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guffguy89 06/02/20 1:36:28 AM #52:	You know, I think the best sign I've seen a protester hold up so far said something like this: Not all black people are criminals. Not all white people are racists. Not all police officers are corrupt. We are stronger together. Some great stories of unity are coming out of these protests this past weekend. Take Flint, Michigan, where the chief of police put down his gear and baton and marched with the protesters down the street in unity. Take the community near where I live, where similarly the police joined the protesters, listened to their complaints, and discussed paths of understanding and moving forward. There was no looting done in those areas. There was no police brutality in those areas. No violent riots. One can hope there was a step toward healing, but time will tell. The media loves drama though, as do social media posters, so those stories take a back seat to the more violent confrontations going on in this country, where police and protesters lose their cool and lash out in violence. The videos are damning. Police are lashing out in very irresponsible and daresay criminally negligent ways, making matters worse by assaulting people who aren't even being aggressive. Yet, I guarantee you on some right-wing message board somewhere, they are sharing videos of rioters looting, beating up store owners, etc., and having a big old circle jerk on how these protesters are animals and out of control. Very similar to the way you guys are going at it with the police videos. In many of these videos, it's like each side is antagonizing the other, just waiting for them to overreact to something so they can catch it on camera. We see cops assaulting people who aren't doing anything wrong. We see protesters antagonizing and egging on cops to react in some way. What does that solve? How does that fix the problem we have in this country? All it's doing is creating a bigger divide. Nothing good can come out of that. It's easy to get caught up in all the violent confrontations, I admit I did as well. It's just so destructive to the issue at hand. It's reinforcing the stereotypes both sides have on one another. I think it's important to take a deep breathe and remember that not all cops are violent like this, not all protesters are violent like this. Some communities did this the right way, and they sure as hell have a better chance of healing than these places of conflict do. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. <cite>guffguy89 posted [p:940059182] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>You know, I think the best sign I've seen a protester hold up so far said something like this: Not all black people are criminals. Not all white people are racists. Not all police officers are corrupt. We are stronger together. Some great stories of unity are coming out of these protests this past weekend. Take Flint, Michigan, where the chief of police put down his gear and baton and marched with the protesters down the street in unity. Take the community near where I live, where similarly the police joined the protesters, listened to their complaints, and discussed paths of understanding and moving forward. There was no looting done in those areas. There was no police brutality in those areas. No violent riots. One can hope there was a step toward healing, but time will tell. The media loves drama though, as do social media posters, so those stories take a back seat to the more violent confrontations going on in this country, where police and protesters lose their cool and lash out in violence. The videos are damning. Police are lashing out in very irresponsible and daresay criminally negligent ways, making matters worse by assaulting people who aren't even being aggressive. Yet, I guarantee you on some right-wing message board somewhere, they are sharing videos of rioters looting, beating up store owners, etc., and having a big old circle jerk on how these protesters are animals and out of control. Very similar to the way you guys are going at it with the police videos. In many of these videos, it's like each side is antagonizing the other, just waiting for them to overreact to something so they can catch it on camera. We see cops assaulting people who aren't doing anything wrong. We see protesters antagonizing and egging on cops to react in some way. What does that solve? How does that fix the problem we have in this country? All it's doing is creating a bigger divide. Nothing good can come out of that. It's easy to get caught up in all the violent confrontations, I admit I did as well. It's just so destructive to the issue at hand. It's reinforcing the stereotypes both sides have on one another. I think it's important to take a deep breathe and remember that not all cops are violent like this, not all protesters are violent like this. Some communities did this the right way, and they sure as hell have a better chance of healing than these places of conflict do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 06/02/20 1:40:59 AM #53:	guffguy89 posted... You know, I think the best sign I've seen a protester hold up so far said something like this: Not all black people are criminals. Not all white people are racists. Not all police officers are corrupt. We are stronger together. Some great stories of unity are coming out of these protests this past weekend. Take Flint, Michigan, where the chief of police put down his gear and baton and marched with the protesters down the street in unity. Take the community near where I live, where similarly the police joined the protesters, listened to their complaints, and discussed paths of understanding and moving forward. There was no looting done in those areas. There