Poll of the Day > Man faked death to avoid bankruptcy

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Wow, just wow! Some people will go to great lengths to avoid obligations.

Geyer and his wife, Patricia Sue Geyer, from Saltville, filed for voluntary bankruptcy in late 2018, listing liabilities of $532,583.80, according to court documents.

How does someone get that deep in debt?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/virginia-man-russell-geyer-faked-his-own-death-in-ridiculously-elaborate-plot-to-avoid-bankruptcy

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It's not new. Many people did that before. I don't see how possible it is now with everything about everyone being digitized.

BUMPED2002 posted...

How does someone get that deep in debt?

Medical bills

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Wow, just wow! Some people will go to great lengths to avoid obligations.

Something says me the path of bankruptcy, is a far easier one than proving you are alive after legally having been declared death.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Something says me the path of bankruptcy, is a far easier one than proving you are alive after legally having been declared death.

How so? It should go like "yeah I know you said I was dead but I'm actually alive, here's my finger prints for proof" unless biological evidence isn't enough

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Muscles posted...

How so? It should go like "yeah I know you said I was dead but I'm actually alive, here's my finger prints for proof" unless biological evidence isn't enough

That part is easy yes, then comes the bureaucracy involved.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

How does someone get that deep in debt?

If you actually read the article, you'd have your answer... well, more or less. They had a lot of individual debts, including a home, a rental, THREE vehicles, furniture, and... well, the story says they had 50 creditors. When you have 50 creditors, you're going to have a hard time keeping up.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

Medical bills

While that's one of many ways a person can get deeply in debt, in this case his medical condition was supposedly faked as part of a ploy to fake his death. Instead it looks like it was a combination of a *lot* of unpaid expenses.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Something says me the path of bankruptcy, is a far easier one than proving you are alive after legally having been declared death.

If it's the original identity, providing that you're alive isn't hard considering you'd have witnesses, photographic evidence, dental records, etc. For a lot of the other stuff associated with it, bankruptcy can be equally burdensome since either way you're going to have serious issues securing loans, etc. Granted, if you're coming back under the original identity, any debts would likely continue to follow you.

Unless you just mean generally proving oneself to being alive, at which point all you'd need to demonstrate is a pulse.

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JOExHIGASHI posted...

Medical bills

Isn't the whole point of having health insurance is to guard against this sort of thing? if someone has health insurance and still end up this much in debt, something is clearly wrong here.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Isn't the whole point of having health insurance is to guard against this sort of thing? if someone has health insurance and still end up this much in debt, something is clearly wrong here.

Depending on a myriad of factors, this can actually fairly easily happen.

Absolute chad.

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Zeus posted...

If you actually read the article

Zeus posted...

JOExHIGASHI posted...

Medical bills

While that's one of many ways a person can get deeply in debt, in this case his medical condition was supposedly faked as part of a ploy to fake his death. Instead it looks like it was a combination of a *lot* of unpaid expenses.

They hadnt paid electricity bills, bank overdrafts, credit card bills, and dozens of medical bills

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HelIWithoutSin posted...

...and if you bothered to quote or even read the rest of the article, you'll see that pretty much everything they owned was financed or on credit, including shit like their TV. Again, they had FIFTY creditors. The narrative that they just had some medical bills is ridiculous. They took on an absurd number of financial obligations that they shouldn't have.

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He faces up to life in prison.

Ahh, the priorities of America

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Zeus posted...

...and if you bothered to quote or even read the rest of the article, you'll see that pretty much everything they owned was financed or on credit, including shit like their TV. Again, they had FIFTY creditors. The narrative that they just had some medical bills is ridiculous. They took on an absurd number of financial obligations that they shouldn't have.

Oh I read it, including the part about their dozens of medical bills. I also read where you gave TC shit for not reading the article and then proceed to create your own narrative omitting their real, non-fake medical bills.

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HelIWithoutSin posted...

Oh I read it, including the part about their dozens of medical bills. I also read where you gave TC shit for not reading the article and then proceed to create your own narrative omitting their real, non-fake medical bills.

...which were only a small part of the overall debt, considering they owed on everything. Pretending that people who repeatedly and recklessly financed everything -- in addition to having two properties when they couldn't even afford one -- were simply laid low by medical bills isn't merely a narrative, it's a deceit. Again, they had FIFTY creditors. The fact that they weren't paying medical bills on top of the hundreds and hundreds of other bills isn't of any particular significance.

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Zeus posted...

...which were only a small part of the overall debt, considering they owed on everything.

Nope. They were one of many things but they are not equally weighted. One hospital bill could be more than all three cars combined.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Nope. They were one of many things but they are not equally weighted. One hospital bill could be more than all three cars combined.

Only in America.
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BUMPED2002 posted...

Isn't the whole point of having health insurance is to guard against this sort of thing? if someone has health insurance and still end up this much in debt, something is clearly wrong here.

That's America for you

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Nope. They were one of many things but they are not equally weighted. One hospital bill could be more than all three cars combined.

Or the most expensive bill could be less that of the tv. And given how far the medical bills are buried, you'd kinda have to assume that they're small compared to the other shit especially since if it was a huge bill they would have led with that.

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I mean an ambulance ride alone can be like $800 or $900. For a single one.

I think my sis had a hospital bill of like $3k just for being picked up and blood work. Ended up being high blood pressure that made her dizzy and lose balance/fall over while at work.