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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 2:32:04 AM
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She said it's because she "doesn't care about poor white people problems."

Basically she said that media has always showed and represented white perspectives of things so she chooses to listen to things that empower people who aren't usually empowered. Like Beyonce because she empowers black women.

She said she acknowledges that the music is good but it makes her feel nothing because of the perspective being represented.

I'm just like what!? Why would you limit your music options based on that? Does every artist you listen to have to fit a certain narrative that you've lived in order to be enjoyable?

Art is supposed to give you a lense into someone else's world so that we all understand each other, right?

Idk, whatever. Just figured I'd rant here about it because she refused to listen to any of my points.

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pauIie
05/14/20 2:33:09 AM
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Blue_School
05/14/20 2:33:58 AM
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Sounds like an emotionally intelligent person. Nice catch OP.
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Reis
05/14/20 2:34:03 AM
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pauIie posted...
uh huh

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Smashingpmkns
05/14/20 2:34:23 AM
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Same tbh
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MabusIncarnate
05/14/20 2:34:54 AM
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Hate to be this way, but it sounds like she's completely racist. Ask her how she would feel if you told her you "don't care about poor black people problems" and see what her response would be.

It goes both ways, i'd take that as a massive red flag. That's some hate filled perspective on her end.

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Kastrada
05/14/20 2:34:56 AM
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Your response: Okay but everyone in Modest Mouse is black. Or at least half-black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

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mooreandrew58
05/14/20 2:34:58 AM
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I do prefer music I can relate to. Doesnt stop me from liking songs I dont relate to just makes it harder for me to like the song.

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SSJGrimReaper
05/14/20 2:38:12 AM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
she refused to listen to any of my points.

rekt

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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 2:38:22 AM
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pauIie posted...
uh huh
What does this even mean?

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viewmaster_pi
05/14/20 2:41:36 AM
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it's really because of the singer's lisp

there's a ithe cream party at my houthe

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Autocraticus
05/14/20 2:43:21 AM
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Modest mouse is still around? I haven't really enjoyed them since Lonesome Crowded West. Some tracks on Good News... were alright. But their album after that with Dashboard was just so meh I dropped out there.
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Omasitor Hain
05/14/20 2:48:11 AM
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If any semblance of a color appears infront of "people"/"person" with a negative comment... that shit probably racist. With no humor? Definitely racist.
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joe40001
05/14/20 2:49:05 AM
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Eh, she's honest about it, that's good.

If I'm honest there are loads of people in the world I can't relate to so I don't care much about their shit either.

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coh
05/14/20 2:54:38 AM
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modest mouse isn't even good who cares
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PowerMang
05/14/20 3:03:04 AM
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Time to break up with her, clearly... /s

The song Dramamine is pretty much about a couple getting into an argument while on the road, and no longer talking to each other.

Is that really just a poor white thing? We've all been there, right? <_<

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R1masher
05/14/20 3:06:36 AM
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You should rip on her in your next set

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Statical_Ork
05/14/20 3:10:04 AM
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MARKINGRAM22
05/14/20 3:18:20 AM
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Yes, listen to drakes problems they are more real. Growing up in the rough streets like him Kanye and Chance the rapper.
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Lost_All_Senses
05/14/20 3:25:00 AM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
she refused to listen to any of my points.

Just as you refused to accept her perspective. She don't want your cornball white boy music.

I personally like Modest Mouse tho.

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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 3:54:27 AM
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Statical_Ork posted...
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Autocraticus posted...
Modest mouse is still around? I haven't really enjoyed them since Lonesome Crowded West. Some tracks on Good News... were alright. But their album after that with Dashboard was just so meh I dropped out there.
They're my favorite band. They have lots of early unreleased stuff and EPs that I still listen to regularly, as well as their phenomenal first 4 albums.

I agree that they're recent stuff leaves something to be desired though.