was no police brutality in those areas. No violent riots. One can hope there was a step toward healing, but time will tell. The media loves drama though, as do social media posters, so those stories take a back seat to the more violent confrontations going on in this country, where police and protesters lose their cool and lash out in violence. The videos are damning. Police are lashing out in very irresponsible and daresay criminally negligent ways, making matters worse by assaulting people who aren't even being aggressive. Yet, I guarantee you on some right-wing message board somewhere, they are sharing videos of rioters looting, beating up store owners, etc., and having a big old circle jerk on how these protesters are animals and out of control. Very similar to the way you guys are going at it with the police videos. In many of these videos, it's like each side is antagonizing the other, just waiting for them to overreact to something so they can catch it on camera. We see cops assaulting people who aren't doing anything wrong. We see protesters antagonizing and egging on cops to react in some way. What does that solve? How does that fix the problem we have in this country? All it's doing is creating a bigger divide. Nothing good can come out of that. It's easy to get caught up in all the violent confrontations, I admit I did as well. It's just so destructive to the issue at hand. It's reinforcing the stereotypes both sides have on one another. I think it's important to take a deep breathe and remember that not all cops are violent like this, not all protesters are violent like this. Some communities did this the right way, and they sure as hell have a better chance of healing than these places of conflict do. Its the cops job and responsibility to always do it the right way --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:940059315] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>guffguy89 posted...</cite> <quote>You know, I think the best sign I've seen a protester hold up so far said something like this: Not all black people are criminals. Not all white people are racists. Not all police officers are corrupt. We are stronger together. Some great stories of unity are coming out of these protests this past weekend. Take Flint, Michigan, where the chief of police put down his gear and baton and marched with the protesters down the street in unity. Take the community near where I live, where similarly the police joined the protesters, listened to their complaints, and discussed paths of understanding and moving forward. There was no looting done in those areas. There was no police brutality in those areas. No violent riots. One can hope there was a step toward healing, but time will tell. The media loves drama though, as do social media posters, so those stories take a back seat to the more violent confrontations going on in this country, where police and protesters lose their cool and lash out in violence. The videos are damning. Police are lashing out in very irresponsible and daresay criminally negligent ways, making matters worse by assaulting people who aren't even being aggressive. Yet, I guarantee you on some right-wing message board somewhere, they are sharing videos of rioters looting, beating up store owners, etc., and having a big old circle jerk on how these protesters are animals and out of control. Very similar to the way you guys are going at it with the police videos. In many of these videos, it's like each side is antagonizing the other, just waiting for them to overreact to something so they can catch it on camera. We see cops assaulting people who aren't doing anything wrong. We see protesters antagonizing and egging on cops to react in some way. What does that solve? How does that fix the problem we have in this country? All it's doing is creating a bigger divide. Nothing good can come out of that. It's easy to get caught up in all the violent confrontations, I admit I did as well. It's just so destructive to the issue at hand. It's reinforcing the stereotypes both sides have on one another. I think it's important to take a deep breathe and remember that not all cops are violent like this, not all protesters are violent like this. Some communities did this the right way, and they sure as hell have a better chance of healing than these places of conflict do. </quote> Its the cops job and responsibility to always do it the right way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 1:42:46 AM #54:	Almost every single case over the last week of a "peaceful" police photoop was revealed to be a publicity stunt in which they immediately began assaulting protestors that same evening. But yeah. "Not All Cops" <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059367] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote> Almost every single case over the last week of a "peaceful" police photoop was revealed to be a publicity stunt in which they immediately began assaulting protestors that same evening. But yeah. "Not All Cops" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 06/02/20 1:43:15 AM #55:	imagine equating police to rioters and still not realizing the problem --- https://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:940059382] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>imagine equating police to rioters and still not realizing the problem </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 06/02/20 1:43:23 AM #56:	yeah i don't get the goal of all the people complaining about how the protestors are behaving does this mean they disagree with the spirit of the protest? or what do they want exactly --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:940059387] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>yeah i don't get the goal of all the people complaining about how the protestors are behaving does this mean they disagree with the spirit of the protest? or what do they want exactly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:44:12 AM #57:	StealThisSheen posted... Cop drawing gun after somebody tried to kill somebody with a brick is fair. But you know what isn't? The other hundreds of unprovoked actions by police. I don't think I've seen a single situation that was truly "unprovoked". Some of the responses are definitely too much, but when people are burning buildings and throwing shit at the police, it's only fair to respond with tear gas and rubber bullets. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059412] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Cop drawing gun after somebody tried to kill somebody with a brick is fair. But you know what isn't? The other hundreds of unprovoked actions by police.</quote>I don't think I've seen a single situation that was truly "unprovoked". Some of the responses are definitely too much, but when people are burning buildings and throwing shit at the police, it's only fair to respond with tear gas and rubber bullets. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:45:56 AM #58:	banananor posted... yeah i don't get the goal of all the people complaining about how the protestors are behaving does this mean they disagree with the spirit of the protest? or what do they want exactly It's possible to agree with the spirit of the protest while not condoning the looting and needless violence...... Peaceful protests and civil disobedience work, just ask MLK. Breaking the front window of a Target and stealing a TV doesn't serve any positive purpose whatsoever --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059457] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>banananor posted... </cite> <quote>yeah i don't get the goal of all the people complaining about how the protestors are behaving does this mean they disagree with the spirit of the protest? or what do they want exactly</quote>It's possible to agree with the spirit of the protest while not condoning the looting and needless violence...... Peaceful protests and civil disobedience work, just ask MLK. Breaking the front window of a Target and stealing a TV doesn't serve any positive purpose whatsoever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 1:46:00 AM #59:	I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad. Like I saw a soccer player score a goal and then take off his shirt with the shirt underneath saying "Justice for George Floyd". Made me want to puke. --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059461] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad. Like I saw a soccer player score a goal and then take off his shirt with the shirt underneath saying "Justice for George Floyd". Made me want to puke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 06/02/20 1:49:33 AM #60:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I don't think I've seen a single situation that was truly "unprovoked". Then you clearly haven't looked very hard, since there have been dozens of videos even of just cops attacking reporters for literally no reason. Hell, there's one where a reporter was on the ground and holding his press badge above his head and a cop walked over and sprayed him in the face with pepper spray anyway despite there being no danger whatsoever. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:940059541] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think I've seen a single situation that was truly "unprovoked".</quote> Then you clearly haven't looked very hard, since there have been dozens of videos even of just cops attacking reporters for literally no reason. Hell, there's one where a reporter was on the ground and holding his press badge above his head and a cop walked over and sprayed him in the face with pepper spray anyway despite there being no danger whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 06/02/20 1:49:38 AM #61:	Athletes only post that until their neighborhood is getting looted. Then they have an interesting 180. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:940059544] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Athletes only post that until their neighborhood is getting looted. Then they have an interesting 180. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 06/02/20 1:50:56 AM #62:	SuperNiceDog posted... I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad. you should seek some professional help for that --- https://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:940059576] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>SuperNiceDog posted... </cite> <quote>I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad.</quote>you should seek some professional help for that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 1:51:22 AM #63:	Holy shit I didn't think anybody here was dumb enough to trot out their completely ignorant middle school MLK knowledge, but here we are. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059592] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit I didn't think anybody here was dumb enough to trot out their completely ignorant middle school MLK knowledge, but here we are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:51:24 AM #64:	StealThisSheen posted... Then you clearly haven't looked very hard, since there have been dozens of videos even of just cops attacking reporters for literally no reason. Hell, there's one where a reporter was on the ground and holding his press badge above his head and a cop walked over and sprayed him in the face with pepper spray anyway despite there being no danger whatsoever. If you're hanging out during an active riot, shit is going to happen. Pepper spray and tear gas do not do any permanent damage, so no harm no foul. