Current Events > "Dark Souls needs an easy mode!!!"

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Every invasion i've done tonight is the host with 2-3 phantoms

Ganking every invader and boss

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More options can only improve a game.

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I dont understand the relation between the title and the content

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It needs a hard mode because it's too easy

dark souls has an easy mode: magic

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MarthGoomba posted...

It needs a hard mode because it's too easy

you lied in the other thread by claiming you did a no-death run first try. as much as i like Dark Souls, everybody's going to trip up on vague design decisions or the implementation of new mechanics. you are a liar

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Invaders in Dark Souls 3 have it hard.

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I still don't understand how people find the Souls series difficult.

I couldn't stand the mechanics at first, but once you get the hang of the timing, it's fairly rote.
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It does have easy mode. Its the parry button

Garioshi posted...

More options can only improve a game.

There's no difficulty options.

HighOnSolar posted...

I dont understand the relation between the title and the content

Running through the game with 2-3 phantoms is already an easy mode

neverwin posted...

Invaders in Dark Souls 3 have it hard.

I honestly don't mind the people who summon phantoms. If you need help you need help. I just hate when people complain about the difficulty when theres already options to make the game a cakewalk

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neverwin posted...

Invaders in Dark Souls 3 have it hard.

as they should? they're invading, it should be hard.

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This is like going to college for a PhD and asking to complete 3rd grade math for a year instead to get the same doctorate

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Zero_Destroyer posted...

you lied in the other thread by claiming you did a no-death run first try. as much as i like Dark Souls, everybody's going to trip up on vague design decisions or the implementation of new mechanics. you are a liar

The AI in DS1 is a joke. It really isn't hard to not die to them

MarthGoomba posted...

The AI in DS1 is a joke. It really isn't hard to not die to them

Yeah I call BS too, sorry. There's zero chance that you didn't die one single time start to finish. You just happened to learn the patterns and beat every single boss the first time? Okay.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

This is like going to college for a PhD and asking to complete 3rd grade math for a year instead to get the same doctorate

Yes, because "beat Dark Souls" is the shining spot of any resume.

MabusIncarnate posted...

You just happened to learn the patterns and beat every single boss the first time? Okay.

Homeward bones make it easy to get out and go back better prepared

@OudeGeuze

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yes, because "beat Dark Souls" is the shining spot of any resume.

I got a 7 figure job when that was in the header. The guy interviewing me got an instant boner, slammed my resume on the desk and yelled HIRED!! as he pumped his fists into the air.

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MabusIncarnate posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Yes, because "beat Dark Souls" is the shining spot of any resume.

I got a 7 figure job when that was in the header. The guy interviewing me got an instant boner, slammed my resume on the desk and yelled HIRED!! as he pumped his fists into the air.

Amateur hour. I once walked into the room, praised the sun, and the interviewer gave me his job.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Amateur hour. I once walked into the room, praised the sun, and the interviewer gave me his job.

That's next level, praise the mudcrab

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MarthGoomba posted...

Homeward bones make it easy to get out and go back better prepared

Did you play through blind or did you follow a walkthrough the whole time. Yeah theres no way you made it through no deaths in your first try. Not one single person did unless they followed a walkthrough and played with help.

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Rikiaz posted...

Did you play through blind or did you follow a walkthrough the whole time. Yeah theres no way you made it through no deaths in your first try. Not one single person did unless they followed a walkthrough and played with help.

Blind

Don't see why I would need a walkthrough to know how to hold L to stay invincible behind a tower shield

MarthGoomba posted...

Blind

Don't see why I would need a walkthrough to know how to hold L to stay invincible behind a tower shield

And you didnt die a single time before you got a tower shield or the stats to use it? (Tower shields and heavy armor really are easy mode though)

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Easy mode is playing offline.

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I never found Dark Souls easy. But bosses can be extremely easy if you summon people.

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Gen5_AppleJack posted...

Easy mode is playing offline.

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Please stop giving attention to Marth
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The game is already easy mode.
If they want something like god-mode invincibility then whatever, i dont see a problem with that being an option. But dark souls is too easy so really they should be asking for a baby mode

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If there was an easy mode I may actually play it.

I dont have time or interest for HARD FOR THE SAKE OF BEING HARD YOU SPEND HUNDREDS OF HOURS RE-DOING THINGS
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EffectAndCause posted...

If there was an easy mode I may actually play it.

I dont have time or interest for HARD FOR THE SAKE OF BEING HARD YOU SPEND HUNDREDS OF HOURS RE-DOING THINGS

It's not really that at all.

It's a game with a learning curve. Most of the difficulty is learning how to deal with new threats. Once you have the right rhythm what seemed hard before is now something you breeze past.

An easy mode exists. It's using a guide or summoning help. Knowledge is the biggest difficulty in Dark Souls.

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Darmik posted...

It's not really that at all.

It's a game with a learning curve. Most of the difficulty is learning how to deal with new threats. Once you have the right rhythm what seemed hard before is now something you breeze past.

An easy mode exists. It's using a guide or summoning help. Knowledge is the biggest difficulty in Dark Souls.

