Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 497 - RIP, Howard Finkel

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/20 10:44:05 AM
#301:


Another point I saw somebody make about the Owen Hart situation is that the release clip they used on him, a human being, was far less heavy duty than the release clip they use for Money in the Bank.

It was meant to only hold 6 pounds of pressure and Martha shows the clip in the show and it's the most appalling thing. They were going to test it with somebody else but Owen said no and that he didn't want to be responsible for someone else's safety.

Owen Hart was somehow the only person who gave a shit about someone else's safety in this entire situation.

Listening to Jim Ross talk about it is just haunting and seeing Jim Cornette close to sobbing when he comes to realize how at fault Vince and WWE was and how much Owen's family lost is just rough.

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 12:24:37 PM
#302:


What's crazy is that none of this is really new info, it was mostly told in a 2002 book by Martha.

And yet, Bret still went back to work for the WWE.

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FFDragon
05/20/20 12:50:46 PM
#303:


In the immortal words of Shane McMahon's theme song:

Ching ching, bling bling, cut the chatter
You ain't talking money, then your talking don't matter
Ching ching, bling bling, pattin' pockets
You make the dolla dolla, can't a damn soul stop it

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Tom Bombadil
05/20/20 12:58:11 PM
#304:


the milion dollar man who should be a billion dollar man

ALWAYS gets his way

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 12:59:43 PM
#305:


I mean if it was just about money, couldn't he have just got in on that wrongful death lawsuit?

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GTM
05/20/20 1:00:50 PM
#306:


RIP shad

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/20 1:16:10 PM
#307:


TheRock1525 posted...
What's crazy is that none of this is really new info, it was mostly told in a 2002 book by Martha.

And yet, Bret still went back to work for the WWE.
Because you had WWE create propaganda about how CRAZY Martha is and what a freak accident it was that this happened to Owen, and that she's just angry, petty, and vengeful, and that we're just trying to be the good guys trying to honor the man but she's so CRAZY and hates wrestling so much that she refuses to let him in! Gosh, she didn't even care what ACTUALLY happened, mind you. She just makes up stuff about what happened! Even her FAMILY hates her, you know!

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HashtagSEP
05/20/20 1:33:41 PM
#308:


To be fair, the feuds with Bret and atleast one of the sisters are still ongoing, so the "family hates her" stuff isn't false, maybe just overblown. And maybe not even overblown, according to Bret.

It is true that Martha and I were close at one time. I was right by her side after Owens death until she received her settlement from WWE and proclaimed me a pest. Martha later declared herself and her children Harts in name only, called us all black sheep, and ceased contact with the rest of the Hart family. She further isolated from us when we all came together in 2010 to honour our father Stu being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame and participated in a DVD that celebrated our family (Hart & Soul). Owens children do not have a relationship with his brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, and cousins. One of my nieces, in fact, named her son Owen after him. I do not know Oje and I wouldnt know Athena if she walked passed me on the street. Owens children only know of their fathers family by what is told by their mother, whatever that may be, painting us all with one broad brush. To block Owens children from knowing their fathers family, to me, is cruel, reckless, and irresponsible.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/20 2:00:23 PM
#309:


Bret Hart also claims that he was the first member of the Hart Family to have Owen's costume he wore when he died after it was sent to WWE Canada, even though it went from police custody straight to Martha.

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HashtagSEP
05/20/20 2:06:23 PM
#310:


Sure, but Bret isn't the only one that has spoken out against her.

Not saying that invalidates anything at all. Just saying "the family hates her" isn't something WWE fabricated.

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 3:40:53 PM
#311:


From what I understand, the worst offenders were Davey Boy Smith's wife and Jim's Wife/Natalya's mom.

Basically Owen's death pretty much decimated their family.

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Eddv
05/20/20 4:12:01 PM
#312:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
On top of everything that occurred in Owen's tragedy, Martha also rips WWE for not having an actual building for their Hall of Fame.

Scott Steiner somewhere is extremely pleased.


It's sort of a well taken point?

It's not like there is an actual hall where people can go and honor her husband.

