice enough to let you respawn at the old woman. phew.

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I've been ranking the levels based on difficulty as I play them, too (because you never need a reason not to rank things):

7C
8B
3C
6B
4B
7B
5C
8A
3B
5B
6C
2C
4C
1C
7A
6A
1B
2B
3A
5A
4A
2A
1A

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hmm. I don't think any A is harder than a B or a C.

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and I'm surprised you haven't done 9 yet. 9 is hard, but not C hard and there's a ton of new stuff there.

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That section almost beat me. Took me a similar number of tries and almost an entire day trying it. There wasn't even any one jump I struggled with in particular... just the whole thing. So satisfying to finally nail it. If you've already done 5C there's nothing left that's on the same level other than Chapter 9, which isn't require for the Plat (8C's final section is long, and keeps it's trickiest bit right till the end, but once you learn the timings it's actually quite forgiving).

I actually clocked up the most deaths on 3B (c.1400) because I did it immediately after completing 3A (without doing either of the earlier B-sides). The soundtrack to that level was worth listening to for hours on end though.

Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot 3C. I got insanely lucky with the jumps off Oshiro's head on like my 20th try.

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that said, here is my first chapter 9 attempt

https://twitter.com/necta_rines/status/1172998076904046592

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transience posted...

hmm. I don't think any A is harder than a B or a C.

After I beat the game I found 1B and 2B to be a cakewalk.

While 8A has some of the most annoying mechanics in the game so it takes a while to be surpassed.

I also counted berries as part of the rankings since I collected almost all of them in the normal playthrough, so it's hard to divorce them from my perception of difficulty. And 8A's berries are insane.

transience posted...

and I'm surprised you haven't done 9 yet. 9 is hard, but not C hard and there's a ton of new stuff there.

People on Reddit keep saying it's the hardest one, so I saved it for last. Dunno how hard it will be for me, I guess we'll see.

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Kotetsu534 posted...

Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot 3C. I got insanely lucky with the jumps off Oshiro's head on like my 20th try.

Over 500 tries for 3C here. And it felt much more annoying than 7C, imo, despite being a little more forgiving. I hate jumping on Oshiro.

I thought 5C was a breeze in comparison.

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Chapter 9 is about as hard as 8C but it's also a complete package so it's like 9A 9B and 9C all as one level. It's also the epilogue so I would still recommend it as the last thing you do even if it were easier

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I found 5C really fun even though I died 100s of times. The epitome of enjoying failing over and over again, which I agree Celeste is probably the only game I've ever played where for almost the entire time playing it, I reall didn't care if I messed up or not. I think the super OST continuing uninterrupted really helps.

The only thing that really frustrated me was the analog stick sometimes while jumped - it needs to do so much (minor adjustments in her flight, and set up directions for jumps, sometimes in polar opposite directions in immediate succession) that it's easy to dash in the wrong direction.

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Of the final three levels (7C, 8C, 9), I think 7C was my favorite. 8C was by far my least favorite-- the way the new mechanic was implemented on the final screen was lame.

The only downside to 7C was the music, which was like endless buildup.

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I liked 8c. if I had to object to one, it'd be 3c or 5c.

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oh awesome a celeste topic

I recently fought my way to the top of the B-side mountain and i loved it. i've never been especially skilled at games like this and the feeling of accomplishment was amazing. I'd be up for trying some of the C-sides, but 8B felt like a complete wall to me and i'm now completely content to admit defeat, at least for the time being. every screen felt like it was on the level of the hardest rooms from 7B, and it just stopped being fun.

what a game though, holy shit.

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Yeah 8B is ridiculous.

It doesn't have a super long screen like the C sides but it has at least 5 shorter screens that are as hard as the hardest C sides.

So it's a long trek from one horrible room to another.

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Giggsalot posted...

oh awesome a celeste topic

I recently fought my way to the top of the B-side mountain and i loved it. i've never been especially skilled at games like this and the feeling of accomplishment was amazing. I'd be up for trying some of the C-sides, but 8B felt like a complete wall to me and i'm now completely content to admit defeat, at least for the time being. every screen felt like it was on the level of the hardest rooms from 7B, and it just stopped being fun.

what a game though, holy shit.

All of the C-Sides are much shorter if that changes your mind any! They're all two short screens and one long screen if I remember correctly.

Chapter 9, however, is the longest chapter in the game by far.

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He has to beat 8B to unlock the C sides, I'm afraid.

The C sides are mostly very fun, though. And like Gin just said, not too long. So I think it's worth it.

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VintageGin posted...

All of the C-Sides are much shorter if that changes your mind any! They're all two short screens and one long screen if I remember correctly.

Chapter 9, however, is the longest chapter in the game by far.

Yeah, after I "gave up" I watched a playthrough video of the C-sides, and I think I could manage a lot of them. Unfortunately, they're inaccessible to me until I fight through 8B. Maybe one day!

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everything looks doable in Celeste when you watch a video.

remember, Giggs, you can turn on assist mode and push through if you dislike the Core gimmick. it's not a bad thing! also, you can do the first half of Farewell without needing all the hearts.

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transience posted...

everything looks doable in Celeste when you watch a video.

remember, Giggs, you can turn on assist mode and push through if you dislike the Core gimmick. it's not a bad thing! also, you can do the first half of Farewell without needing all the hearts.

all good points! I might do that at some point. I wouldn't actually say that I dislike the Core gimmick (I found 8A lots of fun), 8B just felt like a clear step-up in difficulty.

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I've been playing this too. beat 6b tonight. only 290 deaths! progress!

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8C is hard.

It's not even close to 7C I think, but it's even longer which gives more room for error. Though the individual obstacles require less precision.

