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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 3:46:37 PM
#203:


People need to learn that when you post shit on social media, you aren't free of any consequences. Teens especially need to learn that just because you have a platform to say whatever you want doesn't mean you should.

No one forced this girl to write what she did AND no one forced her to then post it.

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DezDroppedFreak
06/02/20 3:47:40 PM
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It shouldn't be at all acceptable that BLM members get away with crimes by wearing masks while law-abiding citizens get their lives destroyed simply for disagreeing with them. There's BLM people who have good intentions. They should prove they're not racists by sticking up to violence and racist harassment mobs.

Have fun getting suspended for being racist trash mate. See you on your June account

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 3:48:20 PM
#207:


Jiggy101011 posted...
People need to learn that when you post shit on social media, you aren't free of any consequences. Teens especially need to learn that just because you have a platform to say whatever you want doesn't mean you should.

No one forced this girl to write what she did AND no one forced her to then post it.
Or we could just create new anti-discrimination laws, because law-abiding citizens shouldn't have to live in fear of being fired because their rich fuck-you-got-mine employers don't want to have to build another warehouse if theirs gets burned down.

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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 4:08:53 PM
#208:


freespeechfoot posted...
Or we could just create new anti-discrimination laws, because law-abiding citizens shouldn't have to live in fear of being fired because their rich fuck-you-got-mine employers don't want to have to build another warehouse if theirs gets burned down.

I know you feel like you are making a point, but you're not.

Here's a point I think you will understand Mr Alt: fair, next

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 4:13:09 PM
#209:


Jiggy101011 posted...
I know you feel like you are making a point, but you're not.

Here's a point I think you will understand Mr Alt: fair, next
Good luck explaining to minorities why Democrats are against a new civil rights act.

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BaphometFlux
06/02/20 4:15:52 PM
#210:


freespeechfoot is a lameass :D

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joe40001
06/02/20 4:20:41 PM
#211:


Jiggy101011 posted...
People need to learn that when you post shit on social media, you aren't free of any consequences. Teens especially need to learn that just because you have a platform to say whatever you want doesn't mean you should.

No one forced this girl to write what she did AND no one forced her to then post it.

It's words and ideas though, shitty dumb words and ideas, but mob justice trying to ruin her life doesn't help anything.

Argue with her, stop being friends with her, fight her dumb words with smart words, but trying to ruin her life isn't productive. It's just purely motivated by schadenfreude masquerading as righteousness

You don't change minds by being punitive to people who think or say the wrong things, you just punish the honest among the bigots. You still entrench the bigotry, and you end up getting people who learn not to say this shit in public but still vote to empower people who would actually do horrible and bigoted things.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 4:33:44 PM
#212:


Again, she knew the consequences, she knew shed piss people off, its her own damn fault. Her job and school have the right to no longer want to associate with her or give her money. Just because they found out from someone else on twitter doesnt change that. Its not just words. Those words and that mentality is why we have riots across the country right now. Its her own damn fault. No sympathy.

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CADE FOSTER
06/02/20 4:34:29 PM
#213:


these people dont deserve understanding fuck them being openly racist is Trumps thing stop imping him
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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 4:37:11 PM
#214:


joe40001 posted...
It's words and ideas though, shitty dumb words and ideas, but mob justice trying to ruin her life doesn't help anything.

Again, you are ignoring the fact that she posted this on the internet for the world to see. If she wants to say stupid shit to her friends at a mall, or write in a journal, or if she wants to say it behind closed doors with her family, fine. But she didnt do those things, instead she CHOSE to post her thoughts on the internet for the whole world to see.

Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, you may have surrounded yourself in a little bubble with like minded individuals but don't be shocked when you realize you made it so the whole world can read your "shitty dumb words".

If I were to go on Facebook and say "its 420 somewhere bitches!" and then light a joint, I wouldnt be shocked if I get a call the next day from my job saying I've been let go.

Own up to what you post

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joe40001
06/02/20 4:38:57 PM
#215:


VipaGTS posted...
Again, she knew the consequences, she knew shed piss people off, its her own damn fault. Her job and school have the right to no longer want to associate with her or give her money. Just because they found out from someone else on twitter doesnt change that. Its not just words. Those words and that mentality is why we have riots across the country right now. Its her own damn fault. No sympathy.