This entirely. It's like playing an RTS for the first time. Sure you feel lost and you feel like you can't win, but it's learn, adapt, be patient, and understand what you are doing. When you get there, you'll find that you aren't breezing through the game, but you are advancing at a pretty fast pace. If you die, it's on you, because it's just precision and patience. It's not unfairly, stupidly difficult that you feel helpless. You know why you die and learn from it.

I was 100% where you were Effect and I took the plunge anyway and i'm so glad I did. I genuinely hate stupidly difficult games, and Dark Souls isn't that. You just can't get by spamming the attack button.

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marth shitting a dark souls thread up, color me surprised

They really shouldn't have one. They should continue to balance it around an experience where it teaches you how to play as you go and gradually gives you more challenges. And besides, summoning help is easy mode. You can literally just sit back and drink from your flask while the other guy does everything if you're that desperate to not play the game.

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ProfessorKukui posted...

dark souls 2 is the best souls

Objectively false. There's a reason they call DkS2 the "B-team" souls.

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DS2 has the objectively best PvP

OudeGeuze posted...

marth shitting a dark souls thread up, color me surprised

do you think he just searches for the word souls every day or so?

The opposition towards player choice from Souls fans is pretty insane

I imagine if Dark Souls was originally made without subtitle options they would protest that too
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I4NRulez posted...

Every invasion i've done tonight is the host with 2-3 phantoms

Ganking every invader and boss

Good thing an easy mode that solves your issue exists.

It's called "Offline Mode"
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These games can be as hard or as easy as you like, dont level up anything and its harder, wear calamity ring, over burden, over level, summon, get muled

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Garioshi posted...

More options can only improve a game.

Disagree. The difficulty plays a role in providing a certain type of experience. Dark Souls with an easier setting wouldnt be Dark Souls.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Good thing an easy mode that solves your issue exists.

It's called "Offline Mode"

Why would i play offline if im invading people genius

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playing dark souls with phantoms is def easy mode. I can't tell you how many times a phantom practically took down a boss for me.

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It seems silly to me for people to go "No! Souls is meant to be played as is and if you can't take it, then fuck off!". Difficulty modes have existed forever in games to allow people to experience a game in a way that's suitable for them. Including an "easy mode" wouldn't affect the normal mode in any way, so why not give people the option?

Realistically, all they'd have to do for an easy mode is reduce damage enemies deal, increase damage you do, and block all PvP elements. Maybe allow you to keep all or some of a portion of your souls when you die. Same basic game, but less punishing and frustrating. I don't see a problem.

Thing is, I really love the "Soulsborne" games, but the older I'm getting, the less patience I'm starting to have with them. I want to keep playing them, but I'm really starting to have trouble with them now. I wouldn't mind having an "easy" option like I described above, just so I can play it and still get a taste of the experience.

OudeGeuze posted...

marth shitting a dark souls thread up, color me surprised

Why is it my fault that people feel the need to attack me just for posting an opinion

You start an argument and then cry when I respond to it

MarthGoomba posted...

Why is it my fault that people feel the need to attack me just for posting an opinion

Because you keep lying and proably never even played the game.

Tell us an amusing anecdote that happened to you in the game when you played it
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MRW1215 posted...

It seems silly to me for people to go "No! Souls is meant to be played as is and if you can't take it, then fuck off!". Difficulty modes have existed forever in games to allow people to experience a game in a way that's suitable for them. Including an "easy mode" wouldn't affect the normal mode in any way, so why not give people the option?

Realistically, all they'd have to do for an easy mode is reduce damage enemies deal, increase damage you do, and block all PvP elements. Maybe allow you to keep all or some of a portion of your souls when you die. Same basic game, but less punishing and frustrating. I don't see a problem.

Thing is, I really love the "Soulsborne" games, but the older I'm getting, the less patience I'm starting to have with them. I want to keep playing them, but I'm really starting to have trouble with them now. I wouldn't mind having an "easy" option like I described above, just so I can play it and still get a taste of the experience.

The developers (most likely the director specifically) dont want an easier difficulty associated with their game. Like it or not, its an artistic choice. They want the easiest setting to be what we got.

But anyway, as others have said, its more about patience and learning than about difficulty. Thats why DS2 is so disparaged by the community - its cheap difficulty like spamming enemies. An area isnt hard enough? Just put more rats.

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Cheese_Crackers posted...

The developers (most likely the director specifically) dont want an easier difficulty associated with their game. Like it or not, its an artistic choice. They want the easiest setting to be what we got.

That doesn't answer his question of why tho

"Developers said so!" is an excuse rather than a justification.

Plenty of people use mods to make the game more fun or easier and no one cares. The experience isn't hurt for you.

It's really just egotism.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

That doesn't answer his question of why tho

"Developers said so!" is an excuse rather than a justification.

Plenty of people use mods to make the game more fun or easier and no one cares. The experience isn't hurt for you.

It's really just egotism.

I added more detail before you replied. Bottom line is that a difficult game provides a meaningful goal for players to reach.

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