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DishSoap
05/11/20 12:46:28 PM
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I heard the series is good and wanna finally try it

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Dreamgamer_lgbt
05/11/20 1:14:55 PM
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I watch all anime only with sub if I need it.

Nothing wrong with dub , but the text must be slightly changed to fit. Sometimes the different reaction in speech can make big difference and can lead you to misunderstanding of the character's personality.

Sub is not perfect either , because while the anime or movie is being translated the directors don't focus on pure translation. They think that people in different countries with different culture would not understand or appreciate the original ,so they change some text a bit to make it more fitting for the specific audience.

In my opinion , there is nothing to misunderstand. If you watch anime, you will most likely hear or read about Japan's culture and similar things and while it's a bit different ...it's not so different from anyone else and it's clearly understandable. There is no need to for changes in translation. I would rather appreciate the original , because I find the character's responses way better and more fitting.

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ForteEXE3850
05/11/20 1:19:51 PM
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It's really depends on how comfortable you are with subs.

Personally, I always want to hear something in the original voices if I can, but I know some people really despise having to read subs.

But if you're okay with subs I say subs.

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EvilMegas
05/11/20 1:28:02 PM
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Dreamgamer_lgbt posted...
Nothing wrong with dub , but the text must be slightly changed to fit. Sometimes the different reaction in speech can make big difference and can lead you to misunderstanding of the character's personality.
Very, very rarely does this happen and it doesn't happen in NGE. The literal Netflix dub just made the show more awkward to watch.

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Dreamgamer_lgbt
05/11/20 1:34:20 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Very, very rarely does this happen and it doesn't happen in NGE. The literal Netflix dub just made the show more awkward to watch.

I would say it happens all the time.

But our opinion can be different because we might watch different anime series.

It's a bit annoying when you hear your favorite character say something good in Japanese and then read something that doesn't make it so special in the english traslation.

Sometimes I'm having a hard time convincing my friends that the character was very thoughtful rather than what it seemed to be that he didn't care , something like that.

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DishSoap
05/11/20 1:35:35 PM
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I ended up choosing sub, not watching on netflix tho, I borrowed DVDs off cousin lol. I did one episode but was up all night

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EvilMegas
05/11/20 1:37:41 PM
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Dreamgamer_lgbt posted...
I would say it happens all the time.

But our opinion can be different because we might watch different anime series.

It's a bit annoying when you hear your favorite character say something good in Japanese and then read something that doesn't make it so special in the english traslation.

Sometimes I'm having a hard time convincing my friends that the character was very thoughtful rather than what it seemed to be that he didn't care , something like that.
Like what for example?
(Note: I'm not being aggressive or mean. I'm curious.)

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Nichtcrawler X
05/11/20 1:49:06 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Very, very rarely does this happen and it doesn't happen in NGE. The literal Netflix dub just made the show more awkward to watch.

It seems Anno disagrees.

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Nichtcrawler X
05/11/20 1:49:55 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Like what for example?
(Note: I'm not being aggressive or mean. I'm curious.)

The best example of a dub personality change is Goku.

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EvilMegas
05/11/20 1:53:48 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
The best example of a dub personality change is Goku.
Oh, that one is a given.

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Bugmeat
05/11/20 1:58:05 PM
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Dubs. For everything.


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Pus_N_Pecans
05/11/20 1:59:39 PM
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Sub, but the dub isnt bad.

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lihlih
05/11/20 2:32:26 PM
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EvilMegas posted...

Oh, that one is a given.


Apparently they changed it back in Super, and I fucking hate Goku in Super. Also, Goku sounds like a goddamn grandma is the sub, so fuck sub Goku.
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Judgmenl
05/11/20 2:48:29 PM
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I always prefer dubs over subs.
I watched dubbed Evangelion and subbed EoE.

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Dreamgamer_lgbt
05/11/20 4:16:01 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Like what for example?
(Note: I'm not being aggressive or mean. I'm curious.)

