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CruelBuffalo
05/14/20 12:08:38 AM
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Calwings
05/14/20 12:11:52 AM
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Unfortunate for all of the Smash players who were looking forward to it, but yeah, the online is pretty fucking garbage.
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Ruddager
05/14/20 12:12:41 AM
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Why is SFV allowed in then tho
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Solar_Crimson
05/14/20 12:15:18 AM
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Between this and the neutering of the Smash World Tour, Ultimate's competitive scene is taking a serious hit this year.

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The-19th-Sparta
05/14/20 12:16:04 AM
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Smash isnt a fighting game anyway, it was an embarrassment that Smash was the main event of last years Evo.

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Summer_Ashigara
05/14/20 12:16:10 AM
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fair, next

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pkmnlord
05/14/20 12:17:46 AM
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Sakurai: All according to plan....

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Heavy_D_Forever
05/14/20 12:19:29 AM
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I still can't believe Nintendo doesn't include ethernet ports on their consoles. You're telling me I need an adapter just to get decent internet? That's some Apple shit.

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Zero_Destroyer
05/14/20 12:21:54 AM
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Ruddager posted...
Why is SFV allowed in then tho

It's not, really. All of the original titles are now closed exhibition events, meaning none of the original titles have open brackets. Smash was removed outright likely due to its poor wifi, but none of these games have the Wifi for an open bracket.

The four games selected AFAIK all have high grade netcode.

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cmiller4642
05/14/20 12:22:40 AM
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Nice way of saying they refused to shower for the event
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FL81
05/14/20 12:23:07 AM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
I still can't believe Nintendo doesn't include ethernet ports on their consoles. You're telling me I need an adapter just to get decent internet? That's some Apple shit.
Even with ethernet, I've noticed my connection being abysmal lately

although that could just be my 15 year old wiring I have being run through the attic

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SSJKirby
05/14/20 12:23:37 AM
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can't wait for people to be publicly shamed for being on WiFi during the skullgirls tournament

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Heavy_D_Forever
05/14/20 12:24:32 AM
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FL81 posted...
Even with ethernet, I've noticed my connection being abysmal lately

although that could just be my 15 year old wiring I have being run through the attic

I dont have a switch but Wii U on ethernet was still slower than Xbox or PS, but Splatoon online was still pretty damn fun regardless.

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xmenhavok
05/14/20 12:24:40 AM
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The only good fighting games online that has great net code are skullgirls and MK11.
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Zero_Destroyer
05/14/20 12:24:52 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Between this and the neutering of the Smash World Tour, Ultimate's competitive scene is taking a serious hit this year.

It's been a really bad year for pretty much any comp esport, but fighting games & related titles took the biggest hits since they rely on high attendance in-person events. I imagine Smash will recover since it has the most grassroots foundation and a very high number of events, but I dunno about the SWT. That might be a no-go. The good news is that it might not be a massive financial sink and maybe they can try again next year.

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DirkDiggles
05/14/20 12:25:09 AM
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I guess they ran out of money for air freshener.

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cmiller4642
05/14/20 12:27:07 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
I guess they ran out of money for air freshener.


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Leanaunfurled
05/14/20 12:28:56 AM
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Damn, that really sucks, two of my friends were heavily considering entering for that. I understand why though.
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Mr_Karate_II
05/14/20 12:29:45 AM
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The-19th-Sparta posted...
Smash isnt a fighting game anyway, it was an embarrassment that Smash was the main event of last years Evo.


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MarqueeSeries
05/14/20 12:30:40 AM
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Looks like every game with shit netcode got the shaft, but they really went deep on Ultimate

oof
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viewmaster_pi
05/14/20 12:30:45 AM
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No one will say anything, the next Nintendo console will be the same, the next Smash will have the same online

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Zero_Destroyer
05/14/20 12:31:41 AM
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The-19th-Sparta posted...
Smash isnt a fighting game anyway, it was an embarrassment that Smash was the main event of last years Evo.

nah smash cool

If Smash was easy I'd agree but it's as hard as anything else on stage to be good at, so why not? It being a platformer fighter instead of a traditional fighter doesn't differentiate it that much.

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GMP
05/14/20 1:54:24 PM
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Also sad because, at least to my understanding, MvC2 was also removed from the lineup.

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s0nicfan
05/14/20 1:55:30 PM
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Hopefully this is the kick in the ass developers need to implement proper rollback.

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s0nicfan
05/14/20 1:56:13 PM
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GMP posted...
Also sad because, at least to my understanding, MvC2 was also removed from the lineup.

The only version of MVC2 with functional netcode is the 360 version, and Capcom removed it from the store years ago. It's literally impossible to legally obtain it, so they didn't really have a choice.

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CruelBuffalo
05/14/20 1:59:44 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The only version of MVC2 with functional netcode is the 360 version, and Capcom removed it from the store years ago. It's literally impossible to legally obtain it, so they didn't really have a choice.

not really. If you own the game you can redownload it
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BakonBitz
05/14/20 2:00:50 PM
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Ruddager posted...
Why is SFV allowed in then tho
PC version is okay, so they might use that.

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xmenhavok
05/14/20 2:02:38 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
PC version is okay, so they might use that.
If they use that modder net code it would be okay, but they won't.
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GMP
05/14/20 2:03:09 PM
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If you remember correctly, they were originally going to hold an MvC2 tournament for OG EVO 2020, to celebrate the game's 20th anniversary.


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billcom6
05/14/20 2:03:22 PM
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Why don't games just copy the netcode from games with good netcode?

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GMP
05/14/20 2:03:57 PM
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billcom6 posted...
Why don't games just copy the netcode from games with good netcode?
That's not how it works.

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fohstick
05/14/20 2:07:42 PM
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among the main games, SFV actually has the best netcode. But games with NRS-based netcode or GGPO will be superior, and thus have open online tournament
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apocalyptic_4
05/14/20 2:08:34 PM
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This is what you deserve when Nintendo dosen't take its online infrastructure seriously.

Nintendo takes pride in being a decade behind its competition in basic online functionality its embarrassing.

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Hayame Zero
05/14/20 2:10:02 PM
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The-19th-Sparta posted...
Smash isnt a fighting game anyway, it was an embarrassment that Smash was the main event of last years Evo.
Smash isn't a fighting game in the traditional sense, but it's just as competitive as any other game at the tournament.

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Jabodie
05/14/20 2:14:41 PM
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GMP posted...
That's not how it works.
Well, GGPO is now open source so it's kinda how it works.

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GMP
05/14/20 2:15:58 PM
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Hayame Zero posted...
Smash isn't a fighting game in the traditional sense, but it's just as competitive as any other game at the tournament.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0wg3t6osM

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