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Shablagoo
05/06/20 3:08:43 AM
#101:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Then did Full Throttle style write ups of "WHITE MAN WHO IS WHITE STALKS AND SHOOTS UNARMED BLACK CHILD, STAND YOUR GROUND OR MURDER?" with photos of Martin as an 11 year old and Zimmerman looking like a prison convict (which were contrasted to make him appear whiter) and duped people like you and TC.

So youre just going to ignore that the media also painted Trayvon as some sort of violent criminal for smoking cannabis and skipping school (neither of which are punishable by the fucking death penalty btw)?

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Houston
05/06/20 10:02:06 AM
#102:


Shablagoo posted...
So youre just going to ignore that the media also painted Trayvon as some sort of violent criminal for smoking cannabis and skipping school (neither of which are punishable by the fucking death penalty btw)?

Don't forget his stealing and the photos with him posing with guns, smoking weed and holding up the middle finger.

No, not punishable by death. But it sheds light on his thought process and mentality. He wanted to be a tough guy and it all adds to the plausibility and likeliness that he was capable of attacking someone. That wasn't used in the trial, though.

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EnragedSlith
05/06/20 10:03:06 AM
#103:


UnfairRepresent posted...
That's a circular argument and you know it.

No, that's reality. There's a long history of this exact sort of bullshit that goes unrecognized because we conveniently leave it out of American history classes. Most people think slavery ended and then there was this civil rights movement, but nobody ever digs into the hundred years between the two. And so we get crap like your argument.

Imagine actually defending a gun-wielding adult who stalked a kid and killed him.

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Machete
05/06/20 11:22:26 AM
#104:


Kastrada posted...

You post a long ass diatribe arguing stuff I never even addressed.


That's his gimmick. When he argues, he never doesn't do that.
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UnfairRepresent
05/06/20 12:59:12 PM
#105:



This is one explanation. He didnt want to lead the creepy guy following him back to his home. Another is that he was on the phone with his friend and wanted to finish the call before going inside.


That's silly.

1. He'd got away from the "creepy guy" then turned around to find him again
2. We know that he turned around and went after Zimmerman and what he said to her, so the whole "Wanted to finish the call first" makes no sense. The fight didn't take place at Trayvon's home.

There is no evidence to back up your "explanations" , the existing evidence disproves them and they still don't justify trying to murder someone

None of that matters though because he could have walked up and down the street all night if he wanted nothing illegal about that and its certainly not grounds for charging him with the death penalty.


Agreed. The issue isn't walking down the street the issue is attacking someone.

I wish you'd share that simple fact with Zimmerman too.

Funny how UR has spent hours avoiding watching the video in the OP which destroys all of his points.


If it destroys the points the police made and the evidence that was raised in the trial, you need to pass it on to the florida police.

But it doesn't do that. It just screams clickbait nonsense at people like you who are too scared to look at the trial

None of the shit UR is spewing about the events of that night can be proven. Theres nothing that proves Trayvon started the altercation or wasnt himself acting in self-defense.


Except there is. The evidence from the trial you refuse to look at.

Why won't you go look up the trial?

You keep saying things that are blatantly untrue because some dumb video or blog told you them. But you refuse to actually look at the things that matter.

Shablagoo posted...


So youre just going to ignore that the media also painted Trayvon as some sort of violent criminal for smoking cannabis and skipping school (neither of which are punishable by the fucking death penalty btw)?


EnragedSlith posted...


No, that's reality. There's a long history of this exact sort of bullshit that goes unrecognized because we conveniently leave it out of American history classes. Most people think slavery ended and then there was this civil rights movement, but nobody ever digs into the hundred years between the two. And so we get crap like your argument.

Imagine actually defending a gun-wielding adult who stalked a kid and killed him.


"This is what the police and evidence says."
"No its not."
"Yes it is look."
"Yeah well the police are all liars! So all that evidence actually means the exact opposite!"

