Current Events > Coronavirus 18: Man of Science. Man of Faith.

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It was my understanding that if a virus mutates to become even more contagious, it usually mutates to a less lethal strain as well in order to thrive. I wonder if thats the case here?

6_7__8910 posted...

My county announced a site for antibody testing. Anyone know what the test process is like? Couldnt find the info on google. Is it similar to the nose swab or is it blood work?

Since they fucked up with testing kits they overdid it with anti body tests. They allowed over 100 different products with like 80% or more giving false positives.

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Arizona to reopen barber shops on May 8th and dine-in service at restaurants on May 11th. And apparently people are complaining because that's too long and everything should open up immediately. -_-

umax555 posted...

apparently people are complaining because that's too long and everything should open up immediately. -_-

if we open shit back up too fast. there's going to be problems (even if people are willing to deal with the consequences).
it's going to replay like georgia with full release.
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15 New York City children have been hospitalized with a rare disease that doctors fear is linked to the coronavirus
https://www.businessinsider.com/15-children-ny-hospitalized-with-unknown-disease-linked-covid-19-2020-5

Hand sanitizer is still considered contraband in some prisons around the country
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-prison-hand-sanitizer-contraband-invs/index.html

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DundiesAward posted...

15 New York City children have been hospitalized with a rare disease that doctors fear is linked to the coronavirus
https://www.businessinsider.com/15-children-ny-hospitalized-with-unknown-disease-linked-covid-19-2020-5

Hand sanitizer is still considered contraband in some prisons around the country
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-prison-hand-sanitizer-contraband-invs/index.html

man can that dude who said this might be a blood disease be onto something?

the virus is insane

70,000 dead in in USA in two months. Just the flu! We don't shut down for car accidents! etc and so forth
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My state will allow counties of less than 75k move to the next phases of reopening if we dont have a new case in a 21 day period.

One of the city council members literally suggested to not get tested so the city can open up faster.

Wish I was joking.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

My state will allow counties of less than 75k move to the next phases of reopening if we dont have a new case in a 21 day period.

Y'all gonna be waiting for months then lol

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Years.

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AlephZero posted...

Years.

Yeah this. No county should expect to be coronavirus case free for three weeks straight for a very long time. By putting that caveat in you are saying you're nowhere near ready to open.

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Makeveli_lives posted...

Y'all gonna be waiting for months then lol

Its for the individual county.

Were at day like 14/15 right now with no new cases. Which is why the dumb wants to not test people because itll just restart the clock if someone comes back positive.

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Coronavirus cases are mostly people who self-isolated at home? *confused*

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

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https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1258120464045445120
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The way things are trending, most of us will know someone who has died of coronavirus, regardless of race and ethnicity.
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Antifar posted...

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1258120464045445120

"Do you know someone" may just be determined by better "grapevine" mechanism or by feeling closer ties of community. Two people may get carryout from the same place: one is aware of a loss from covid-19 when the mother of an employee dies, the other either does not hear or is oblivious of ties.

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CobraGT posted...

Coronavirus cases are mostly people who self-isolated at home? *confused*

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

I'm curious what they define as someone who stayed at home. Like does that include people who are working from home but have been going out in public a lot for various reasons?

umax555 posted...

I'm curious what they define as someone who stayed at home. Like does that include people who are working from home but have been going out in public a lot for various reasons?

Here is the link https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

but being as you have more important things to do



Looks like Covid-19 has spread to the communities of the essential workers. I think all of us saw this coming.

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NJ extends social distancing for another 30 days

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Some good news........

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/5f874dbd-7940-31ad-b09e-b6e89c69fd7f/israel-reports-a.html

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Makeveli_lives posted...

Y'all gonna be waiting for months then lol

What if you somehow make it 21 days and things reopen then you get a case on day 22 or 23?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/happy-hypoxia-pulse-oximeter-trnd-wellness/index.html

This is pretty scary... Apparently people are really far gone into the disease but don't actually show symptoms of how bad the lungs are affected until it's too late.

Secretly posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/health/happy-hypoxia-pulse-oximeter-trnd-wellness/index.html

This is pretty scary... Apparently people are really far gone into the disease but don't actually show symptoms of how bad the lungs are affected until it's too late.

Just wow. this article says there is hope

https://www.livescience.com/silent-hypoxia-killing-covid-19-coronavirus-patients.html

and this is Levitan op-ed

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html which I hope you can open

"The concern with this presentation, called "silent hypoxia," is that patients are showing up to the hospital in worse health than they realize. But there might be a way to prevent that, according to a New York Times Op-Ed by emergency department physician Richard Levitan. If sick patients were given oxygen-monitoring devices called pulse oximeters to monitor their symptoms at home, they might be able to seek medical treatment sooner, and ultimately avoid the most invasive treatments."