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they say --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059593] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>Then you clearly haven't looked very hard, since there have been dozens of videos even of just cops attacking reporters for literally no reason. Hell, there's one where a reporter was on the ground and holding his press badge above his head and a cop walked over and sprayed him in the face with pepper spray anyway despite there being no danger whatsoever.</quote>If you're hanging out during an active riot, shit is going to happen. Pepper spray and tear gas do not do any permanent damage, so no harm no foul. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 06/02/20 1:51:43 AM #65:	SuperNiceDog posted... I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad. Like I saw a soccer player score a goal and then take off his shirt with the shirt underneath saying "Justice for George Floyd". Made me want to puke. it really sucks that people standing up for something makes you mad and/or nauseous --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:940059602] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>SuperNiceDog posted...</cite> <quote>I think these protests will make race relations even worse. When I see these athletes posting SJW crap on social media, basically using the tragedy to try to gain brownie points and clout... I get really mad. Like I saw a soccer player score a goal and then take off his shirt with the shirt underneath saying "Justice for George Floyd". Made me want to puke. </quote> it really sucks that people standing up for something makes you mad and/or nauseous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:53:23 AM #66:	Kinglicious posted... Athletes only post that until their neighborhood is getting looted. Then they have an interesting 180. This is true of basically everyone "chiming in". As long as the victim is some unknown small business owner, or a faceless corporation, or the minimum wage employees of that faceless corporation, people don't give a shit about the long term damage they are doing. And the part in all of this that's being completely forgotten is that there's an active pandemic happening at the moment. These rioters are going to directly cause the next big spike in Covid-19 cases. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059648] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Kinglicious posted... </cite> <quote>Athletes only post that until their neighborhood is getting looted. Then they have an interesting 180.</quote>This is true of basically everyone "chiming in". As long as the victim is some unknown small business owner, or a faceless corporation, or the minimum wage employees of that faceless corporation, people don't give a shit about the long term damage they are doing. And the part in all of this that's being completely forgotten is that there's an active pandemic happening at the moment. These rioters are going to directly cause the next big spike in Covid-19 cases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:54:28 AM #67:	MoogleKupo141 posted... it really sucks that people standing up for something makes you mad and/or nauseous They aren't though It's pointless virtue signalling. There was a famous black person on Twitter who went from cheering on the crowds to condemning them because they were trying to destroy his neighbourhood, all in the span of a few hours. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059677] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>it really sucks that people standing up for something makes you mad and/or nauseous</quote>They aren't though It's pointless virtue signalling. There was a famous black person on Twitter who went from cheering on the crowds to condemning them because they were trying to destroy his neighbourhood, all in the span of a few hours. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 1:54:29 AM #68:	Grimlyn posted... you should seek some professional help for that Maybe? It probably comes across as racist but... I think the way celebrities are trying to lecture people on how to think and act is wrong. Why was this issue basically forgotten about on May 24, the day before George Floyd's death? Where was the awareness/activism on this issue before Floyd died? Between 2017- May 24 2020 there was little to no discussion on the topic. --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059679] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Grimlyn posted... </cite> <quote>you should seek some professional help for that</quote> Maybe? It probably comes across as racist but... I think the way celebrities are trying to lecture people on how to think and act is wrong. Why was this issue basically forgotten about on May 24, the day before George Floyd's death? Where was the awareness/activism on this issue before Floyd died? Between 2017- May 24 2020 there was little to no discussion on the topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 06/02/20 1:55:30 AM #69:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... If you're hanging out during an active riot, shit is going to happen. Pepper spray and tear gas do not do any permanent damage, so no harm no foul. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they say Except there was no rioting at the gas station it happened at. Police just walked up and assaulted the property owners and reporters that were there. https://twitter.com/rsdaza/status/1267200011659554824 If you defend this, you're trash. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:940059702] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>If you're hanging out during an active riot, shit is going to happen. Pepper spray and tear gas do not do any permanent damage, so no harm no foul. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes as they say</quote> Except there was no rioting at the gas station it happened at. Police just walked up and assaulted the property owners and reporters that were there. https://twitter.com/rsdaza/status/1267200011659554824 If you defend this, you're trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 1:55:42 AM #70:	Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059709] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 06/02/20 1:56:25 AM #71:	SuperNiceDog posted... Between 2017- May 24 2020 there was little to no discussion on the topic. ....What --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:940059724] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>SuperNiceDog posted... </cite> <quote>Between 2017- May 24 2020 there was little to no discussion on the topic.</quote> ....What </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 1:56:52 AM #72:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time. Me and BT lighting up this thread --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059732] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time.</quote> Me and BT lighting up this thread </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 06/02/20 1:56:54 AM #73:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time. They saw us peacefully protesting and couldn't have that --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:940059733] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time.</quote> They saw us peacefully protesting and couldn't have that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 1:57:20 AM #74:	The absolute worst part of this, is that the root issue (over militarized, under regulated cops with a godlike corrupt union backing them up) is being lost behind the racism argument. If these protesters had a clear aim, such as scrapping police unions, or putting in sane gun regulations like the entire rest of the world has, I would be more on board with it. As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059741] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>The absolute worst part of this, is that the root issue (over militarized, under regulated cops with a godlike corrupt union backing them up) is being lost behind the racism argument. If these protesters had a clear aim, such as scrapping police unions, or putting in sane gun regulations like the entire rest of the world has, I would be more on board with it. As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 06/02/20 1:59:17 AM #75:	You couldn't really increase racial tensions from where they are today, not in today's world. That argument is bogus. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:940059777] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>You couldn't really increase racial tensions from where they are today, not in today's world. That argument is bogus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 1:59:59 AM #76:	StealThisSheen posted... ....What I meant exactly what I said. Eric Garner/Treyvon Martin/Baltimore was from like 2014-late 2016. By late 2016 the activists forgot about Black Lives Matter and had moved on to Trump bashing. In the 3 year period, from Jan 2017-May 24 2020, they were not discussing the issue of police brutality against black men much any more. --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059794] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>....What</quote> I meant exactly what I said. Eric Garner/Treyvon Martin/Baltimore was from like 2014-late 2016. By late 2016 the activists forgot about Black Lives Matter and had moved on to Trump bashing. In the 3 year period, from Jan 2017-May 24 2020, they were not discussing the issue of police brutality against black men much any more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 2:01:02 AM #77:	StealThisSheen posted... They saw us peacefully protesting and couldn't have that The officer who pepper sprayed themselves and their team is very remeniscent of BTs contest bracket this year, lines up. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059812] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>They saw us peacefully protesting and couldn't have that</quote> The officer who pepper sprayed themselves and their team is very remeniscent of BTs contest bracket this year, lines up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 06/02/20 2:01:04 AM #78:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... They aren't though It's pointless virtue signalling. There was a famous black person on Twitter who went from cheering on the crowds to condemning them because they were trying to destroy his neighbourhood, all in the span of a few hours. wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:940059813] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted...</cite> <quote> They aren't though It's pointless virtue signalling. There was a famous black person on Twitter who went from cheering on the crowds to condemning them because they were trying to destroy his neighbourhood, all in the span of a few hours. </quote> wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 2:02:38 AM #79:	MoogleKupo141 posted... wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name. Was it JR Smith(former NBA basketball player)? He beat up a looter who broke the window of his car lol --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059847] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name.