It's just a move they want to make to sell a few tickets to Mania weekend from Owens fans.

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ZeroSignal620
05/20/20 4:21:25 PM
#313:


Eddv posted...
It's not like there is an actual hall where people can go and honor her husband.

It's just a move they want to make to sell a few tickets to Mania weekend from Owen's fans.

You're not wrong. And until Vince decides to build an actual hall of fame building, that's all it'll be.


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Maniac64
05/20/20 5:25:45 PM
#314:


And you know WWE will be sure to include how he died in an unforseeable and tragic accident

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 6:26:23 PM
#315:


There is a good chance Dark Side of the Ring will have a bigger audience in the key demo than NXT tonight. It drew a .18.

More younger people want to watch how shitty WWE is than watch the only decent WWE product left.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/20/20 6:44:58 PM
#316:


Or maybe more people don't want to watch and support any part of WWE because of how shitty they are.

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 6:45:38 PM
#317:


That is basically what I said, yes.

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Strife2
05/20/20 7:14:21 PM
#318:


I heard NWA got back running again. Hope I can get back into it.

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05/20/20 7:59:04 PM
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Strife2
05/20/20 8:11:19 PM
#320:


Poor Joe, being force fed that line of piss.

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 9:58:50 PM
#321:


So apparently Fenix took a nasty bump doing an over the top rope move where no one really caught him.

Hope he's okay.

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Whiskey_Nick
05/20/20 9:59:28 PM
#322:


AEW is doing a stadium show on Saturday

also Hangman's return was hilarious

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TheRock1525
05/20/20 10:12:44 PM
#323:


Everything Hangman does is hilarious.

He's the best part of AEW.

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not__shawn__z
05/20/20 11:55:45 PM
#324:


TheRock1525 posted...
He's the best part of AEW.

Jericho is on AEW. I should mark your post for fake news.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/21/20 12:08:56 AM
#325:


God, Batista talking about Shad slayed me. Not because he knew him incredibly well, but just... everyone who knew him even a little bit has some kind of story about him being an honest, good person.

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Maniac64
05/21/20 12:55:39 PM
#326:


TheRock1525 posted...
So apparently Fenix took a nasty bump doing an over the top rope move where no one really caught him.

Hope he's okay.
Yeah he landed straight on his back on the outside floor. His jump was short and no one reacted fast enough to get under him. He was able to walk away at least but he was definitely hurting.

Britt Baker also was getting her knee looked at and then was noy part of the rest of her tag match. Could be storyline but didnt seem like it to me.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/21/20 2:07:53 PM
#327:


I hope they're both alright, but if I had to guess Britt may have a serious injury based on the fact that it appears to be her knee and there was an issue with Kris Statlander lifting her up for her move before due to needing to grab her knee.

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TheRock1525
05/21/20 5:10:48 PM
#328:


TheRock1525 posted...
There is a good chance Dark Side of the Ring will have a bigger audience in the key demo than NXT tonight. It drew a .18.

More younger people want to watch how shitty WWE is than watch the only decent WWE product left.
NXT drew a .13 in the key demo.

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Eddv
05/21/20 5:14:47 PM
#329:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I hope they're both alright, but if I had to guess Britt may have a serious injury based on the fact that it appears to be her knee and there was an issue with Kris Statlander lifting her up for her move before due to needing to grab her knee.

The Nyla Rose spot was slightly botched - her weight looked like it got away from Statlander and Shida and Nyla went off target and landed squarely on Britt's knee.

Fenix, I am certain is fine. He's taken stupider bumps and been fine.

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FFDragon
05/21/20 6:01:05 PM
#330:


It's always the non-stupid injuries that are the worst.

Remember Kevin Nash's quad?

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Maniac64
05/21/20 8:06:19 PM
#331:


Eddv posted...
The Nyla Rose spot was slightly botched - her weight looked like it got away from Statlander and Shida and Nyla went off target and landed squarely on Britt's knee.

Fenix, I am certain is fine. He's taken stupider bumps and been fine.
Yeah that looked real painful but based on how soon he could get up and walk I'm hopeful.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/22/20 11:31:56 AM
#332:


I guess Matt Jackson got hurt at AEW too. But it seems like he and Fenix will be fine for the PPV.