? Where do I get my pulse oximeter? I am guessing that taking my pulse and counting my breaths will work?


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https://abc7chicago.com/health/mayor-lightfoot-launches-cloth-face-mask-drive-/6119167/

Bless Madam Mayor's little heart. I thought she was blowing the governor off on the mask law.

https://abc7chicago.com/video/embed/?pid=6119927

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may 15th oregon will allow some county's to reopen under stage 1 restrictions.
mask use in public stores/recreational areas will be mandatory soon (costco already has done this).
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CobraGT posted...

? Where do I get my pulse oximeter? I am guessing that taking my pulse and counting my breaths will work?

No, pulse (heart rate) and counting your breaths (respiratory rate) are not the same as oxygen saturation, which is the percent of oxygen in your blood. Pulse oximiters are little devices that you put on your finger that checks both your pulse and oxygen saturation. You can't check your oxygen saturation without one. Pretty sure you can by a pulse oximeter at various stores or order one online.

I'm apparently going back to work on Monday. I'm unsure what I think of it. I mean, on one hand, I only work in an office with three other people. On the other hand, we're attached to a warehouse with probably dozens of people who don't really give a shit about much except getting their paycheck, and those of us in my office regularly have to go out to the warehouse to get rid of our trash and get supplies. Plus, our office has those wall mounted AC (HVAC?) units all over, and if they're pulling in air from the warehouse, that's kinda scary to me.

I have maybe 5-10 masks, but I'm not really sure how they work as far as maintenance; not sure if they can be reused, not sure how to properly clean them without degrading their effectiveness. And masks aren't exactly easy to come by, these days, so... Are 5-10 going to be enough to protect me every (week)day for the next several months/ couple of years?

Up til now, I felt like my state was generally doing okay about shutdowns and stuff, but we're currently reopening stuff, and I just saw something today that the plan is to have stuff like bars, dine in restaurants, and hair salons open within the next couple weeks, too. Granted, I still don't plan on going out to any of those things any time in the near future, myself, but it all makes me very nervous, and I don't trust that people aren't just going to start completely throwing caution to the wind. Yet, there's virtually nothing I can do about any of that.

MRW1215 posted...

have maybe 5-10 masks, but I'm not really sure how they work as far as maintenance; not sure if they can be reused, not sure how to properly clean them without degrading their effectiveness. And masks aren't exactly easy to come by, these days, so... Are 5-10 going to be enough to protect me every (week)day for the next several months/ couple of years?

Buy them at 7-11

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umax555 posted...

No, pulse (heart rate) and counting your breaths (respiratory rate) are not the same as oxygen saturation, which is the percent of oxygen in your blood. Pulse oximiters are little devices that you put on your finger that checks both your pulse and oxygen saturation. You can't check your oxygen saturation without one. Pretty sure you can buy a pulse oximeter at various stores or order one online.

Galaxy phones are able to read it natively, but I'm not sure how accurate they are.

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Just announced that my state is loosening up restrictions a tiny bit this weekend. Basically restaurants can open dining rooms to 50% capacity if they want (they don't have to it's their choice). Also salons and barbers can open again. All businesses still have the right to remain closed if they want to, people can't complain saying they have to be open.
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MRW1215 posted...

I'm apparently going back to work on Monday. I'm unsure what I think of it. I mean, on one hand, I only work in an office with three other people. On the other hand, we're attached to a warehouse with probably dozens of people who don't really give a shit about much except getting their paycheck, and those of us in my office regularly have to go out to the warehouse to get rid of our trash and get supplies.

Welcome to my world, except I never had the luxury of working from home. Regardless, neither the office or warehousemen ever (from what we know) contracted the virus, despite never shutting down once.
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bigtiggie23 posted...

Just announced that my state is loosening up restrictions a tiny bit this weekend. Basically restaurants can open dining rooms to 50% capacity if they want (they don't have to it's their choice). Also salons and barbers can open again. All businesses still have the right to remain closed if they want to, people can't complain saying they have to be open.

Makes sense. We as a state are in a good place overall in terms of the virus, while at the same time keeping places that gather large groups like gyms and the casinos closed for now.

We got really lucky that we didn't get hit harder.

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Welcome to my world, except I never had the luxury of working from home. Regardless, neither the office or warehousemen ever (from what we know) contracted the virus, despite never shutting down once.

I didn't work from home either, my job doesn't really allow for that, so yeah, I've been furloughed for almost two months now.

MRW1215 posted...

I didn't work from home either, my job doesn't really allow for that, so yeah, I've been furloughed for almost two months now.