It's absurd

You're literally arguing that no matter what reality says, it's a lie and whatever fantasy you created in your mind is correct.

That's a circular argument. There is nothing and no reason to suggest the cops were lying about anything, and the jury agreed with them.

You're on par with anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers here. "Yeah all the evidence and scientists may say that climate change is real but they are liars just trying to get paid so the opposite of what they say is true."

You have no actual point
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Kastrada
05/06/20 6:01:51 PM
#106:


Machete posted...
That's his gimmick. When he argues, he never doesn't do that.

Oh I know. But usually it's in the realm of an actual debate or discussion on a topic right? This was something that went above and beyond the normal gimmick. Like going into concerned territory.

I mean I was called a "silly moo" for goodness sakes!

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:08:07 AM
#107:


UR, in the 45 hours youve spent trolling people ITT, you could have watched the video 100 times. Youve conceded defeat here and that we dont have to read any more of your incorrect drivel on this matter.

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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 3:15:43 AM
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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 3:24:13 AM
#109:


What a surpise.

No points, no retorts, no actual arguments.

Just ignore everything and insult people.
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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 3:24:51 AM
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Kastrada
05/07/20 3:26:43 AM
#111:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Just ignore everything and insult people.

You literally called me a silly moo.

A SILLY MOO

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:26:58 AM
#112:


Dont come into a topic and start spewing nonsense when you refuse to even digest the information in the OP. I already told you its not some clickbait, biased video. Youre too stubborn to watch it though, proving that youre not worth taking seriously here.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 3:29:22 AM
#113:


Shablagoo posted...
Dont come into a topic and start spewing nonsense when you refuse to even digest the information in the OP. I already told you its not some clickbait, biased video. Youre too stubborn to watch it though, proving that youre not worth taking seriously here.

Coming from the man who is unwilling to look up the trial. Then calls everything stated in the trial "nonsense"

and unwilling to respond to the 100 points that have ripped everything he said apart.

You are such a bad faith poster, you have ignored absolutely everything that has been said in the topic. You've just evaded everything and have no actual point of your own
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Kastrada
05/07/20 3:37:29 AM
#114:


Can someone quote Post #45 please?

@Shablagoo

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:39:20 AM
#115:


Its MY topic, dude. I specifically linked a video in my OP, for people to watch. You came in here with your usual Zimmerman-slurping dogma. Make your own topic if thats all you want to do. If you want to stay in THIS topic, watch the video.

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:41:15 AM
#116:


Kastrada posted...
Can someone quote Post #45 please?

@Shablagoo


UnfairRepresent posted...
Walking down a public street is not breaking the law as harrasement.

You are lying.

It's also not a justification for attempted murder

I shouldn't even have to say that. It's shocking that I do

And Trayvon then followed and ambushed Zimmerman. So if it's harrasment then Martin broke the law too you silly moo. Your own argument is not only wrong, it still defends Zimmerman.

It's mindboggling


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Kastrada
05/07/20 3:42:50 AM
#117:


Shablagoo posted...
So if it's harrasment then Martin broke the law too you silly moo.

Thanks! Proof that I was insulted earlier. Making them a hypocrite!

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 3:44:55 AM
#118:


Kastrada posted...
Thanks! Proof that I was insulted earlier. Making them a hypocrite!

I for one am SHOCKED that UnfairRepresent would engage in hypocrisy >.>

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Blue_Dream87
05/07/20 3:49:17 AM
#119:


This topic is supposedly 100+ posts but I only see 25

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Middle hope
05/07/20 4:02:08 AM
#120:


Zimmerman is like binky from arthur and trayvon is like arthur from arthur. Binky is a bully

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Kastrada
05/07/20 4:03:01 AM
#121:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
This topic is supposedly 100+ posts but I only see 25

It's mostly someone saying it's totally okay to stalk and kill a teenager if they are bigger than you.

But it's not okay for that teenager to defend themselves from their stalker and that they deserve to die.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 4:13:30 AM
#123:


Kastrada posted...

