Current Events > Coronavirus 18: Man of Science. Man of Faith.

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Dogs to sniff out covid 19

https://www.france24.com/en/20200518-training-dogs-to-sniff-out-covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/05/18/dogs-training-to-detect-coronavirus-infections-foster-lead-vpx.cnn
https://abc7news.com/dogs-coronavirus-can-sniff-covid-19-detect-covid-19-get/6190082/

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Florida Gov says move to quarantine New Yorkers helped prevent more deaths in Florida
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-new-york-quarantine-saved-lives-desantis-20200518-4pvfeam6ujb5zcr7hkuuoeeek4-story.html

Notre Dame to begin fall semester on campus the week of Aug. 10
https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/

108 million people are under lockdown in China after about 34 new cases of coronavirus
https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/natural-disasters/498277-millions-under-lockdown-in-china-after-cluster


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My county's two hospitals are diverting covid patients to other hospitals in other counties as of this morning. Our rate of infection is 1 in every 205 people. Not quite NYC but pretty damn bad. Apparently patients from Mexico flooding our hospitals because they were unable to get treatment in Mexico.

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1262763774118748163?s=21

NYU and Columbia Plan To Resume In-Person Classes In The Fall
https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-updates-may-19

Cambridge University moves all lectures online until summer 2021
https://www.lbcnews.co.uk/uk-news/cambridge-university-announced-move-to-hold-all-le/

CDC: COVID-19 spread silently through a rural Arkansas church in March before first case was diagnosed in state
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-spread-silently-through-rural-arkansas-church-march-cdc-n1210391

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DundiesAward posted...

Florida Gov says move to quarantine New Yorkers helped prevent more deaths in Florida
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-new-york-quarantine-saved-lives-desantis-20200518-4pvfeam6ujb5zcr7hkuuoeeek4-story.html

Notre Dame to begin fall semester on campus the week of Aug. 10
https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/

108 million people are under lockdown in China after about 34 new cases of coronavirus
https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/natural-disasters/498277-millions-under-lockdown-in-china-after-cluster

Florida. Big joke about quarantining New Yorkers because I-95 was blockaded but it is not the only highway.

Notre Dame. They should let the faculty remote teach even if they let the students come to campus.

China. I like this Bloomberg article because the link given will allow adblocker. The graphics card on my PC is too senile to handle ads.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/over-100-million-in-china-s-northeast-thrown-back-under-lockdown

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Here is a New York Times op ed by Paul Krugman, a Marxist economist (on their staff I believe)

https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/PK_sample.html?action=click&module=nl-index-see-the-latest


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DundiesAward posted...

NYU and Columbia Plan To Resume In-Person Classes In The Fall
https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-updates-may-19

That seems pretty risky. These ain't self contained universities. One is blocks from the hood and the other blocks from some of the hippest spots in the city. Mix everything in and it seems disastrous.

Also add in NYU Polytechnic out in downtown fucking Brooklyn.

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InfinityMonster posted...

That seems pretty risky. These ain't self contained universities. One is blocks from the hood and the other blocks from some of the hippest spots in the city. Mix everything in and it seems disastrous.

Also add in NYU Polytechnic out in downtown fucking Brooklyn.

I agree. They can set up a classroom so that students and faculty have the choice of in the flesh attendance or virtual attendance. If they think opening is ok, surely there is no reason to demand it. Students determined to cheat just pay for someone to attend their classes as well as take the tests.

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Epidemics in wild life is nothing new but it really resonates because of what people across the globe are facing. This is a disease that is rabbits only

https://wgntv.com/news/a-highly-contagious-virus-is-killing-rabbits-in-multiple-states/

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InfinityMonster posted...

That seems pretty risky. These ain't self contained universities. One is blocks from the hood and the other blocks from some of the hippest spots in the city. Mix everything in and it seems disastrous.

Also add in NYU Polytechnic out in downtown fucking Brooklyn.