Oh damn. >_> Well hopefully you all wear masks and gloves. We do temp checks in the morning, but not sure how helpful that is...
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At least 85 kids across U.S. have developed rare, mysterious COVID-19-linked illness.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/least-85-kids-across-u-s-have-developed-rare-mysterious-n1202186

NY Now Requiring Hospitals to Report COVID-Linked Pediatric Illness Cases Immediately
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ny-now-requiring-hospitals-to-report-covid-linked-pediatric-illness-cases-immediately/2405982/

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DundiesAward posted...

At least 85 kids across U.S. have developed rare, mysterious COVID-19-linked illness.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/least-85-kids-across-u-s-have-developed-rare-mysterious-n1202186

NY Now Requiring Hospitals to Report COVID-Linked Pediatric Illness Cases Immediately
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ny-now-requiring-hospitals-to-report-covid-linked-pediatric-illness-cases-immediately/2405982/

The article actually says some of those 85 kids tested negative for COVID so they aren't sure how connected it is.
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bigtiggie23 posted...

The article actually says some of those 85 kids tested negative for COVID so they aren't sure how connected it is.

Remember how antibodies persist longer in older persons and often cannot even be detected in young people who recovered from covid 19? There have been a few posts over the topics.

That there are no antibodies is consistent with their being young and having had covid; particularly as a large number of the kids do have the disease or the antibodies.

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https://youtu.be/Efah9BwGCTs

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A 6 weeks old baby have died from COVID19 in the UK.

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A 9 month baby in Chicago tested positive for Covid-19 and died March 28th 2020. There has been an ongoing investigation and all of the caregivers tested negative. It appears to be a false positive.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-chicago-baby-death-20200418-vm6bsba45rfptpyrcmml4u3nh4-story.html

However livescience says a newborn tested positive for coronavirus.
https://www.livescience.com/newborn-has-coronavirus-london.html

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73 NY Children Sick With Rare COVID-Related Inflammatory Illness, 2 Deaths Confirmed
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/73-ny-children-sick-with-rare-covid-related-illness-state-finds-with-one-death/2408285/


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they're going to have a protest in my town about reopening.... god knows how many people are actively infected going to make it worse right now (18th of may).

even businesses around here are pleading to reopen. have to wait and see what results out of this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErSkx-jQ5M

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Well all the counties around me are going into a yellow phase. Mine is staying red for now...

Anyway, is all this reopening shit a good idea or is it going to end up just making things really fucking worse?

What's been the consensus on this so far?


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NoMeLx22x posted...

Anyway, is all this reopening shit a good idea or is it going to end up just making things really fucking worse?

What's been the consensus on this so far?

Reopening before the scientists suggest is definitely a dumb idea.
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NoMeLx22x posted...

Well all the counties around me are going into a yellow phase. Mine is staying red for now...

Anyway, is all this reopening shit a good idea or is it going to end up just making things really fucking worse?

What's been the consensus on this so far?

It depends on the area and how its done. The way the South has done it is horrible. They never flattened their curve.

I just wish people wouldn't group all the states reopening in the next week or 2 together. They are not all in similar places.

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looks like re-opening ain't going to happen anytime soon:
bornstein seafood had 26 infections instead of the previous 13.
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NoMeLx22x posted...

Well all the counties around me are going into a yellow phase. Mine is staying red for now...

Anyway, is all this reopening shit a good idea or is it going to end up just making things really fucking worse?

What's been the consensus on this so far?

Almost every health expert says it's a horrible idea.

Basically, about a week or so ago, everybody just said fuck it.

The entire thing has been so predictable since it started. We're probably gonna end up in an even longer lockdown eventually because cases are rising pretty much everywhere outside the sane areas like NY and WA. And even they will succumb to the pressure, and since we're all so interconnected, it will affect them as well.

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I am ashamed of Indiana.

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archedsoul posted...

Almost every health expert says it's a horrible idea.

Basically, about a week or so ago, everybody just said fuck it.

The entire thing has been so predictable since it started. We're probably gonna end up in an even longer lockdown eventually because cases are rising pretty much everywhere outside the sane areas like NY and WA. And even they will succumb to the pressure, and since we're all so interconnected, it will affect them as well.

Again, please don't group in all the areas that are reopening together. Some of us do Havre a plan and a flat curve to work off of.

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Takuya Lee posted...

Again, please don't group in all the areas that are reopening together. Some of us do Havre a plan and a flat curve to work off of.

It's the United States of America. Doesn't matter where they're reopening unless travel from in and out of that area is completely stopped.

Since Georgia reopened, they've had like 500k a day coming in every day and we don't know how many are leaving or where they're going.

It's gonna be a mess no matter what.

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