Current Events > Trump: Shutdowns going on until April 30

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Trump just said we have models now that predicted 2.2 million people would die if we didn't do social distancing

... These models have existed for weeks...

Oh boy, Trump the psychologist

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It's just the flu, bro!

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Forest_Temple posted...

It's too fucking far

Sure if you're Garland from FFIX and want lots of people to die

But to normal people it's way too soon
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There's a reason why Trump is speaking Mon-Fri after 3PM and saying the wildest stuff on Saturday and Sunday it's because there's a direct correlation between the stock market diving when he opens his mouth. His team saw that and is delaying all of his TV appearances for this reason.

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Oh shit, shutdowns through April?! Vote this man out! I was promised Easter!

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What about ME?! This is FUCKING BORING.

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Trump: waaaaaaaah

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I wonder how low the Dow Jones goes before they just turn it off?

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REMercsChamp posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

I was supposed to go to Disney World mid May

Rip to that

Disney World isn't opening in May. I'm sure there will be some smaller local things opening in May but forget Disney World. Check back in June.

No shit that's why I made that post

cmiller4642 posted...

Way too soon. I would say the first day of Summer is a reasonable goal if people take it seriously

There is no way in hell we're gonna be cooped up that long.

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dave_is_slick posted...

There is no way in hell we're gonna be cooped up that long.

People thought that we weren't even going to have a quarantine in the first place. At this point you should be expecting the worst

Sayoria posted...

Vote this man out! I was promised Easter!

Easter is easily the worst major holiday by far.

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meh.

These shutdowns are not being enforced. People are still doing whatever the fuck they want as if this were a vacation

malenz posted...

Easter is easily the worst major holiday by far.

I couldn't agree more. It sucks so much and I have zero fond memories of it. Fucking painting eggs?

*shudders*

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Wtf is wrong with ce in general? Seriously

Forest_Temple posted...

I couldn't agree more. It sucks so much and I have zero fond memories of it. Fucking painting eggs?

*shudders*

Easter baskets, man.

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cmiller4642 posted...

They aren't

The numbers will explode soon to where it's a full blown freakout

actually, we're reporting declines in the rate of new infections per day.
still too early and you're right things may in fact spike upwards but for the time being, it doesn't look so bad in canada right now.

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dave_is_slick posted...

There is no way in hell we're gonna be cooped up that long.

It's either that or get COVID-19

cmiller4642 posted...

It's either that or get COVID-19

Honestly, I rather covid-19 if it means living like this for too long. I spent an hour on a long line outside of my local supermarket in the cold rain because only 5 people were allowed inside at a time. Then when I got in, there was barely anything left. I expect a huge decline in mental health especially for those not working.

Lyrica posted...

Honestly, I rather covid-19 if it means living like this for too long. I spent an hour on a long line outside of my local supermarket in the cold rain because only 5 people were allowed inside at a time. Then when I got in, there was barely anything left. I expect a huge decline in mental health especially for those not working.

It can't be allowed because the hospitalization and mortality rate is so high that it overwhelms the health care system and of course that will have a huge affect on those without coronavirus as well who need treatment. You'll have dead bodies piling in the streets and things will get even worse, much worse.

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DarthAragorn posted...

I was supposed to go to Disney World mid May

Rip to that

Great thing to worry about right now :P

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REMercsChamp posted...

It can't be allowed because the hospitalization and mortality rate is so high that it overwhelms the health care system and of course that will have a huge affect on those without coronavirus as well who need treatment. You'll have dead bodies piling in the streets and things will get even worse, much worse.

Which is understandable. I'm just saying living like this isn't easy. I actually work in healthcare, so I still go to work every day while most people are home. The least supermarkets can do is let us healthcare workers cut the line. It's not right to work all day and then have to wait on a long line like that. Especially when my work days are so much harder now.

Lyrica posted...

Which is understandable. I'm just saying living like this isn't easy. I actually work in healthcare, so I still go to work every day while most people are home. The least supermarkets can do is let us healthcare workers cut the line. It's not right to work all day and then have to wait on a long line like that. Especially when my work days are so much harder now.