She didn't "know the consequences". There is no evidence that she assumed posting that was going to destroy her life. And her words aren't why we have riots, horrible actions are why we have riots. Mob justice against people like her is why we have Trump, and Trump is why we have such a shit country. So no I don't think empowering that justice helps things.

Again, I think this is much more of people being (justifiably) angry at a lot of the world, and so they want to watch those who are being shitbirds suffer/burn/etc, but if we tried to be constructive and objective I don't think this would actually be the thing most likely to help society. I think it might be the thing that feels the best for angry people, and I get that, but I honestly don't think it helps.

So if the goal is to feel good by being punitive to somebody with a shitty opinion, yes no mercy, no sympathy. If the goal is to help things get better, then call her out and disagree with her, but don't doxx/mob justice her out of her career/life.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 4:43:46 PM
#216:


Dumb argument. Just like crushing someones neck with you knee and claiming you didnt know it would kill him.

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Doom_Art
06/02/20 4:44:25 PM
#217:


joe40001 posted...
She didn't "know the consequences".
"Might as well piss everyone off. :)"

I don't know why anyone would feel bad for her. She got exactly what she seemed to want out of that tweet.

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iPhone_7
06/02/20 4:46:47 PM
#218:


anything happen to her yet, like kicked out of college or something.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 4:47:56 PM
#219:


iPhone_7 posted...
anything happen to her yet, like kicked out of college or something.
Shes been fired from her job and I think the school is looking into taking back her scholarship or whatever she had.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 4:52:30 PM
#220:


Its kinda like going up to someone and saying hit me, then crying when you get hit. She accomplished what she said she wanted to do. She got people mad. With that came some consequences and those consequences didnt come from twitter people. They came from the job and school she represents choosing not to associate with her behavior anymore. Welcome to the world. She should take this as a lesson and learn from it, not fall further into becoming an idiotic red hat because people stepped up to her after she threw the first stone.

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 5:01:44 PM
#221:


Jiggy101011 posted...
If I were to go on Facebook and say "its 420 somewhere bitches!" and then light a joint, I wouldnt be shocked if I get a call the next day from my job saying I've been let go.
You shouldn't be fired from your job for smoking a plant and other people shouldn't be fired from their jobs for disagreeing with a movement that still has an unaccounted-for fringe violence problem. We probably need much better labor laws.

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 5:04:23 PM
#223:


And by the way, if things flip and peaceful BLM protesters start getting treated this way by employers and lumped in with the rioters, that should probably be against the law too. We need to hold violent criminals accountable while also protecting freedom of expression on all sides. I'm totally serious about this.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 5:11:00 PM
#224:


freedom of expression isn't at risk. she expressed herself and is still free. the cops didn't arrest her for it. freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. if i walk up to someone and say "i think you're a fuckin bitch" should they be sympathetic or would it be understandable if they get mad and hit me? Ideally yea, it would be cool if everyone could be the bigger person, but i also understand that i had the hit coming and asked for it. Her rhetoric and that mentality is the exact reason people are rioting right now. Its people like her who sympathize with poor behavior and live to antagonize people that fed this mess. She's being shut down for it. Her fault. Fair, next. Fuck her.

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 5:13:01 PM
#225:


VipaGTS posted...
freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
You'll notice I did not cite the First Amendment. I said we need new labor laws.

Do you call yourself on the right or the left? Are you a Democrat or a Republican? I'm calling for better workers' rights and more regulations on what the private sector can get away with. When they can't protect their workers, the government steps in.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 5:16:42 PM
#226:


My political leanings dont matter. I am of the opinion that if you work for someone you represent them by extension. They have a right to decide who they would like to associate with. Do you think that her comments could cause friction with other co workers? With managers? With customers if they are a sales company? They have every right to protect that aspect of their company.

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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 5:17:34 PM
#227:


freespeechfoot posted...
You'll notice I did not cite the First Amendment. I said we need new labor laws.