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darkprince45
05/14/20 3:57:47 AM
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Sounds stupid

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joe40001
05/14/20 4:13:28 AM
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I like modest mouse too, or at least float on.

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buddhamonster
05/14/20 4:14:45 AM
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Is Modest Mouse really just stupid white people problems?

A lot of their music is about societal decay and self destructive tendencies with a touch of philosophy thrown in.

How exactly is that white people problems?

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boxington
05/14/20 4:25:03 AM
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iirc, the TC is legit.

he's also black (or part black), from the pictures he has posted, and is pursuing a career in stand-up.

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God_Of_Entirety
05/14/20 4:30:01 AM
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look at all these dudes getting baited lol, ah CEburbia

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Harpie
05/14/20 4:46:37 AM
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My ex gf has a very similar viewpoint. She pretty much exclusively listens to queer and poc artists and will avoid white cis hetero artists

Like you TC, its not something that I personally agree with, but people are entitled to their opinions.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
05/14/20 5:07:20 AM
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What does she think of Judas Priest?

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Bishop9800
05/14/20 5:11:30 AM
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Who or what is a Modest Mouse?

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God_Of_Entirety
05/14/20 5:14:30 AM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Who or what is a Modest Mouse?
some cornball "anthem" band for yuppies. think imagine dragons


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Omasitor Hain
05/14/20 5:15:02 AM
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Modest Mouse is a musical project helmed by Isaac Brock. Often known for its literary references, and contradictory album titles.
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God_Of_Entirety
05/14/20 5:16:20 AM
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Omasitor Hain posted...
Modest Mouse is a musical project helmed by Isaac Brock. Often known for its literary references, and contradictory album titles.
yup some cornball shit

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Heavy_D_Forever
05/14/20 5:16:46 AM
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Tell her they crashed their car into a cop car the other day

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knutjob
05/14/20 5:18:03 AM
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The main themes Isaac Brock writes about disproportionately affect black people more than white people. Alcoholism, broken homes, societal rejection etc
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ZevLoveDOOM
05/14/20 5:18:42 AM
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is that one of those boring ass indie bands that sites like Pitchfork love to hype up?
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Southernfatman
05/14/20 5:20:16 AM
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I've never listen to that band, but it sounds bigoted or at least an ignorant kind of thinking to me. I'm white as a ghost, but can still listen to rap speaking about the problems and struggles of black people just fine. It's good to get another perspective of things if that makes sense.

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God_Of_Entirety
05/14/20 5:20:21 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
is that one of those boring ass indie bands that sites like Pitchfork love to hype up?
yupp

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Funkydog
05/14/20 5:34:24 AM
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Beyonces "put a ring on it" is the true understanding of struggle. Not dealing with alcoholism, depression etc. Etc.

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daddychomsky
05/14/20 5:36:34 AM
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haha white boy got hurt
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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 12:48:37 PM
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buddhamonster posted...
Is Modest Mouse really just stupid white people problems?

A lot of their music is about societal decay and self destructive tendencies with a touch of philosophy thrown in.

How exactly is that white people problems?
Exactly. I tried to explain these things to her but no dice.

In her defense she also said she hates his voice, which is something I hear alot of people criticise about their music. He really has a hate it or love it type of singing voice

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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 12:48:59 PM
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daddychomsky posted...
haha white boy got hurt
I'm not white.

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The Trent
05/14/20 12:49:58 PM
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i saw them open for black keys last year and they didn't even do the one god damn fucking song i know about floating on

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goldenBoi45
05/14/20 12:57:26 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
They suck because that guy's voice is annoying and he's basically drunkenly slurring his words/yelling half the time
Imo he sounds like a drunken sailor kinda, which is fine with me.

Also the instrumentation in their songs is phenomenal. Their drummer is from another fucking planet, and they just have a great chemistry and synergy overall that I enjoy. Eric Judy is a hell of a bass player as well and rarely does anything boring. I'm a sucker for great bass lines

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