Yeah that's brutal. I guess we all just have to tough it out for the greater good. Working from home every day under these conditions is fucking depressing too tbh I'd rather just go into work.

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REMercsChamp posted...

So - a lot of new information has come in since then.

The quarantine rules that were said to be enforced and mandatory 2 weeks ago, really, people did not get on board until late this week.

We also repatriated a shit load of infected people the last 2 weeks.

So now we're back to where we should have been 2 weeks ago, today. So it'll be another two weeks before things start getting better. Canada hasn't been hit as hard as the States and I believe will end up being a model of recovery like South Korea.

Will it though?
As late as last week people in Vancouver were still sunbathing on the beach, and they literally had to pass a law to fine people aren't taking this seriously.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-council-covid-fines-1.5506828

And you just had a major supermarket in the Toronto area that was closed because an employee was confirmed to have the virus, and when they opened up, it was closed right away when a second employee was confirmed to be infected.

Once multiple grocery stores are closed due to employees being infected, between the closure, the disposed perishable food, etc, you can bet any Canadian "manners" will go out the window.

2 weeks is pretty optimistic. If the police strictly enforce isolation rules across the country, then maybe (out of pure physics), but you know they will be reluctant with all the Charter Rights arguments that will result. Draconian isolation rules don't do well in countries used to freedom.

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REMercsChamp posted...

It can't be allowed because the hospitalization and mortality rate is so high that it overwhelms the health care system and of course that will have a huge affect on those without coronavirus as well who need treatment. You'll have dead bodies piling in the streets and things will get even worse, much worse.

Dead bodies piling in the streets? It's literally not that deadly. Theres a reason people arent afraid to go outside. It's not the bubonic plague. Gtfo with that bullshit fear mongering.

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cmiller4642 posted...

It's either that or get COVID-19

At that point, I'll take the virus. We've already had our first suicide due to the isolation and yet nobody at all is even considering what an indefinite quarantine will do to people's mental health.

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dave_is_slick posted...

At that point, I'll take the virus. We've already had our first suicide due to the isolation and yet nobody at all is even considering what an indefinite quarantine will do to people's mental health.

This.

I'm pretty sure there's been more than one suicide in regards to this

A lot more than one

is it wrong to hope it gets extended through may? i've got jury duty in may and i really dont want to go...

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monkmith posted...

i've got jury duty in may and i really dont want to go...

you'll probably still have to go depending on if the judge thinks it's an important trial to have

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cmiller4642 posted...

Try June 30th lol

Maybe

try never

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dave_is_slick posted...

At that point, I'll take the virus. We've already had our first suicide due to the isolation and yet nobody at all is even considering what an indefinite quarantine will do to people's mental health.

This so much. The human mind isnt built for this which is why I'm so scared. I get so discouraged when people say we will be locked up for like a year. We already live in an era with many people being depressed, this isnt gonna help at all.

Mental health is overlooked and not taken seriously.

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Forest_Temple posted...

this isnt gonna help at all.

it doesn't. my one source of enjoyment is gone. i can't fulfill my dogs life while the ban is going.
it's highly dependent on oregon/washington cases.
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The threat won't be over April 30.

Nothing Trump has or ever will say has the least importance.

The virus hasn't peaked yet, and the number of cases (and the deaths that come with those) is still growing exponentially. The rate of growth at least seems to be going down, but it does that now and then only to pick back up with a vengeance. Until it stays steady in the negative the threat isn't over. And that depends on how well people follow the guidelines against its spread.

The threat could be over after a month, sure. The problem is that when you're exposed you don't know it until after a few days, and in the meantime you're spreading it yourself, unknowingly to more people who are also unaware. That's what's going on right now. There's a lot of people out there who have the virus, are spreading the virus, and they don't even know. This is why we can't get cocky with this thing. Corona virus demands your respect.

dave_is_slick posted...