</quote> Was it JR Smith(former NBA basketball player)? He beat up a looter who broke the window of his car lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 2:03:35 AM #80:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions. It can't get higher than it is. That's the whole problem. The cops murdered another innocent black man yesterday morning, and we're still waiting to hear whether they terminated a pregnancy by shooting a pregnant woman in the stomach. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059866] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions.</quote> It can't get higher than it is. That's the whole problem. The cops murdered another innocent black man yesterday morning, and we're still waiting to hear whether they terminated a pregnancy by shooting a pregnant woman in the stomach. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 2:04:22 AM #81:	red13n posted... You couldn't really increase racial tensions from where they are today, not in today's world. That argument is bogus. There are a lot of people who have no problem with minorities who's lives have been/are being affected by the riots. There are also a lot of people looking at the crazy footage coming out of the riots and scared that this shit could happen in their neighbourhoods too. Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059884] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite> <quote>You couldn't really increase racial tensions from where they are today, not in today's world. That argument is bogus.</quote>There are a lot of people who have no problem with minorities who's lives have been/are being affected by the riots. There are also a lot of people looking at the crazy footage coming out of the riots and scared that this shit could happen in their neighbourhoods too. Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 06/02/20 2:04:36 AM #82:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Peaceful protests and civil disobedience work, just ask MLK. 1) You'll recall that MLK was murdered. 2) If you were alive in MLK's time, 100% chance you'd be calling his protests "violent riots that only increase racial tensions". --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:940059888] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Peaceful protests and civil disobedience work, just ask MLK.</quote>1) You'll recall that MLK was murdered. 2) If you were alive in MLK's time, 100% chance you'd be calling his protests "violent riots that only increase racial tensions". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 2:05:44 AM #83:	MoogleKupo141 posted... wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name. https://preview.redd.it/zid292b6d5251.png?auto=webp&s=ca29db486127e43e8f62417810096dee73a04b66 He is a basketball player apparantly, I didn't know his name and had to look it up because lol nba --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059922] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>wow people are hypocrites you figured it out who is the famous black person? I dont know why you didnt just say their name.</quote> https://preview.redd.it/zid292b6d5251.png?auto=webp&s=ca29db486127e43e8f62417810096dee73a04b66 He is a basketball player apparantly, I didn't know his name and had to look it up because lol nba </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 2:06:03 AM #84:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... There are a lot of people who have no problem with minorities who's lives have been/are being affected by the riots. There are also a lot of people looking at the crazy footage coming out of the riots and scared that this shit could happen in their neighbourhoods too. Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened Yea I agree with BT, I think these lootings/general chaos is going to make race relations worse and increase racism. On where I disagree with BT, "having a dialog" ain't gonna do anything. Racism is not that easy to exterminate. I'm honestly not sure if it can ever be removed from society. --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940059931] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>There are a lot of people who have no problem with minorities who's lives have been/are being affected by the riots. There are also a lot of people looking at the crazy footage coming out of the riots and scared that this shit could happen in their neighbourhoods too. Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened</quote> Yea I agree with BT, I think these lootings/general chaos is going to make race relations worse and increase racism. On where I disagree with BT, "having a dialog" ain't gonna do anything. Racism is not that easy to exterminate. I'm honestly not sure if it can ever be removed from society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 06/02/20 2:06:52 AM #85:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened go up to where? they pretty much hit critical mass. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:940059947] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>Racial tensions are only going to go up until cooler heads prevail and an actual dialog is opened</quote> go up to where? they pretty much hit critical mass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 2:07:35 AM #86:	MLK was also not against violent protest when called for, and was very blatant that he felt the most dangerous enemy to their cause were the moderates who acted like they weren't their enemy. But that's not what they like to teach kids in school, so people who don't actually give a shit or don't want to know still tout MLK as the bastion of peaceful protest. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940059965] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>MLK was also not against violent protest when called for, and was very blatant that he felt the most dangerous enemy to their cause were the moderates who acted like they weren't their enemy. But that's not what they like to teach kids in school, so people who don't actually give a shit or don't want to know still tout MLK as the bastion of peaceful protest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 2:07:44 AM #87:	UshiromiyaEva posted... It can't get higher than it is. That's the whole problem. The cops murdered another innocent black man yesterday morning, and we're still waiting to hear whether they terminated a pregnancy by shooting a pregnant woman in the stomach. You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940059971] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>It can't get higher than it is. That's the whole problem. The cops murdered another innocent black man yesterday morning, and we're still waiting to hear whether they terminated a pregnancy by shooting a pregnant woman in the stomach.</quote>You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 06/02/20 2:08:56 AM #88:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee already happened, next. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:940059995] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee</quote> already happened, next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 06/02/20 2:09:15 AM #89:	SuperNiceDog posted... Was it JR Smith(former NBA basketball player)? He beat up a looter who broke the window of his car lol from a little glancing at his Twitter, it looks like hes actually consistent in endorsing the protests but criticizing the destruction. Three days ago he retweeted We need to tear down the system of oppression not destroy our community --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:940060006] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>SuperNiceDog posted...</cite> <quote> Was it JR Smith(former NBA basketball player)? He beat up a looter who broke the window of his car lol </quote> from a little glancing at his Twitter, it looks like hes actually consistent in endorsing the protests but criticizing the destruction. Three days ago he retweeted We need to tear down the system of oppression not destroy our community</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 2:09:36 AM #90:	UshiromiyaEva posted... MLK was also not against violent protest when called for, and was very blatant that he felt the most dangerous enemy to their cause were the moderates who acted like they weren't their enemy. But that's not what they like to teach kids in school, so people who don't actually give a shit or don't want to know still tout MLK as the bastion of peaceful protest. I'd like some sources on that. For my source, I submit this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Jobs_and_Freedom --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940060013] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>MLK was also not against violent protest when called for, and was very blatant that he felt the most dangerous enemy to their cause were the moderates who acted like they weren't their enemy. But that's not what they like to teach kids in school, so people who don't actually give a shit or don't want to know still tout MLK as the bastion of peaceful protest.</quote>I'd like some sources on that. For my source, I submit this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Jobs_and_Freedom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 2:09:38 AM #91:	Has anyone seen someone who posted support for the police or was anti-protest on social media? Did they just get destroyed on social media? --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940060015] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Has anyone seen someone who posted support for the police or was anti-protest on social media? Did they just get destroyed on social media? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 06/02/20 2:09:42 AM #92:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee MFer those people are already on the police force. <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:940060019] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>You must have missed the fact that racist and dumb rednecks have already shown they have no problem going into government buildings with assault rifles. Only a matter of time before that group goes into the streets and joins the melee</quote> MFer those people are already on the police force. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red13n 06/02/20 2:10:29 AM #93:	SuperNiceDog posted... Has anyone seen someone who posted support for the police or was anti-protest on social media? Did they just get destroyed on social media? they get propped up by Russian bots. --- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. <cite>red13n posted [p:940060039] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>SuperNiceDog posted... </cite> <quote>Has anyone seen someone who posted support for the police or was anti-protest on social media? Did they just get destroyed on social media?</quote> they get propped up by Russian bots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 2:10:51 AM #94:	MoogleKupo141 posted... from a little glancing at his Twitter, it looks like hes actually consistent in endorsing the protests but criticizing the destruction. Three days ago he retweeted We need to tear down the system of oppression not destroy our community That's good. JR Smith was a decent player but now he's most well known for screwing up in Game 1 of the 2018 NBA finals --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940060050] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>from a little glancing at his Twitter, it looks like hes actually consistent in endorsing the protests but criticizing the destruction. Three days ago he retweeted We need to tear down the system of oppression not destroy our community</quote> That's good. JR Smith was a decent player but now he's most well known for screwing up in Game 1 of the 2018 NBA finals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/02/20 2:11:21 AM #95:	Ah, I see, you're one of those ACAB fools. If all cops just up and vanished tomorrow, I give it 5 days before society crumbles and anarchy reigns supreme. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:940060063] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>Ah, I see, you're one of those ACAB fools. If all cops just up and vanished tomorrow, I give it 5 days before society crumbles and anarchy reigns supreme. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 06/02/20 2:11:46 AM #96:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... https://preview.redd.it/zid292b6d5251.png?auto=webp&s=ca29db486127e43e8f62417810096dee73a04b66 He is a basketball player apparantly, I didn't know his name and had to look it up because lol nba did you just assume hes black because hes in the nba? That guy looks pretty white to me. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:940060074] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted...</cite> <quote> https://preview.redd.it/zid292b6d5251.png?auto=webp&s=ca29db486127e43e8f62417810096dee73a04b66 He is a basketball player apparantly, I didn't know his name and had to look it up because lol nba </quote> did you just assume hes black because hes in the nba? That guy looks pretty white to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 06/02/20 2:16:13 AM #97:	Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. ... But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. since we're quotin' MLK in here, here's an evergreen that speaks to exactly why we're still here in 2020 but hey if you just wanna quote MLK to silence black voices in their struggle then here's another one for ya: First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured. even got BT pegged on his tension shit, amazing how well the King's words hold for over half a century --- https://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:940060176] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote><quote>Let me say as I've always said, and I will always continue to say, that riots are socially destructive and self-defeating. ... But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again.</quote> since we're quotin' MLK in here, here's an evergreen that speaks to exactly why we're still here in 2020 but hey if you just wanna quote MLK to silence black voices in their struggle then here's another one for ya: <quote>First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.</quote> even got BT pegged on his tension shit, amazing how well the King's words hold for over half a century </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 06/02/20 2:32:11 AM #99:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... If these protesters had a clear aim, such as scrapping police unions, or putting in sane gun regulations like the entire rest of the world has, I would be more on board with it. As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions. I dunno, "stop killing innocent black people" sounds like a pretty understandable request to me. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:940060521] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>If these protesters had a clear aim, such as scrapping police unions, or putting in sane gun regulations like the entire rest of the world has, I would be more on board with it. As it stands, I'm still not quite sure what their goal is, since their actions are only going to increase racial tensions.</quote>I dunno, "stop killing innocent black people" sounds like a pretty understandable request to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperNiceDog 06/02/20 2:46:15 AM #100:	BT is right, the protestors are not organized and do not have a legitimate plan to solve racism in the USA. Because there is no solution, the protestors are in the wrong. Their plan is to "raise awareness" but no one knows how or if that can be measured. --- Azuarc is the 2020 Guru GOTD 2 Contest Champion! <cite>SuperNiceDog posted [p:940060819] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>BT is right, the protestors are not organized and do not have a legitimate plan to solve racism in the USA. Because there is no solution, the protestors are in the wrong. Their plan is to "raise awareness" but no one knows how or if that can be measured. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 06/02/20 2:48:37 AM #101:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:940060863] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Why did these people start posting here at literally the same time.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarkS222222222222222 06/02/20 2:55:13 AM #102:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Almost every single case over the last week of a "peaceful" police photoop was revealed to be a publicity stunt in which they immediately began assaulting protestors that same evening. But yeah. "Not All Cops" Source? --- This is quite a username I have here. <cite>MarkS222222222222222 posted [p:940060998] in Politics C... [t:78738644]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite> <quote>Almost every single case over the last week of a "peaceful" police photoop was revealed to be a publicity stunt in which they immediately began assaulting protestors that same evening. But yeah. "Not All Cops"</quote>Source? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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