It's mostly someone saying it's totally okay to stalk and kill a teenager if they are bigger than you.


"I have no argument so I will lie"

No one stalked anyone and the act was self defense

But it's not okay for that teenager to defend themselves from their stalker and that they deserve to die.


Following someone, ambushing them and attempting to kill them is not self defense

And no one is saying anyone "deserved to die." Jesus Christ.

metallica846 posted...
Didnt Trayvon attack Zimmerman


Yes

and nearly kill him?


He threatened too.
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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:15:22 AM
#124:


Trayvon Martin would be alive if he didn't assault a Hispanic man for no reason.

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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 4:18:40 AM
#125:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Trayvon Martin would be alive if he didn't assault a Hispanic man for no reason.
Walking down a street minding his own business is a death threat according to UR

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:20:52 AM
#126:


metallica846 posted...
Didnt Trayvon attack Zimmerman and nearly kill him?

There is no evidence of that beyond Zimmermans story, which changed repeatedly and was full of holes, embellishments, and lies. Not to mention he had every reason to lie.

Examples include but are not limited to misjudging where the interaction occurred, lying about his conversation with the dispatcher, claiming he didnt know the name of the street that hed lived on for years, claiming he had to go closer to Trayvon to get an address for the dispatcher even though there were much closer addresses he could have read, going into a dark area for safety when he could have stayed in a well-lit area. Conveniently moving his phone to a different pocket that happened to be right next to where his gun was so he could claim he was calling the police rather than drawing a weapon on an unarmed teenager. Supposedly calling the police rather than drawing his firearm when he supposedly was fearing for his safety and in imminent danger. Its all in the video. Watch it at 2x speed in 20 minutes, thats less than the length of a short TV episode.


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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:24:04 AM
#127:


Rika_Furude posted...
Walking down a street minding his own business is a death threat according to UR
That's what happened but ok.

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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 4:25:43 AM
#128:


Jagermeister513 posted...
That's what happened but ok.
Thats what trayvon was doing. Zimmerman was the stalker and aggressor. UR thinks Trayvon was in the wrong. Maybe theres some sort of undertone there

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:26:28 AM
#129:


Oh and Zimmermans recounting of the alleged threat Trayvon made to him is so absurd it borders on the line of parody. He might as well have said, I, Trayvon Martin, hereby declare my intention to murder you and thus grant you the legal authority to exercise your right to stand your ground. Thats how fake it sounds.

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:26:39 AM
#130:


Rika_Furude posted...
Thats what trayvon was doing. Zimmerman was the stalker and aggressor. UR thinks Trayvon was in the wrong. Maybe theres some sort of undertone there
Nope, not what happened. Sorry.

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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 4:26:53 AM
#131:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Nope, not what happened. Sorry.
Ok boomer

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:27:26 AM
#132:


Rika_Furude posted...
Ok boomer
Joke's on you, Zoomer, I'm Gen X.

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Rika_Furude
05/07/20 4:27:54 AM
#133:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Joke's on you, Zoomer, I'm Gen X.
That aint how it be

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:28:01 AM
#134:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Joke's on you, Zoomer, I'm Gen X.

Jokes on you, boomer, youre behind on the zeitgeist.

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:28:57 AM
#135:


Shablagoo posted...
Jokes on you, boomer, youre behind on the zeitgeist.
Yikes!

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 4:30:51 AM
#137:


Shablagoo posted...

There is no evidence of that beyond Zimmermans story,

False.

You didn't follow the trial.

There is a gigantic heap of evidence.

Shablagoo posted...

Examples include but are not limited to misjudging where the interaction occurred,


By about 3 feet...

Remember the interaction took place at night in the rain and he was getting his face caved in.

lying about his conversation with the dispatcher, claiming he didnt know the name of the street that hed lived on for years, claiming he had to go closer to Trayvon to get an address for the dispatcher even though there were much closer addresses he could have read,


False. The supposed "lie" is that he didn't mention that Trayvon circled his car to the dispatcher but did later to the place. Which we have no evidence to disprove or prove and is irrelevant to the caseeither way.