I managed to get near the end once but I jumped onto the spikes instead of performing that hyper jump the game wanted me to. LoL.

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yeah, dropping that on you after not having to do it all game at the end of a marathon like that is a little unfair. but once you do 9, the end of 8c isn't even that notable.

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Congrats! It's not something I'd be likely to do even given a hundred lifetimes.

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Did 8C. 240 deaths.

7C
8B
3C
6B
4B
7B
8C
5C
8A
3B
5B
6C
2C
4C
1C
7A
6A
1B
2B
3A
5A
4A
2A
1A

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I love how, for once, a Core level did not have fireballs.

And while it did have those fire blocks that launch you they were almost all in the second room, not in the last, and longest one.

So this Core level wasn't as heavy on timing based mechanics and was just a frantic obstacle course with almost every mechanic from the game. Best version of Chapter 8, easily.

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I've never played Celeste but this looks like a really hard version of Flappy Bird.

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Oh nice, a Celeste topic! I reached the summit in 7A about an hour ago, and my feelings of accomplishment and exhilaration were really something else - in part, I suppose, because I'm not good at platformers. Plus, that ending was absolutely perfect. I know I'm far from finished, though, as I haven't even started on the B-sides for one. I suppose I'll probably wind up needing to turn on Assist Mode at some point during those. Maybe I'll catalog my progress ITT.

Like Giggsalot said (and in retrospect, this whole post is pretty much repeating theirs), what a game. Thank you, @MZero !

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MetalmindStats posted...

Oh nice, a Celeste topic! I reached the summit in 7A about an hour ago, and my feelings of accomplishment and exhilaration were really something else - in part, I suppose, because I'm not good at platformers. Plus, that ending was absolutely perfect. I know I'm far from finished, though, as I haven't even started on the B-sides for one. I suppose I'll probably wind up needing to turn on Assist Mode at some point during those. Maybe I'll catalog my progress ITT.

Like Giggsalot said (and in retrospect, this whole post is pretty much repeating theirs), what a game. Thank you, @MZero !

If you beat the A sides you are ready for the B ones. This game's learning curve is perfect like that.

You might want to complete the strawberries first, they are good point of practice.

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I started playing 9.

Blowfish are weird but fun.

Jellyfish are fun until you have to drop and grab them again mid-flight. Then they are not that fun.

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

You might want to complete the strawberries first, they are good point of practice.

Oh yeah, I found 73/175 in total. I'll definitely be going back to the A-sides for more, especially since I haven't even unlocked some of the B-sides yet. (It took me a while to realize that the green diamonds replenish Madeline's dash, for one.)

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

I started playing 9.

Blowfish are weird but fun.

Jellyfish are fun until you have to drop and grab them again mid-flight. Then they are not that fun.

Yep, that summarizes it pretty well

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I was planning to stop after the area with the 5 keys but then a gorgeous violin music started and I had to kept going.

I'm starting to get the hang of jellyfish. Sort of.

I love how the game gives you a heart but Madeline is like NOPE.

That heart door feels like the game saying "Hey kiddo I see you are having fun but I hope you've AT LEAST beaten the B-sides cuz you are about to have a bad time".

That wavedashing tutorial is legendary.

Ok I've stopped. Gonna do the post-heart door part of the level another time.

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best powerpoint

I ripped through 7B and 8A last night and got the rest of the hearts. 8B tonight and then 9.

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MetalmindStats posted...

Oh nice, a Celeste topic! I reached the summit in 7A about an hour ago, and my feelings of accomplishment and exhilaration were really something else - in part, I suppose, because I'm not good at platformers. Plus, that ending was absolutely perfect. I know I'm far from finished, though, as I haven't even started on the B-sides for one. I suppose I'll probably wind up needing to turn on Assist Mode at some point during those. Maybe I'll catalog my progress ITT.

Like Giggsalot said (and in retrospect, this whole post is pretty much repeating theirs), what a game. Thank you, @MZero !

You earned it buddy! Good job in the Spread Betting! (I haven't actually played this game, but glad to hear you're enjoying it)

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Be honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYQ43fwgW7Y

Does Rayman Legends have a track like this?

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that's a great section in Farewell

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I've never learned to wavedash in Melee, but I can do it in Celeste!

I feel like the difficulty ramps up the more consecutive wavedashes there are though, and the game is happy to exploit that and throw a bunch of them at you at once.

But the soundtrack continues to be amazing.

Current stuck in a room that has one of those angry blocks with the hotel puffs on top of it. Pure masochism.

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Wavedashing in Celeste is a lot of fun once you get the hang of it.

I was actually slightly disappointed that I didn't get to mess around with it earlier in the game!

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I finished all the B sides and am at 174 strawberries. gotta find the last one in chapter 5 (augh finding them all in this level is a pain) and then i'm off to do Farewell again. super excited to give that a second try.

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Beating chapter 9 seems like a project for at least 2 weeks, tbh.

I went in this morning to see if I could get to the next checkpoint (I'm in the middle of Determination). Spend 30 minutes fighting against one room (the one with the ice blocks you jump on) until I finally beat it. Then got to the next room, died another 30 times, got frustrated and stopped.

It has like 100 rooms and at least half of them are painfully hard, so it's an exercise in patience.

It's still not as hard as 7C or maybe even 8B and 3C. But the extreme length makes it feel hard. Not even the A sides are this long, and they are much easier.

I've grown to really adore Farewell, but that first time felt like an endless climb that just never ended. it felt like I kept running into my absolute skill ceiling, only to finally push through and get confronted with another daunting challenge. that struggle is really profound, or I thought so.

it still kicks the hell out of me, but the second time is a little more manageable. you're about two thirds of the way through, so keep on pushing and most importantly, don't be afraid to put it down and come a few hours later.

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