Poll of the Day > Covid-19 Growth rates are down to 5%

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AwesomeTurtwig
04/19/20 6:23:17 PM
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It's been dropping pretty steadily, because the number of new cases haven't been growing, mostly slightly downward trending.

So that's good.

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Kyuubi4269
04/19/20 6:24:49 PM
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The advantage of people going out recklessly is that you reak peak deaths early.
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Lokarin
04/19/20 7:10:28 PM
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Does that mean a doubling every 20 days?... or what

Ifso, then that's tremendously good and under the mendoza line of 1.055 new cases per day

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AwesomeTurtwig
04/19/20 7:36:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Does that mean a doubling every 20 days?... or what

Ifso, then that's tremendously good and under the mendoza line of 1.055 new cases per day
No at 5% it would double in less than 20 days since it compounds if it stayed at 5%. But it's been dropping.

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Lokarin
04/19/20 7:43:14 PM
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Either way, 5% is about a third of the danger rate... so if things stay like this for 2 more weeks we can consider the disease beaten.

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papercup
04/19/20 7:43:57 PM
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But isn't the daily positive rate still near 20%, so doesn't that tell us we should be testing more than we are?

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shadowsword87
04/19/20 7:45:01 PM
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papercup posted...
But isn't the daily positive rate still near 20%, so doesn't that tell us we should be testing more than we are?

I'm going to be honest, I have no idea what that number means and, likely, neither do you.

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papercup
04/19/20 7:54:45 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
I'm going to be honest, I have no idea what that number means and, likely, neither do you.

All it means is 1 in 5 tested every day is positive, but that number is consistent, so it's still spreading.

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Mead
04/19/20 7:56:44 PM
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We have no idea what the numbers actually are because most of the country still isnt doing tests for the virus

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shadowsword87
04/19/20 7:57:27 PM
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Yeah we know that it's spreading from just the positive tests.
What it doesn't tell me if there should be an increased production or not. Are doctors asking for the test with everyone with a cough, pneumonia, or just every person who walks by? Would increasing the number of tests available help out? Is that even an issue? What is the ideal percentage of positive rates?

That's what I don't know.

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Judgmenl
04/19/20 7:58:15 PM
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Yet the numbers here in Masscahusetts keep on going up.

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AwesomeTurtwig
04/19/20 8:07:49 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Yet the numbers here in Masscahusetts keep on going up.
Well 5% isn't 0%. Also 5% is US total. MA is 8%.

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Judgmenl
04/19/20 8:09:36 PM
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It's also a weekend.
We have seen lower number of cases every weekend thus far.
And the moment people start going back to work it's just going to get worse.

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blu
04/19/20 8:16:24 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Does that mean a doubling every 20 days?... or what

Ifso, then that's tremendously good and under the mendoza line of 1.055 new cases per day


A rough/quick way of estimating doubling periods is rule of 72. A 5% daily increase would mean a doubling rate of 14.4 days.
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zebatov
04/19/20 8:20:24 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The advantage of people going out recklessly is that you reak peak deaths early.
Except something like fifteen times more people died in the second wave of the Spanish flu. These arent peak. Peak happens when you think its safe.

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Lokarin
04/19/20 9:04:34 PM
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blu posted...
A rough/quick way of estimating doubling periods is rule of 72. A 5% daily increase would mean a doubling rate of 14.4 days.

Ok, so still not under the 1.055 goal, but pretty close

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FrozenBananas
04/19/20 10:11:19 PM
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AwesomeTurtwig posted...
It's been dropping pretty steadily, because the number of new cases haven't been growing, mostly slightly downward trending.

So that's good.

I dont mean to be a jerk, but this might be because the US has stopped drive-thru testing, which clearly will make the numbers drop.

that's not to say the other countries havent been lying about their numbers as well. Because they clearly have *cough cough* China *cough cough*


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FrozenBananas
04/19/20 10:12:37 PM
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papercup posted...
All it means is 1 in 5 tested every day is positive, but that number is consistent, so it's still spreading.

2 weeks ago they were saying 30% of the negative test results were actually false negatives. The numbers dont mean shit

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Monopoman
04/19/20 10:30:06 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Yeah we know that it's spreading from just the positive tests.
What it doesn't tell me if there should be an increased production or not. Are doctors asking for the test with everyone with a cough, pneumonia, or just every person who walks by? Would increasing the number of tests available help out? Is that even an issue? What is the ideal percentage of positive rates?

That's what I don't know.

From what I hear from my relative that is a nurse at a clinic, people can't request a test unless they are showing potential symptoms. There is not enough tests to let everyone that wants a test get one.

Now I have no clue about testing stations put up to give out tests though, there you may be able to get a test no matter what.
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AwesomeTurtwig
04/19/20 10:51:48 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
I dont mean to be a jerk, but this might be because the US has stopped drive-thru testing, which clearly will make the numbers drop.

that's not to say the other countries havent been lying about their numbers as well. Because they clearly have *cough cough* China *cough cough*
That's a valid point, but I think someone needs to define how much testing is satisfactory. Like everyone says "we need to test more," which more testing is good. But no one is saying "well how much testing is enough?" The US has more testing done then UK, France, and a few other leading testing countries combined. Should we keep testing? Yes. But when do we stop or slow it down?

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AwesomeTurtwig
04/19/20 10:52:42 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
2 weeks ago they were saying 30% of the negative test results were actually false negatives. The numbers dont mean shit
If you don't trust any numbers, why even test?

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FrozenBananas
04/19/20 10:59:57 PM
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AwesomeTurtwig posted...
If you don't trust any numbers, why even test?

In not the one testing. Even the president wants to stop funding testing because 1. Its coming back with terribly inconsistent results, and 2. He hates the fact that its raising the US numbers, while every other country is covering up their own numbers. So he says fuck it

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Monopoman
04/19/20 11:16:56 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
In not the one testing. Even the president wants to stop funding testing because 1. Its coming back with terribly inconsistent results, and 2. He hates the fact that its raising the US numbers, while every other country is covering up their own numbers. So he says fuck it

Trumps #1 goal in life is to make himself look like he is doing the best thing possible at all times, and making sure he gets blamed for nothing.
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AwesomeTurtwig
04/20/20 12:22:06 AM
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Also I don't know why you are putting "president" in quotes. He is in fact the president.

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shadowsword87
04/20/20 1:20:01 AM
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Monopoman posted...
From what I hear from my relative that is a nurse at a clinic, people can't request a test unless they are showing potential symptoms. There is not enough tests to let everyone that wants a test get one.

Now I have no clue about testing stations put up to give out tests though, there you may be able to get a test no matter what.

I mean, that's also standard operating procedure.
There's hypochondriacs who I'm willing to bet are freaking out right now, and people who are becoming hypochondriacs.

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JixHedgehog
04/20/20 1:27:30 AM
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Hawaii here I come

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captpackrat
04/20/20 12:31:10 PM
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It's accelerating here in Nebraska.



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