The difference usually occurs in personal lines from a big line that can hint character's personality to small lines or details that can make scene funny or more serious.

Most fighting scenes or scenes where a character gives an order are translated well , most likely accurately.

I would say it's hard to translate lots of english expressions to japanese and lots of japanese expressions to english. But it would feel better to first try to understand the thinking of the art's creator and then watch his/hers original piece than watch version that was made on assumption that you will understand it better.

Just my opinion. I prefer it that way.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/11/20 5:07:24 PM
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For eva I personally think both the sub and dub are fairly bad so I usually just go with the dub.

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Lokarin
05/11/20 5:38:35 PM
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YoukaiSlayer posted...
For eva I personally think both the sub and dub are fairly bad so I usually just go with the dub.

Yaknow, in retrospect... ... eva might just actually be bad.

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YoukaiSlayer
05/11/20 9:49:28 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Yaknow, in retrospect... ... eva might just actually be bad.
I'm personally quite the fan of eva, I just don't think either voice cast did a particularly great job. I do understand why people don't like it though.

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Marcster1994
05/11/20 10:04:07 PM
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If it wasn't the Netflix version, the dub.

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Judgmenl
05/12/20 6:09:17 AM
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Marcster1994 posted...
If it wasn't the Netflix version, the dub.
Definitely don't watch the Netflix version. The lack of Fly Me to the Moon kills the vibe.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
05/12/20 10:42:11 AM
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The original sub is fine, but Shinji's Japanese VA annoyed me. The original dub is one of the best of its era, but the Netflix one sucks (not so much the performances, but the script changes).

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Aculo
05/12/20 11:31:25 AM
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lol people actually watch dubs?

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YoukaiSlayer
05/12/20 11:33:44 AM
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Aculo posted...
lol people actually watch dubs?
For some anime I'd argue it's the ideal way to do it. Especially anime that don't take place in japan like cowboy bebop and black lagoon. There's also something kind of charming and nostalgic to me about old shitty dubs. Rewatching outlaw star right now, dubbed like it was on toonami all those years ago, and it's pretty bad, but somehow that enhances it for me.

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I_Abibde
05/12/20 11:42:05 AM
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*shrugs*

I enjoy the sub and both dubs.

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DishSoap
05/12/20 12:38:30 PM
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Wait netflix redubbed it?

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EvilMegas
05/12/20 12:52:35 PM
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Yes, a direct transition. It's awful.

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Aculo
05/12/20 12:55:18 PM
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DishSoap posted...
Wait netflix redubbed it?
yeah, i watched some comparison videos, and i don't see what the point was, exactly. the quality didn't go up at all, which is what i would have expected. instead they said the translation was a little more accurate, which is fine, i guess, ok?

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DesertPenguin09
05/12/20 1:01:01 PM
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No one asked for it to be more accurate, they just wanted the original content in a nice concise place to watch. Netflix couldn't do that right and had to make it their own somehow.

TC, I asked the same question a few months ago and ended up watching the Netflix dub and checking YouTube for the changes. There's a few major ones that people harp on but overall it's fine. I prefer a dub so I can look away from the TV for a second if need be (cats and web browsing at the same time). Sure I could watch the sub and focus solely on the TV for the entire time but I get bored of having to constantly read along all night. And the later it gets the more tired reading makes me so there's that.

That said, I forced myself to watch the Dragon Ball Super sub because I wanted to see how it ended before the dub would catch up.

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EvilMegas
05/12/20 1:23:17 PM
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Aculo posted...
yeah, i watched some comparison videos, and i don't see what the point was, exactly. the quality didn't go up at all, which is what i would have expected. instead they said the translation was a little more accurate, which is fine, i guess, ok?

Here the difference:

OG dub "shinji is the 3rd child"

Netflix " shinji is the 3rd children"

Just awkward shit like that, that didn't need to exist but does so because the creator doesn't understand translation, apparently.

