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averagejoel 04/06/20 12:28:07 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yts2F44RqFw like the rest of the series, it's a good watch. also like the rest of the series, I recognize the behaviour described from a lot of people on here: -a refusal to think about things as systemic issues -treating systemic problems as though they are immutable facts of life that have always existed and always will exist, despite evidence to the contrary --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936885613] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yts2F44RqFw like the rest of the series, it's a good watch. also like the rest of the series, I recognize the behaviour described from a lot of people on here: -a refusal to think about things as systemic issues -treating systemic problems as though they are immutable facts of life that have always existed and always will exist, despite evidence to the contrary </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 04/06/20 12:50:31 PM #3:	DuranOfForcena posted... is Garfield alt-right then or you could have just said that you didn't watch the video --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936886934] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>is Garfield alt-right then or</quote>you could have just said that you didn't watch the video </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R1masher 04/06/20 12:52:30 PM #5:	I didnt watch the video, whats this about Garfield being a racist? --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:936887050] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I didnt watch the video, whats this about Garfield being a racist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 04/06/20 12:54:01 PM #6:	DuranOfForcena posted... is Garfield alt-right then or Obviously, he keeps trying to deport Nermal back to Abu Dhabi in the cartoon. Racist cat! --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:936887138] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted... </cite> <quote>is Garfield alt-right then or</quote>Obviously, he keeps trying to deport Nermal back to Abu Dhabi in the cartoon. Racist cat! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 04/06/20 12:55:57 PM #7:	does the video include the part where all bernie supporters who don't participate in warned generals are actually closeted trump supporters? oh and dedicating time to criticize trump's policies and how he's endangering lives and link to videos from liberal pundits no one on the right has ever heard of? or is that covered in the later chapters --- sig <cite>645AR posted [p:936887242] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>does the video include the part where all bernie supporters who don't participate in warned generals are actually closeted trump supporters? oh and dedicating time to criticize trump's policies and how he's endangering lives and link to videos from liberal pundits no one on the right has ever heard of? or is that covered in the later chapters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AtelierRyza462X 04/06/20 12:57:41 PM #8:	Its alt-right to hate mondays now? <cite>AtelierRyza462X posted [p:936887345] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Its alt-right to hate mondays now? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 12:58:14 PM #9:	R1masher posted... I didnt watch the video, whats this about Garfield being a racist? no clue. nothing to do with the video --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936887374] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite> <quote>I didnt watch the video, whats this about Garfield being a racist?</quote>no clue. nothing to do with the video </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 04/06/20 12:58:50 PM #11:	averagejoel posted... despite evidence to the contrary Can't watch the video at work, but what evidence is there? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:936887407] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>despite evidence to the contrary</quote> Can't watch the video at work, but what evidence is there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 04/06/20 1:00:40 PM #12:	If anything Garfield is a regressive leftist. Hes unemployed and feels entitled to the world for existing and doesnt care where the lasagna comes from as long as it comes. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://imgur.com/nhHkg9L <cite>Middle hope posted [p:936887500] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>If anything Garfield is a regressive leftist. Hes unemployed and feels entitled to the world for existing and doesnt care where the lasagna comes from as long as it comes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kayoticdreamz 04/06/20 1:01:45 PM #13:	I've seen this guy, as is usually the case with lefties trying to debunk the the right wing, they miss the point. But I don't care enough to go into detail here. averagejoel posted... you could have just said that you didn't watch the video I mean Garfield does hate mondays so....Dont make a video titled "I hate mondays" and not expect a Garfield joke or 3 Master_Bass posted... Obviously, he keeps trying to deport Nermal back to Abu Dhabi in the cartoon. Racist cat! lmao <cite>kayoticdreamz posted [p:936887571] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I've seen this guy, as is usually the case with lefties trying to debunk the the right wing, they miss the point. But I don't care enough to go into detail here. averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> you could have just said that you didn't watch the video </quote> I mean Garfield does hate mondays so....Dont make a video titled "I hate mondays" and not expect a Garfield joke or 3 Master_Bass posted...