Poll of the Day > Were politics always invasive into all media?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Like Im tired of hearing about wealth, racial, and gender arguments and toxic bro-culture and when looking up awards for board games and fantasy novels.

Or am I just paying more attention now? Its the same politics and arguments no matter what youre into...the only place I havent read about it is oddly in the personal finance space.

Media used to have some standards. The Edward R. Morrows and Walter Cronkites have left behind a bunch of strident kiddies who just parrot the zeitgeist and wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit them.

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Media had standards when it was ruled by establishment and centrist leaning personalities, now it's full of crazy activists, usually far left ones who spread dangerous ideas.
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Were you always invasive into all PotD? Asking for a friend.

I am pretty sure cave patings were the equivalent of vote chemohok for chief

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Pretty much

Nostradamus was basically a political commentator at the time that disguised events as predictions so he wouldnt get in trouble

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Two points:
First:
Art is a reflection of society, politics is a major part of how society function, Art and politics are never far apart.

Second:
The super vast majority of the time when people say they don't like politics in their art they mean they don't want political views they disagree with or find uncomfortable in their art.

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Mead posted...

Pretty much

Nostradamus was basically a political commentator at the time that disguised events as predictions so he wouldnt get in trouble

This is true. His commentary, iirc, was about the hierarchy where he lived, and his writing style was the work-around since said hierarchy would have made his life, or resulting death, a lot worse. A lot of people keep looking at his writings at prophecy, but if anything, that might be indicative of history repeating itself ad nauseum.

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even sonic the hedgehog is political

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SpeeDLeemon posted...

Were you always invasive into all PotD? Asking for a friend.

since 2003

NightMareBunny posted...

even sonic the hedgehog is political

was it? It seemed like it had some green themes, but they werent a major focus of the game.

Entity13 posted...

This is true. His commentary, iirc, was about the hierarchy where he lived, and his writing style was the work-around since said hierarchy would have made his life, or resulting death, a lot worse. A lot of people keep looking at his writings at prophecy, but if anything, that might be indicative of history repeating itself ad nauseum.

Sounds interesting, will have to look into it.

yes

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Certainly not to this extent. Even 20 years ago, the Oscars situation would have been completely unthinkable. Things have just been getting increasingly worse in recent years, largely because nonsense was allowed to gain a foothold.

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dancer62 posted...

Media used to have some standards. The Edward R. Morrows and Walter Cronkites have left behind a bunch of strident kiddies who just parrot the zeitgeist and wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit them.

this poster fucking cracks me up

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blu posted...

since 2003

was it? It seemed like it had some green themes, but they werent a major focus of the game.

Sounds interesting, will have to look into it.

you haven't been here since 2003 lmao

Some of the best games out there are political by nature. A game like Bioshock has class struggle as a major theme in its narrative. I don't think it's a crime to make a game political; the problem is that these ideas should be explored rather than shoved down our throats

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joemodda posted...

Some of the best games out there are political by nature. A game like Bioshock has class struggle as a major theme in its narrative. I don't think it's a crime to make a game political; the problem is that these ideas should be explored rather than shoved down our throats

This is a very fair point.

SpeeDLeemon posted...

you haven't been here since 2003 lmao

Since September 2003, distinctly remember talking about billy Hatcher and the giant egg on release week here...warning people its a great game but way too short to buy at full price. Blu wasnt my first series of accounts, it was my first name backwards, and I had a series of kikko accounts and a couple others based on shadow hearts before getting to blupython...which was around 2016ish I think.

Gamefaqs longer, around when FFX came out I made an account.

you were kikko?????

SpeeDLeemon posted...

you were kikko?????

Yep. When I was 13ish?

Blupython was also made 2012ish, not 2016ish. I goofed when correlating it to school years >_<

blu posted...

Were politics always invasive into all media?

Yes and no. It was always present to some degree, but the Internet Era has certainly ruined pretty much everything.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Yes and no. It was always present to some degree, but the Internet Era has certainly ruined pretty much everything.

It's just made everything much more accessible and apparent. Less behind the scenes. More in your face, 24/7/365.

There was actually no thematic or philosophical presence in media at all until tumblrjws inserted it there in revisionist feminism blogs.

Gay people didn't even exist until Thomas Gay realized he could abuse them for votes in 1987.

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WastelandCowboy posted...

It's just made everything much more accessible and apparent. Less behind the scenes. More in your face, 24/7/365.

It's also damped down the feeling of personal responsibility, empathy, and generally decreased the signal-to-noise ratio by making the noise equally accessible as the signal. Which combines with the "team" mentality politics has taken on in the modern media age, and the increasing ability to gravitate to information sources that agree with your existing prejudices and present information in highly biased form to sort of turn every political discussion into a shitshow.

It's honestly why I dislike political debates or discussions here on GameFAQs. It almost always turns into idiots on both sides parroting back things they've heard but didn't really understand to defend "their side", with pretty much everyone essentially shouting at each other and ignoring everything the other person is saying. No one's political opinions have ever been changed by something a stranger on the Internet told you in a topic on a video game message board. But that's basically what political discourse on the Internet has become in general.

All of that sort of meshes together, and it's why unsubtle political messages in media feel so much more offensive these days then they did when they were integrated into works of entertainment media in the past. In the past, you were really only agreeing or disagreeing with the underlying politics of a work -as presented by someone who is trying to subtly convince you of their position - based on your own assumptions, but now you're effectively having a large chunk of how you define yourself called into question by someone who comes across like an asshole.
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Like half the jrpgs out there are about not overusing the earth's resources. Pretty sure it's always been the case and it's just harder to identify when the issues it was commenting on don't exist any more.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

No one's political opinions have ever been changed by something a stranger on the Internet told you in a topic on a video game message board.

Well, excluding those who wound up going more towards an extreme.

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Yes. You just never noticed or cared.
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I saw a real good quote but I forgot who originally said it.

You do not yearn for a time before art was politicized. You yearn for a time before you were politicized.
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Because people realized media is a valuable asset in a Democratic system and started making money.

It's funny to think the whole thing is just a bunch of people with no other goal but to make small personal gains. Funny to me.

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https://youtu.be/J7ATTjg7tpE

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