At that point, I'll take the virus. We've already had our first suicide due to the isolation and yet nobody at all is even considering what an indefinite quarantine will do to people's mental health.

This. I'm already drinking myself into a coma.

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Forest_Temple posted...

This so much. The human mind isnt built for this which is why I'm so scared. I get so discouraged when people say we will be locked up for like a year. We already live in an era with many people being depressed, this isnt gonna help at all.

Mental health is overlooked and not taken seriously.

My mind is nothing like this.

Weird.

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TheLastHero posted...

I'm pretty sure there's been more than one suicide in regards to this

A lot more than one

In Las Vegas, local news yesterday started with the story of a man murdering his two sons, then killing himself. So yeah, murders as well as suicides. I keep seeing stories that domestic violence will increase with the quarantines, and there was an example in my area.

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is this an actual shutdown tho?

I thought it was just guidelines and every state kinda handles it how they want.


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closetjpopfan posted...

The rate of growth at least seems to be going down

3rd derivative is called jerk. The jerk of corona is negative.

Bad jokes aside, human beings have been through much worse. Anne Frank hid in an attic with her whole family for two years. We don't have it nearly so bad.

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Lyrica posted...

Honestly, I rather covid-19 if it means living like this for too long. I spent an hour on a long line outside of my local supermarket in the cold rain because only 5 people were allowed inside at a time. Then when I got in, there was barely anything left. I expect a huge decline in mental health especially for those not working.

"I'm bored, I'd rather have other people get the rona and die"

ChocoboMogALT posted...

3rd derivative is called jerk. The jerk of corona is negative.

Bad jokes aside, human beings have been through much worse. Anne Frank hid in an attic with her whole family for two years. We don't have it nearly so bad.

lol. maybe that's why Trump seems to be taking this whole thing as some sort of personal contest with the virus

Turbam posted...

Isn't that after Easter?

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Forest_Temple posted...

Dead bodies piling in the streets? It's literally not that deadly. Theres a reason people arent afraid to go outside. It's not the bubonic plague. Gtfo with that bullshit fear mongering.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-on-coronavirus-161803530.html

There really is no middle ground, and its very tough to say to people: Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because theres maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts, Gates said. Its very hard to tell people when theres an epidemic spreading that they should go about things, knowing that their activity is spreading this disease.

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Rob Cesternino posted...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-on-coronavirus-161803530.html

There really is no middle ground, and its very tough to say to people: Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because theres maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts, Gates said. Its very hard to tell people when theres an epidemic spreading that they should go about things, knowing that their activity is spreading this disease.

Rob Cesternino posted...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-on-coronavirus-161803530.html

There really is no middle ground, and its very tough to say to people: Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because theres maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts, Gates said. Its very hard to tell people when theres an epidemic spreading that they should go about things, knowing that their activity is spreading this disease.

There's no reasoning with some people on here. They come looking for arguments and anything you say is trolling or being an extremist.

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Rob Cesternino posted...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-on-coronavirus-161803530.html

There really is no middle ground, and its very tough to say to people: Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because theres maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts, Gates said. Its very hard to tell people when theres an epidemic spreading that they should go about things, knowing that their activity is spreading this disease.

You're an idiot

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Rob Cesternino posted...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-on-coronavirus-161803530.html

There really is no middle ground, and its very tough to say to people: Hey, keep going to restaurants, go buy new houses, ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner. We want you to keep spending because theres maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is all that counts, Gates said. Its very hard to tell people when theres an epidemic spreading that they should go about things, knowing that their activity is spreading this disease.

Seems obvious that that's a figure of speech. He isn't literally alluding to a pile of bodies on the streets, he's referencing the rising number of people that are dying from it

TheLastHero posted...

Seems obvious that that's a figure of speech. He isn't literally alluding to a pile of bodies on the streets, he's referencing the rising number of people that are dying from it

There are bodies piling up in Italy. That's the reason they're taking all of these measures for covid-19. If you overwhelm the health care system you'll see mass deaths that society isn't prepared for.

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