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DesertPenguin09
05/12/20 1:27:12 PM
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Then there's the infamous "I'm so fucked up" line in End of Evangelion

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Judgmenl
05/12/20 2:29:03 PM
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DesertPenguin09 posted...
Then there's the infamous "I'm so fucked up" line in End of Evangelion
It's just worth it to watch the sub for EoE.


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DesertPenguin09
05/12/20 7:58:50 PM
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Even the subtitle on Netflix doesn't say that line!

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Judgmenl
05/12/20 8:01:07 PM
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How many people here have actually seen The End of Evangelion to fully understand how fucked up that scene is?

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DesertPenguin09
05/12/20 8:17:51 PM
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He jerks off on top of an unconscious Asuka and ejaculates on his hand. Yea, he's pretty ficked up

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Judgmenl
05/12/20 8:24:22 PM
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Yes but why he does it is way more important.
Shinji is fucked up. The entire latter half of the series and End of Evangelion is all about why Shinji is fucked up and his eventual acceptance of it and he believes he has nobody to talk to.

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DishSoap
05/13/20 3:41:29 AM
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No spoilers pls;-;

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DesertPenguin09
05/13/20 12:00:05 PM
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You want to know if the Sub or Dub is better, but don't want spoilers. That's impossible. In describing what makes one better than the other you kind of have to cite examples and therefore you gain knowledge of the show. Just fucking watch it already and if you don't like it switch to the other or turn it off entirely.

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el_cheato
05/13/20 12:04:06 PM
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The new Netflix dub has some small changes that drastically change the way certain very important scenes and character arcs are interpretted, and changed some music because of licensing. Whichever way you go, make sure it's the old release and not the Netflix version.

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DesertPenguin09
05/13/20 12:07:38 PM
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Just find a torrent. I can link you privately if you'd like.

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hmnut7
05/13/20 12:19:40 PM
#40:


I respect everyone's super thought out suggestions. Mine is super simple.

If you have to ask. Dubs. When in doubt just do dubs.

Just basic human nature, it is harder to focus on something if your eyes gather have to gather all the information and it's coming in two different formats. It's just easier if your ears can carry some of the information gathering weight.

If someone knows they like subs, they should do subs, if they know they like dubs they should do dubs. But if they are not sure they do dubs for ease of access.

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DesertPenguin09
05/13/20 12:25:02 PM
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hmnut7 posted...
I respect everyone's super thought out suggestions. Mine is super simple.

If you have to ask. Dubs. When in doubt just do dubs.

Just basic human nature, it is harder to focus on something if your eyes gather have to gather all the information and it's coming in two different formats. It's just easier if your ears can carry some of the information gathering weight.

If someone knows they like subs, they should do subs, if they know they like dubs they should do dubs. But if they are not sure they do dubs for ease of access.
This.

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DishSoap
05/14/20 5:15:31 AM
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I watched first episode subbed and switched to dub, I heard worse dubs, I dont mind it. On episode 19ish I think. Watching on dvd not netflix

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DishSoap
05/14/20 5:19:38 AM
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DesertPenguin09 posted...
You want to know if the Sub or Dub is better, but don't want spoilers. That's impossible. In describing what makes one better than the other you kind of have to cite examples and therefore you gain knowledge of the show. Just fucking watch it already and if you don't like it switch to the other or turn it off entirely.

Someone was describing a scene, of shinji jacking off over someone or something that I stopped reading, chilllll

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DesertPenguin09
05/14/20 10:22:39 AM
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That someone was me. Sorry I spoiled that for you but learn to read.

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EvilMegas
05/14/20 10:33:52 AM
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DesertPenguin09 posted...
That someone was me. Sorry I spoiled that for you but learn to read.
To be fair, it's one of the most infamous scenes in anime.

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DishSoap
05/14/20 7:12:46 PM
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DesertPenguin09 posted...
That someone was me. Sorry I spoiled that for you but learn to read.

Learn to read? What's point of that comment. I skimmed your spoilers

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