</cite> <quote> Obviously, he keeps trying to deport Nermal back to Abu Dhabi in the cartoon. Racist cat! </quote> lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/06/20 1:01:57 PM #14:	I'm 2:20 in and this set up is excruciating --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936887580] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I'm 2:20 in and this set up is excruciating </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Resaix 04/06/20 1:02:40 PM #15:	Middle hope posted... If anything Garfield is a regressive leftist. Hes unemployed and feels entitled to the world for existing and doesnt care where the lasagna comes from as long as it comes. How is that a leftist notion? Red states require most aid after all. I don't think entitled laziness is a party trait. <cite>Resaix posted [p:936887622] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>If anything Garfield is a regressive leftist. Hes unemployed and feels entitled to the world for existing and doesnt care where the lasagna comes from as long as it comes.</quote>How is that a leftist notion? Red states require most aid after all. I don't think entitled laziness is a party trait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 04/06/20 1:03:44 PM #16:	That's a school shooter, btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(San_Diego) --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:936887691] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>That's a school shooter, btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_(San_Diego) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Romulox28 04/06/20 1:03:57 PM #17:	watched 8 min of the video before i had to shut it off to sit on a call, he makes some good points (big one to me is as you said, how people treat bad things as immutable facts of life & not problems to change). however i think this guy falls into the same trap a lot of "extremely online" people do, ultimately hes arguing with himself and his perception of how other ppl think. you see this right off the bat with that weird skit he does about the office breakroom, it's like the guy has never been in a real-life conversation before --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:936887708] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>watched 8 min of the video before i had to shut it off to sit on a call, he makes some good points (big one to me is as you said, how people treat bad things as immutable facts of life & not problems to change). however i think this guy falls into the same trap a lot of "extremely online" people do, ultimately hes arguing with himself and his perception of how other ppl think. you see this right off the bat with that weird skit he does about the office breakroom, it's like the guy has never been in a real-life conversation before </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook20 04/06/20 1:05:06 PM #18:	I hate mondays but love strawmen. Also his abortion argument in his office skit is exactly the line of thinking he immediately refutes shortly afterwards. --- http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/098/7/4/tom_nook_by_themerce-d3dhi0q.png http://www.gameswagonline.com/uploads/9/0/8/9/9089979/1372277527.jpg <cite>TomNook20 posted [p:936887777] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I hate mondays but love strawmen. Also his abortion argument in his office skit is exactly the line of thinking he immediately refutes shortly afterwards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 04/06/20 1:07:39 PM #19:	I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:936887928] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 1:08:13 PM #20:	AtelierRyza462X posted... Its alt-right to hate mondays now? nothing to do with the video --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936887962] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>AtelierRyza462X posted... </cite> <quote>Its alt-right to hate mondays now?</quote>nothing to do with the video </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 04/06/20 1:08:17 PM #21:	Say, for the sake of argument, its also Splut Week, and Nermal escaped from Abu Dhabi. Balrog0 posted... I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant Most leftists who are against gun control, are against gun control because they want the populace to be able to defend itself against the state, but that doesn't mean that the problem of gun violence isn't objectively softened by gun control. He's attacking conservative positions from a purely (attempted) objective stance, not merely ideological. --- Remember that during the crisis, the heroes were not politicians, CEOs or billionaires, but doctors, janitors, and service workers. Now, who is disposable? <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:936887966] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Say, for the sake of argument, its also Splut Week, and Nermal escaped from Abu Dhabi. Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant</quote>Most leftists who are against gun control, are against gun control because they want the populace to be able to defend itself against the state, but that doesn't mean that the problem of gun violence isn't objectively softened by gun control. He's attacking conservative positions from a purely (attempted) objective stance, not merely ideological. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 1:16:02 PM #22:	Squall28 posted... Can't watch the video at work, but what evidence is there? depends on the specific issue in question. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936888425] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Can't watch the video at work, but what evidence is there?