I'm thinking it has to do with deposits/money. Those schools cost 70-75k a year to attend. A lot of students might defer rather than pay that for 75k online classes. This way NYU/Columbia and any other school doing in person classes get that deposit before the semester. I believe it is 1,500 from each student and do a wait and see.

Could be interesting if there is a second wave and all those classes go online in middle of semester would they refund tuition or those students just SOL?

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My mom works for Ford who opened up their plants Monday. They reported people testing positive yesterday and today and closed today. Also Indiana as a whole has opened things up, places are crowded with everyone trying to do things at once. Something tells me Indiana will close up again shortly.

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https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/19/world/americas/19reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-border.html

My county made the New York Times!

Coronavirus may spread in hotels via pillows used by presymptomatic COVID-19 patients
https://www.newsweek.com/presymptomatic-patients-contaminate-covid-hotel-rooms-1505302

North Carolina hospital nurse said patients attending coronavirus parties, intentionally trying to get the virus
https://www.newsweek.com/north-carolina-hospital-nurse-said-patients-attending-coronavirus-parties-intentionally-trying-1505397

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creativerealms posted...

My mom works for Ford who opened up their plants Monday. They reported people testing positive yesterday and today and closed today. Also Indiana as a whole has opened things up, places are crowded with everyone trying to do things at once. Something tells me Indiana will close up again shortly.

I wonder if this will be the norm until a vaccine is out. On/off shutdowns?

LameFAQs posted...

On/off shutdowns?

depends on the health of the community. if see cases go up alot might see restrictions go back into place.

though probably headed back into getting closure eventually. already 4 cases in the past 2 days appearing in clatsop county.
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RIPVyseCity posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/19/world/americas/19reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-border.html

My county made the New York Times!

Mexico is absolutely being slammed. We might see a medium level resurgence of cases across the border states in the U.S. if this keeps going up.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/13/21255012/coronavirus-covid-19-mexico-death-count-cases

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RIPVyseCity posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/19/world/americas/19reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-border.html

My county made the New York Times!

Yay you. I live in Cook county so I am not jealous. I read this in the article which is just beyond the beyond

but Dr. Rafael Abril, president of the Mexicali College of Surgeons, told local news in April that half the IMSS hospital's doctors were infected with COVID-19, which could lead to staffing shortages.

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onedarksoul posted...

Mexico is absolutely being slammed. We might see a medium level resurgence of cases across the border states in the U.S. if this keeps going up.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/13/21255012/coronavirus-covid-19-mexico-death-count-cases

Undersecretary Lord talks about providing coronavirus relief to get DoD plants reopened. Maybe Obrador, AMLO, is waiting for this? Or maybe (surely I am wrong about this one) he decided if the gangs rule the countryside, then the gangs shall handle the pandemic.

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Is that right? Has NY really tested that many people? That's about 1 in every 7.5 NYers tested....

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I tried to slow down following things for a while, but man... we're really going to hit 100k deaths before June

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LameFAQs posted...

I wonder if this will be the norm until a vaccine is out. On/off shutdowns?

Where do you draw the line though? Do you immediately shut back down if you get a case or two? If that happens some places will never be open full time. Is everything fine as long as cases don't exceed what they were at the height of the outbreak, and hospitals can handle it?
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Xenagos posted...

Is the topic title a LOST reference?

Yes.

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LMAO @ Georgia and Florida being ousted as skewing their data to make it look like the infections were decreasing. I called that shit, but then again, who didn't?

Scumbags who skew data and feed the public bullshit, putting them at health risk. Evil little bastards.
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

LMAO @ Georgia and Florida being ousted as skewing their data to make it look like the infections were decreasing. I called that shit, but then again, who didn't?

Scumbags who skew data and feed the public bullshit, putting them at health risk. Evil little bastards.

Where are you seeing this info?

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Tc should put some select users on ignore trolling this topic so they cant enter

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/20/florida-georgia-questioned-over-public-access-to-covid-19-data/
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BowserWowser posted...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Is that right? Has NY really tested that many people? That's about 1 in every 7.5 NYers tested....