Do you call yourself on the right or the left? Are you a Democrat or a Republican? I'm calling for better workers' rights and more regulations on what the private sector can get away with. When they can't protect their workers, the government steps in.

You're focusing on her losing her part time job. What about her losing her college scholarship?

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 5:18:16 PM
#228:


VipaGTS posted...
I am of the opinion that if you work for someone you represent them by extension.
well I think we tried that idea in the Gilded Age and it was a disaster, which led to similar unrest like we're seeing now.

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freespeechfoot
06/02/20 5:20:11 PM
#229:


Jiggy101011 posted...
You're focusing on her losing her part time job. What about her losing her college scholarship?
If you want to dip into our tax wallet a little more and have the public pay for her education, then you could persuade me on that too. Here's your opportunity to be a real Bernie Bro and stick up for someone who's really being oppressed by the system, not just in a virtue signalling meme way.

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VipaGTS
06/02/20 5:20:44 PM
#230:


Jiggy101011 posted...
You're focusing on her losing her part time job. What about her losing her college scholarship?
Im also ok with that. The school doesnt have to give scholarships out. They are earned and with them comes responsibilities to said school. You already have to get chosen for a school. How is this any different? If they decide she is no longer worthy of upholding the standard they see fit for that scholarship, then its better off going to someone else who will. Plenty of people who deserve them dont get them. Scholarships arent a right theyre a privilege. She got it and pissed away her privilege. Now someone more deserving will get it.

now I am for strong tuition reform but that aspect doesnt really apply here.

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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 5:21:29 PM
#231:


freespeechfoot posted...
If you want to dip into our tax wallet a little more and have the public pay for her education, then you could persuade me on that too. Here's your opportunity to be a real Bernie Bro and stick up for someone who's really being oppressed by the system, not just in a virtue signalling meme way.

I'm not a Bernie Bro. Not sure where that came from.

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BignutzisBack
06/02/20 5:21:31 PM
#232:


I always find it hilarious when someone runs their mouth on social media or gets one of their old tweets pulled up from years ago and everything subsequently falls apart

I also think it's a bullshit argument to say they didn't know the consequences, everyone by now should be painfully aware that if you say some dumb shit that can be broadcasted across the world there's consequences, and if you're a celebrity who is being ruined by one of your old tweets you're also a dumbass for being stupid enough not to scrub your old social media posts ASAP after blowing up.

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joe40001
06/02/20 5:28:50 PM
#233:


Jiggy101011 posted...
Again, you are ignoring the fact that she posted this on the internet for the world to see. If she wants to say stupid shit to her friends at a mall, or write in a journal, or if she wants to say it behind closed doors with her family, fine. But she didnt do those things, instead she CHOSE to post her thoughts on the internet for the whole world to see.

Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, you may have surrounded yourself in a little bubble with like minded individuals but don't be shocked when you realize you made it so the whole world can read your "shitty dumb words".

If I were to go on Facebook and say "its 420 somewhere bitches!" and then light a joint, I wouldnt be shocked if I get a call the next day from my job saying I've been let go.

Own up to what you post

If it's illegal to smoke weed then yeah you can get fired for admitting to doing it. It's not illegal to blindly and stupidly side with the cops in all cases.

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joe40001
06/02/20 5:30:13 PM
#234:


Doom_Art posted...
"Might as well piss everyone off. :)"

I don't know why anyone would feel bad for her. She got exactly what she seemed to want out of that tweet.

Yeah, pissing people off is not the same as willfully losing her scholarship and job.

Presumably she thinks the people she's pissing off are wrong or ignorant. And I certainly don't think most people who plan on pissing off people they think are wrong are signing up to lose their job when they do.

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Doom_Art
06/02/20 5:31:55 PM
#235:


joe40001 posted...
Yeah, pissing people off is not the same as willfully losing her scholarship and job.
Yeah well, her goal was to make people mad.

She succeeded

And she should be well aware of what people do when they get mad.