Also it was night and dark. Going "He went to check out a street sign instead of walking up to people's houses." isn't that odd and is no proof that it is a lie.

Conveniently moving his phone to a different pocket that happened to be right next to where his gun was so he could claim he was calling the police rather than drawing a weapon on an unarmed teenager.

How is that a lie?

Supposedly calling the police rather than drawing his firearm when he supposedly was fearing for his safety and in imminent danger.


He was on the phone to the police for almost the entire altercation. This is like the most believable part of the entire story

Its all in the video. Watch it at 2x speed in 20 minutes, thats less than the length of a short TV episode.


The video is dogshit repeating tired myths and nonsense. Pretty much everything stated in it has already been debunked in this topic alone just by talking to other people repeating the shit.

You're nitpicking through a recollection of events, going "Well that minor detail is wrong, therefore everything is lies, i will ignore all other evidence and he deserves to die" and it's madness.

There is no grounds to dispell the evidence against Martin or to explain how Zimmerman wasn't entitled to self-defense, so to continue the myths you just focus on character attacks.
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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:31:28 AM
#138:


Rika_Furude posted...
That aint how it be
They don't think it be like it is but it do

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 4:33:04 AM
#139:


metallica846 posted...
Holy crap. Thats an overwhelming amount of evidence against Zimmerman. Should have been an easy conviction. What happened?

"We started a media circus that told lies to get everyone to hate you but don't actually have a case." didn't hold up in court.

So he was found not guilty on all counts by a jury. Including counts of manslaughter and child abuse, since he got off on basic 101 Self-defense laws, not because the prosecution failed to prove intent.

Something TC and his shitty video didn't know because they didn't follow the trial.
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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:33:45 AM
#140:


George Zimmerman is not white.

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:34:57 AM
#141:


Jagermeister513 posted...
George Zimmerman is not white.

He himself identified as white in police interviews.

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:35:18 AM
#142:


Shablagoo posted...
He himself identified as white in police interviews.
Nope. Try again.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/20 4:36:40 AM
#143:


Jagermeister513 posted...
George Zimmerman is not white.

He's White Hispanic.

It just demonstrates how stupid the race stuff is.
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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:36:46 AM
#144:


Jagermeister513 posted...
Nope. Try again.

Yep, he did. Shut the fuck up.

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:37:56 AM
#145:


Shablagoo posted...
Yep, he did. Shut the fuck up.
He's literally as white as Obama.

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SomeLikeItHoth
05/07/20 4:42:21 AM
#147:


Its sad to see users who are easily fooled by the media. Trayvon threatened to murder George and bashed his head in.

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Kastrada
05/07/20 4:42:59 AM
#148:


UnfairRepresent posted...
"I have no argument so I will lie"

No one stalked anyone and the act was self defense

Following someone, ambushing them and attempting to kill them is not self defense

And no one is saying anyone "deserved to die." Jesus Christ.

Yes

He threatened too.

Oh good, you finally acknowledged me. I knew saying something outlandish would bring you back.

No answer me please.

  1. Why were you putting words in my mouth earlier?
  2. How was I a hypocrite for not even giving an opinion on the case?
  3. Who the fuck are you to call people out for insults when you insulted me earlier in this topic?
And again, for the record, I STILL haven't given any opinion on this case. I literally just made that ridiculous post in hopes you'd finally respond. ^_^

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Shablagoo
05/07/20 4:43:31 AM
#149:


SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Its sad to see users who are easily fooled by the media. Trayvon threatened to murder George and bashed his head in.

According to the guy that murdered him with no witnesses. Hmm, wonder if he had any motivation to lie.

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Jagermeister513
05/07/20 4:44:01 AM
#150:


metallica846 posted...
Zimmerman is half white so its not unheard of to say that. He definitely looks white.
Obama is half white and yet he's called our first "black" president.

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