Yep. It often doesn't get mentioned in the same sentence as NY having the highest total infections. If every state tested 2.6 million instead of some with 75k-200k tested maybe the numbers would be a bit closer between NY and other states.

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DundiesAward posted...

Yep. It often doesn't get mentioned in the same sentence as NY having the highest total infections. If every state tested 2.6 million instead of some with 75k-200k tested maybe the numbers would be a bit closer between NY and other states.

In terms of percentages? Because NY has the most people in the country and most of them are in one condensed area. That last fact made it easy for the virus to spread quickly. I think numbers in other states would be higher, but not as bad as there.

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Takuya Lee posted...

In terms of percentages? Because NY has the most people in the country and most of them are in one condensed area. That last fact made it easy for the virus to spread quickly. I think numbers in other states would be higher, but not as bad as there.

Also NY waited to close down. Many states, including those on the west coast, didn't wait. That slowed the virus in those areas so even with increased testing, the number of infected wouldn't be anywhere as bad as NY's and NJ's.

I was talking numbers being being closer/higher in other areas not percentages. Obviously we are more educated in here but was just thinking of my friends who just looks at numbers and don't realize certain states/areas test more. Also I'm totally aware of the NY waiting to close and it effects. I live there and posted updates about that state all the time. Was just saying other areas would have higher numbers if they all tested 2.6 million over the same period.

Anyway...Brazil is now #3. 294k total cases out of 735k tests. Compare that to Russia who is #2 with 317k cases with 7.8 million tests. Yikes Brazil is gonna be bad.

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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil is now #3. 294k total cases out of 735k tests. Compare that to Russia who is #2 with 317k cases with 7.8 million tests. Yikes Brazil is gonna be bad.

Yeah... I've understood that hospitals in Sao Paolo are at their limits.

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Brazil coronavirus: Our biggest problem is fake news. President Bolsonaro insists that Covid-19 is only a mild flu.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52739734

Lockdown Delays Cost at Least 36,000 Lives in US
https://www.nytimes.com./2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html


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DundiesAward posted...

I was talking numbers being being closer/higher in other areas not percentages. Obviously we are more educated in here but was just thinking of my friends who just looks at numbers and don't realize certain states/areas test more. Also I'm totally aware of the NY waiting to close and it effects. I live there and posted updates about that state all the time. Was just saying other areas would have higher numbers if they all tested 2.6 million over the same period.

Anyway...Brazil is now #3. 294k total cases out of 735k tests. Compare that to Russia who is #2 with 317k cases with 7.8 million tests. Yikes Brazil is gonna be bad.

Oh ok. Yeah Brazil's getting bad. They somehow found a response that's worse than Trump's. It would be impressive if it didn't people to die needlessly.

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Takuya Lee posted...

They somehow found a response that's worse than Trump's

They literally have South American Trump in charge.
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bigtiggie23 posted...

Where do you draw the line though? Do you immediately shut back down if you get a case or two? If that happens some places will never be open full time. Is everything fine as long as cases don't exceed what they were at the height of the outbreak, and hospitals can handle it?

If states are able to implement expanded testing and contact tracing then we won't need to see on/off lockdowns as often. States are beginning to open now but there still seems to be a lack of necessary testing to really track how the virus is being spread. It doesn't help though that many people have proven to be extremely stubborn so I'm not confident that contact tracing will be as effective here as in other countries.

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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil coronavirus: Our biggest problem is fake news. President Bolsonaro insists that Covid-19 is only a mild flu.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52739734

*the sky is falling *not being sarcastic either**

But experts suggest the figure could be more than three million.
I can categorically say that Brazil has become the most important epicentre for the spread of the Covid-19 virus in the world, Domingos Alves, a professor at the Ribeirao Preto Medical School told BBC News Brasil.

Annnnd we in the USA are going to lose our # one status, a true catastrophe.