Britt Baker may have a torn ACL. They're awaiting MRI results.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/22/20 9:58:19 PM
#333:


Britt Baker is out of AEW PPV tomorrow, replaced by Penelope Ford.

They're going to address her injury tomorrow, but I feel like if they're waiting to address it, then it might not be too bad.

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TheRock1525
05/22/20 9:59:27 PM
#334:


Hopefully good news.

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TheRock1525
05/22/20 11:02:36 PM
#335:


Charlotte Flair interfered in the main event of NXT between Io Shirai and Rhea Ripley.
Charlotte Flair wrestled Bayley tonight in a Champion vs. Champion match.
Charlotte Flair will wrestle Nia Jax and Natalya in match for the number one contender match for the RAW Women's title.
Charlotte Flair will wrestle Rhea Ripley and Io Shirai for the NXT Women's Championship.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/22/20 11:10:11 PM
#336:


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TheRock1525
05/22/20 11:11:56 PM
#337:


Charlotte must have agreed to have her tubes tied.

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ZeroSignal620
05/22/20 11:58:03 PM
#338:


TheRock1525 posted...
Charlotte Flair wrestled Bayley tonight in a Champion vs. Champion match.

Was hoping for a Charlotte win, but Bayley remains The Man!

Updated Backlash card
McIntyre vs Lashley for WWE title
Strowman vs Miz/Morrison for Universal title
Edge vs Orton
Asuka vs Charlotte, Nia, or Natalya for the Raw Women's title

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paulg235
05/23/20 12:49:32 AM
#339:


Alright, could someone explain what happened to Hana Kimura? She reportedly passed away at just 22 years old and I'm seeing a lot of stuff about not using online platforms to treat someone like shit in regards to her death.

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NBIceman
05/23/20 1:03:12 AM
#340:


Long story short, she was on a Japanese "reality" TV series called Terrace House and was being bullied to an absolute ludicrous degree by fans of the show in response to something that happened between her and another participant.

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TheRock1525
05/23/20 12:52:10 PM
#341:


Recently released Kurt Angle is going to ref a match in NXT.

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Tom Bombadil
05/23/20 1:10:32 PM
#342:


paulg235 posted...
She reportedly passed away at just 22 years old

wait last I heard she was doing okay

but yeah she was getting cyberbullied and stuff a bunch I guess

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Dr_Football
05/23/20 5:42:57 PM
#343:


i saw Braun vs Miz/Morrison for the universal title at backlash was announced.

has anyone made the prediction that Braun will beat them down and Otis will cash in on the tag titles yet

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TheRock1525
05/23/20 6:05:45 PM
#344:


They aren't the tag champions. The New Day are.

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FFDragon
05/23/20 6:13:57 PM
#345:


I love how to this day Kofi is the coatrack for unused titles.

Even his WWE Championship run was pretty coatracky.

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Dr_Football
05/23/20 6:22:47 PM
#346:


i forgot about the 2nd triple threat match lol

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ZeroSignal620
05/23/20 7:02:01 PM
#347:


Predictions on the rest of Backlash's card?

I'm going with...
Street Profits vs Viking Raiders (Raw tag titles)
Bliss/Cross vs IIconics for Women's Tag Titles
Seth Rollins vs Aleister Black (Or Rollins/Theory vs Rey/Black)
The IC finals. Going with Jeff Hardy vs AJ Styles for a guess
Otis vs Ziggler again because that feud will never stop
Corbin vs Elias after Corbin screws him out of the IC tournament

Edit: Oh and Andrade vs Crews for US title

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TheRock1525
05/23/20 7:03:50 PM
#348:


Isn't Double or Nothing tonight? I can't remember.

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ZeroSignal620
05/23/20 7:09:40 PM
#349:


Yeah it's tonight

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TheRock1525
05/23/20 7:32:47 PM
#350:


While I'm sure it'll be fine, I can't help but think about how huge last year's DoN felt.

Empty arena wrestling really does suck.

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