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joe40001
06/02/20 5:33:51 PM
#236:


BignutzisBack posted...
I always find it hilarious when someone runs their mouth on social media or gets one of their old tweets pulled up from years ago and everything subsequently falls apart

I also think it's a bullshit argument to say they didn't know the consequences, everyone by now should be painfully aware that if you say some dumb shit that can be broadcasted across the world there's consequences, and if you're a celebrity who is being ruined by one of your old tweets you're also a dumbass for being stupid enough not to scrub your old social media posts ASAP after blowing up.

The idea that we don't actually care what people think so long as they "scrubbed" their history shows the problem.

This isn't really about people's idea's this is about mob justice and "catching" people. If it really was about justice and not just mob punishment of those we hate then it wouldn't matter if the person said the thing privately, or if they scrubbed it.

Just be honest with yourselves, this isn't about what right, this is about how the word is shitty right now and so it feels good to watch somebody with shitty opinions suffer, not because of justice or helping the world but out of pure schadenfreude.

If you owned that it would be a lot more honest and sympathetic.

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joe40001
06/02/20 5:35:17 PM
#237:


Doom_Art posted...
Yeah well, her goal was to make people mad.

She succeeded

And she should be well aware of what people do when they get mad.

This logic does not track at all.

Just because you make somebody mad doesn't mean anything they do out of anger is justified. And certainly doesn't mean anything they do out of anger is productive.

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sktgamer_13dude
06/02/20 5:49:19 PM
#238:


freespeechfoot posted...
Way to imply some people should get their houses burned down.
Way to read between lines that were never there.

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TheGoldenEel
06/02/20 5:54:24 PM
#239:




lmfao

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Jiggy101011
06/02/20 6:10:59 PM
#241:


joe40001 posted...
Yeah, pissing people off is not the same as willfully losing her scholarship and job.

Presumably she thinks the people she's pissing off are wrong or ignorant. And I certainly don't think most people who plan on pissing off people they think are wrong are signing up to lose their job when they do.

She pissed off her boss and the person in charge of the college. She got what she wanted.

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DD Divine
06/02/20 6:21:26 PM
#242:


Someone already said but theyre absolutely right. Someone like Huckabee or
Steve Sanchez or Levin will come to her aid a raise money for her and parade around the 1st amendment not understanding that it doesnt free you from consequences.


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ViewtifulGrave
06/02/20 6:46:25 PM
#243:


freespeechfoot posted...
And it is problematic if Black Lives Matter proclaims itself to be a socialist movement,
Has this happened?

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epik_fail1
06/02/20 7:11:51 PM
#246:


Usually I agree that we should not ruin someone life for dumb ignorant views, but we are talking about the death of a human being. It's hard for me to feel bad about her. It was not just a teenager being edgy, she acted like Georges Flloyd live don't matters

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Blue_Dream87
06/02/20 7:16:00 PM
#247:


These people feel empowered by our president and conservatives in general. Society has to show we will not tolerate hatred. Businesses and (private) colleges have every right to cut ties with racists.

Hopefully she can reflect on her actions and change. If not, fuck it, let her and her shit ideology be quarantined.

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stone
06/02/20 7:16:03 PM
#248:


epik_fail1 posted...
Usually I agree that we should not ruin someone life for dumb ignorant views, but we are talking about the death of a human being. It's hard for me to feel bad about her. It was not just a teenager being edgy, she acted like Georges Flloyd live don't matters
The way she worded things, she fully knew what she was doing.. "Might as well piss off everyone" proves it.

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dj1200
06/02/20 7:18:33 PM
#249:


how many tweets result in people being fired. i'm glad i don't shoot off anything crazy on social media.

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stone
06/02/20 7:21:26 PM
#250:


dj1200 posted...
how many tweets result in people being fired. i'm glad i don't shoot off anything crazy on social media.
I guess that's one way Trump has of creating jobs, getting his biggoted followers fired and freeing up those jobs for more open minded people.

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ZannoL
06/02/20 7:29:01 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Wow, madfoot got really butthurt about the alt right bitch getting what she deserved
IKR? Imagine wasting time defending some trashy moron.

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Machete
06/02/20 7:30:23 PM
#253:


Bullet_Wing posted...
Wow, madfoot got really butthurt about the alt right bitch getting what she deserved


I think he might have gotten really suspended about her getting what she deserved...
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