</quote>depends on the specific issue in question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 04/06/20 1:21:45 PM #23:	Oh man I'm looking forward to this The Alt Right playbook is one of the best series of videos on youtube --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:936888732] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Oh man I'm looking forward to this The Alt Right playbook is one of the best series of videos on youtube</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 1:23:24 PM #24:	Romulox28 posted... however i think this guy falls into the same trap a lot of "extremely online" people do, ultimately hes arguing with himself and his perception of how other ppl think. you see this right off the bat with that weird skit he does about the office breakroom, it's like the guy has never been in a real-life conversation before the thing at the start is kinda contrived, yes. but it wasn't intended to be a realistic portrayal of a monday-morning office conversation. it was only to set up the analogy -- though he definitely could have done it in a shorter amount of time. I don't think he's really arguing though -- he's educating, and the things he's saying seem to be true, at least anecdotally. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936888824] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Romulox28 posted... </cite> <quote>however i think this guy falls into the same trap a lot of "extremely online" people do, ultimately hes arguing with himself and his perception of how other ppl think. you see this right off the bat with that weird skit he does about the office breakroom, it's like the guy has never been in a real-life conversation before</quote>the thing at the start is kinda contrived, yes. but it wasn't intended to be a realistic portrayal of a monday-morning office conversation. it was only to set up the analogy -- though he definitely could have done it in a shorter amount of time. I don't think he's really arguing though -- he's educating, and the things he's saying seem to be true, at least anecdotally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 1:24:34 PM #25:	TomNook20 posted... I hate mondays but love strawmen. Also his abortion argument in his office skit is exactly the line of thinking he immediately refutes shortly afterwards. the key difference is that the abortion argument is also supported by the numbers. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936888902] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>TomNook20 posted... </cite> <quote>I hate mondays but love strawmen. Also his abortion argument in his office skit is exactly the line of thinking he immediately refutes shortly afterwards.</quote>the key difference is that the abortion argument is also supported by the numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 1:31:18 PM #26:	Balrog0 posted... I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant yeah that's fair -- there are lots of other issues he could have used to illustrate the same point, and gun control is... definitely a point of contention among leftists. I think the other person addressed it pretty well though -- the problem of gun violence is addressed by stricter gun control, and he's not attacking conservative talking points from an ideological perspective --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936889284] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>I find the repeated emphasis on gun control specifically kind of interesting for this kind of thing, given it splits the left at best (most leftists I know are very anti-gun control, but I admit that could be anecdotal). Maybe its just because of who posted it but I expected a less liberal slant</quote>yeah that's fair -- there are lots of other issues he could have used to illustrate the same point, and gun control is... definitely a point of contention among leftists. I think the other person addressed it pretty well though -- the problem of gun violence is addressed by stricter gun control, and he's not attacking conservative talking points from an ideological perspective </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 04/06/20 10:52:52 PM #27:	Finally got around to watching the video and had to stop at 2 minutes. This is fucking awful. Putting words in people's mouths and making up this stupid office scenario doesn't do anything. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:936921165] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Finally got around to watching the video and had to stop at 2 minutes. This is fucking awful. Putting words in people's mouths and making up this stupid office scenario doesn't do anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/06/20 11:04:14 PM #28:	Squall28 posted... Finally got around to watching the video and had to stop at 2 minutes. This is fucking awful. Putting words in people's mouths and making up this stupid office scenario doesn't do anything. this is unsurprising coming from you --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:936921754] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Finally got around to watching the video and had to stop at 2 minutes. This is fucking awful. Putting words in people's mouths and making up this stupid office scenario doesn't do anything.</quote>this is unsurprising coming from you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 04/07/20 12:05:30 AM #29:	averagejoel posted... this is unsurprising coming from you --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:936924508] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote> this is unsurprising coming from you </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 04/07/20 12:11:06 AM #30:	This guys videos are really good overviews of conservative political discourse just as an examination from a logic standpoint. He nails the atmosphere of political discussion at work --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:936924767] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>This guys videos are really good overviews of conservative political discourse just as an examination from a logic standpoint. He nails the atmosphere of political discussion at work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/08/20 11:56:01 AM #31:	more people should watch this --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:937007177] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>more people should watch this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 04/08/20 12:25:06 PM #32:	just seemed like a video stuffed with as many fallacies as possible <cite>knutjob posted [p:937008967] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>just seemed like a video stuffed with as many fallacies as possible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/08/20 12:32:58 PM #33:	I saw it earlier. Not his best video imo but he does hit the nail on the head with this idea that systems are laws of nature rather than man made --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:937009473] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I saw it earlier. Not his best video imo but he does hit the nail on the head with this idea that systems are laws of nature rather than man made </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 04/08/20 1:02:22 PM #35:	scar the 1 posted... I saw it earlier. Not his best video imo but he does hit the nail on the head with this idea that systems are laws of nature rather than man made Agreed. Its a pretty illuminating look at the conservative mindset, compared to a...um, more capable of critical thinking mindset? And certainly makes me want to think about my own worldview. --- Remember that during the crisis, the heroes were not politicians, CEOs or billionaires, but doctors, janitors, and service workers. Now, who is disposable? <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:937011307] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I saw it earlier. Not his best video imo but he does hit the nail on the head with this idea that systems are laws of nature rather than man made</quote>Agreed. Its a pretty illuminating look at the conservative mindset, compared to a...um, more capable of critical thinking mindset? And certainly makes me want to think about my own worldview. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 04/08/20 1:03:37 PM #36:	knutjob posted... just seemed like a video stuffed with as many fallacies as possible you should consider engaging with the ideas presented in the video instead of dismissing them like this --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:937011363] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted... </cite> <quote>just seemed like a video stuffed with as many fallacies as possible</quote>you should consider engaging with the ideas presented in the video instead of dismissing them like this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/08/20 1:24:27 PM #37:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Agreed. Its a pretty illuminating look at the conservative mindset, compared to a...um, more capable of critical thinking mindset? And certainly makes me want to think about my own worldview. While in this series all the ideas and strategies are presented as alt-right/conservative, I'm not sure they're all exclusively that. So yeah I think in a broader sense it's interesting just that he puts words on these tropes --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:937012618] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite> <quote>Agreed. Its a pretty illuminating look at the conservative mindset, compared to a...um, more capable of critical thinking mindset? And certainly makes me want to think about my own worldview.</quote>While in this series all the ideas and strategies are presented as alt-right/conservative, I'm not sure they're all exclusively that. So yeah I think in a broader sense it's interesting just that he puts words on these tropes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 04/08/20 1:33:24 PM #38:	Really should have done a Garfield joke, though. I guess Guy From Payroll's fuzzy face is kinda Garfield-esque, but he's not eating lasagna. --- Remember that during the crisis, the heroes were not politicians, CEOs or billionaires, but doctors, janitors, and service workers. Now, who is disposable? <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:937013152] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Really should have done a Garfield joke, though. I guess Guy From Payroll's fuzzy face is kinda Garfield-esque, but he's not eating lasagna. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 04/08/20 1:44:09 PM #39:	I actually like Mondays. Not particularly related to the video, but I find "new guy" to be equally annoying for activating payroll guy as I do payroll guy, but maybe that's an internal sort of resignation to the existence of payroll guy. It felt like there were really two theses mashed together here: There's the conversation about punishment over prevention (and the extensions of that) and there's the original idea of these issues being like Mondays. The idea of a Christian Atheist was interesting to me, since this is what I've often seen in CE (and other very online) conservatives. I'm going to watch some of the other videos in this series. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:937013822] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>I actually like Mondays.Not particularly related to the video, but I find "new guy" to be equally annoying for activating payroll guy as I do payroll guy, but maybe that's an internal sort of resignation to the existence of payroll guy.It felt like there were really two theses mashed together here: There's the conversation about punishment over prevention (and the extensions of that) and there's the original idea of these issues being like Mondays. The idea of a Christian Atheist was interesting to me, since this is what I've often seen in CE (and other very online) conservatives. I'm going to watch some of the other videos in this series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/08/20 4:00:44 PM #40:	Anteaterking posted... I actually like Mondays. Tagged as literal psychopath --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:937022060] in The Alt-Ri... [t:78549490]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>I actually like Mondays.</quote>Tagged as literal psychopath </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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