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I figured out how Mr. Jair Bolsonaro did it. Brazil has a more centralized government than USA. Defiance to president had to be at the City level. There are many valid censures of our form of state rights but it is working in our favor at the moment.

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CobraGT posted...

*the sky is falling *not being sarcastic either**

But experts suggest the figure could be more than three million.
I can categorically say that Brazil has become the most important epicentre for the spread of the Covid-19 virus in the world, Domingos Alves, a professor at the Ribeirao Preto Medical School told BBC News Brasil.

Annnnd we in the USA are going to lose our # one status, a true catastrophe.

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I figured out how Mr. Jair Bolsonaro did it. Brazil has a more centralized government than USA. Defiance to president had to be at the City level. There are many valid censures of our form of state rights but it is working in our favor at the moment.

Yea Brazil taking #1 in total cases/deaths is possible. But I think #2 seems more likely. We in a different era you can look at what other countries did to flatten their curve. People were debating stuff like universal masks in US just two months ago. Now instead of the experts saying there is no evidence for (insert thing). There are studies coming out about corona. So Brazil has the info now rather taking guess on what should be done.

Those favelas are so densely packed. That if it did take #1 I wouldn't be surprised.

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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil has the info now rather taking guess on what should be done.

problem is their president refusing to use that info

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One in Six Londoners have had Covid-19

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52749186

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CDC now says coronavirus 'does not spread easily' via contaminated surfaces
https://www.fox29.com/news/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-contaminated-surfaces

That is great if true. This is the kind of stuff the CDC should be rushing to get evidence on asap as places reopen. The more info the better.

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DundiesAward posted...

CDC now says coronavirus 'does not spread easily' via contaminated surfaces
https://www.fox29.com/news/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-contaminated-surfaces

That is great if true. This is the kind of stuff the CDC should be rushing to get evidence on asap as places reopen. The more info the better.

if its spread human to human via droplets then its still really a bad idea to fully reopen anything

soulunison2 posted...

if its spread human to human via droplets then its still really a bad idea to fully reopen anything

I agree but I have no control over what the people not in my state/area are doing. Other states have decided to open up and at this point the CDC getting as much info about this out the better. This is major change imo. The previous info was that it could live on surfaces for several days. People were wiping down groceries, not touch delivery boxes for a couple days, and other stuff.

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DundiesAward posted...

CDC now says coronavirus 'does not spread easily' via contaminated surfaces
https://www.fox29.com/news/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-contaminated-surfaces

That is great if true. This is the kind of stuff the CDC should be rushing to get evidence on asap as places reopen. The more info the better.

I hope this doesn't excuse people to returning to slobs and not washing their hands and wiping down handled items.
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Trump just declared churches essential. I have a bad feeling about this.

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Occupy_This posted...

Trump just declared churches essential. I have a bad feeling about this.

Is he trying to eradicate religion?
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Is he trying to eradicate religion?

i wonder too.

Regarding CDC. Here is their blog article. And I think we all have to be careful not to touch our faces and in particular not touch eyes, nose or mouth.

And sombody define easily before you get all happy about this.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

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From CDC blog post "Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggest that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious."

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Note that CDC still says

• Wash your hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are not available, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol.
• Routinely clean and disinfect frequently touched surfaces.

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https://i.imgur.com/JEVT2R7.jpg

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19,969 new cases and 966 new deaths in Brazil

WHO: South America is a new epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/22/south-america-is-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-who-says.html

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DundiesAward posted...

19,969 new cases and 966 new deaths in Brazil

WHO: South America is a new epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/22/south-america-is-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-who-says.html

and people say summer is gonna make the virus weaker

soulunison2 posted...

and people say summer is gonna make the virus weaker

Yea things gonna be bad if we let our guard now.

Also found a more accurate up to date source of Brazil's totals from today.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1263962573499699200

Yikes and this isn't even the peak. Only other country that has had 20k cases 1k confirmed deaths is US.

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Doesn't help that they literally have South American Trump, but with unchecked power.
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