Current Events > Strong Biden enthusiasm among supporters lowest for a Dem. candidate in 20 years

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Anteaterking
03/29/20 12:18:40 PM
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Krojen posted...
He had 5th place finishes til the DNC gave him billions in earned media and endorsements. Cant be shocked his support is soft when it was manufactured.

The DNC is not equivalent to "Democrats".

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bover_87
03/29/20 12:19:25 PM
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Yeah I don't think people realize how conservative the black community is in general outside of race issues.
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645AR
03/29/20 12:20:31 PM
#53:


Anteaterking posted...


The DNC is not equivalent to "Democrats".


let's be honest when the DNC pays the media to feed boomercrats their information, they pretty much are
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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:21:16 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:21:49 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Doesn't matter. Biden will win in November.

Being enthused about a candidate is not the same thing as supporting him/her or voting for him/her.

Trump has almost no shot at re-election after how poorly he's handled this pandemic.

Tbh, Trump has a legitimate cult behind him

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645AR
03/29/20 12:22:37 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...



left-wing media?

like who?
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Resaix
03/29/20 12:22:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Agreed. All the concern trolling from the "left" is getting really old.
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645AR
03/29/20 12:23:03 PM
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also he literally used the phrase concern trolling lmfao
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Smashingpmkns
03/29/20 12:26:23 PM
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"Left-wing media" lmao okay
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645AR
03/29/20 12:27:03 PM
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i want to know who gave him a checkmark

dude is literally a CEman
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:27:05 PM
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Not that I want Trump to win and I do plan on voting for Biden because he's still far better than Trump...

But if Trump DOES win (which is looking like a strong possibility) I hope the DNC learns their lesson from this. Corporate-friendly, status quo Democrats will not get people to vote.

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NinjaBreakfast
03/29/20 12:27:27 PM
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they're just positioning so they can blame the nebulous concept of 'the left' for when he loses

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Antifar
03/29/20 12:28:50 PM
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I would not rely on Trump's handling of Coronavirus to hand Democrats the election, given that polls suggest that a majority approve of his handling.
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Anteaterking
03/29/20 12:28:54 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I hope the DNC learns their lesson from this.

What should the DNC have done differently?

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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:30:25 PM
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Dudes who've been doing nothing but concern trolling to support Trump: "Who's been concern trolling to support Trump?????"
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645AR
03/29/20 12:32:06 PM
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Anteaterking posted...


What should the DNC have done differently?


stop being neoliberals
stop pandering to conservative democrats who would vote blue no matter what anyway
stop accepting money from lobbyists to benefit corporations and other garbage that corrupts the system and hurts the people
stop voting down progressive politics
stop paying the media to promote their country club and to slander progressive politicians like sanders and AOC
stop being a fucking mob

Broseph_Stalin posted...
Dudes who've been doing nothing but concern trolling to support Trump: "Who's been concern trolling to support Trump?????"


who are you talking to
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FursonaNonGrata
03/29/20 12:32:19 PM
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645AR posted...
i want to know who gave him a checkmark

dude is literally a CEman

Broseph probably works for Vox lol

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:34:13 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I still don't understand older black voters opposition to Sanders. The guy literally got arrested for marching in the Civil Rights movement. Meanwhile Biden has had a history that he's bragged about of compromising with segregationists along with opposing busing during desegregation.

As a black person myself, a lot of older black folks that I know of are still loyal to the Democratic Party, which Bernie has openly criticized.

They also associate Biden with the Obama Administration, and there's not a single politician that older black folks love more than Barack Obama.

Another issue is "electability". A lot of older black voters don't believe Sanders stands a chance against Trump because the older white population traditionally doesn't vote for progressives. It kinda creates this self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Hexenherz
03/29/20 12:34:16 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Not that I want Trump to win and I do plan on voting for Biden because he's still far better than Trump...

But if Trump DOES win (which is looking like a strong possibility) I hope the DNC learns their lesson from this. Corporate-friendly, status quo Democrats will not get people to vote.
That's what people were saying after Clinton lost. Look where we are now.

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Smashingpmkns
03/29/20 12:35:00 PM
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Blaming made up media outlets and handwaving rape allegations is a very Trumpian strategy. Hope it works for y'all.
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645AR
03/29/20 12:35:18 PM
#72:


Hexenherz posted...

That's what people were saying after Clinton lost. Look where we are now.


Well Trump secretly benefits the upper half of the DNC, so let's see when we don't have a former neoliberal running for president.
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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:35:43 PM
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Also don't let these Bernie cultist get away with historical negationism. The "establishment" was declaring Biden's campaign dead for over a month:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1233946811787669505

Biden won because he had a broader coalition of voters and actually got new people to turn out to vote. Don't let any of these disingenuous fucks talk about Biden's enthusiasm problem when they support Bernie of all people.
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645AR
03/29/20 12:36:31 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Also don't let these Bernie cultist get away with historical negationism. The "establishment" was declaring Biden's campaign dead for over a month:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1233946811787669505

Biden won because he had a broader coalition of voters and actually got new people to turn out to vote. Don't let any of these disingenuous fucks talk about Biden's enthusiasm problem when they support Bernie of all people.


yeah i'm with the other guy you write for Vox don't you
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DezDroppedFreak
03/29/20 12:36:49 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Trump has almost no shot at re-election after how poorly he's handled this pandemic.
See yall keep saying this shit but his approval ratings have gone up during all this

I feel like a lot of you backing Biden (*cough cough* broseph) are going to be in for one hell of a culture shock come November

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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:37:03 PM
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Whos alt is this?
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K181
03/29/20 12:37:30 PM
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Man, Sanders must be a really bad candidate to lose to two straight low-enthusiasm opponents.

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645AR
03/29/20 12:37:49 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Whos alt is this?


the guy i have tagged as paranoid is asking about alts again

lol
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Resaix
03/29/20 12:38:19 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
See yall keep saying this shit but his approval ratings have gone up during all this
Purely because of Rally around the flag mentality. If he was actually liked by the populace, he'd be far over 60 right now. Bush Jr hit 90 overall at times shortly after 9/11

This isn't Trump's 9/11, this is his Katrina
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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:39:30 PM
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I swear Trump has a 100% approval rating among novice users. At least there's a block feature for them now.
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DezDroppedFreak
03/29/20 12:39:57 PM
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Resaix posted...
Purely because of Rally around the flag mentality. If he was actually liked by the populace, he'd be far over 60 right now. Bush Jr hit 90 overall at times shortly after 9/11

This isn't Trump's 9/11, this is his Katrina

Again, yall are going to be in for one hell of a shock come November

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josifrees
03/29/20 12:40:11 PM
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Cant wait for Biden to enthusiastically tell us hes gonna find osama

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645AR
03/29/20 12:40:25 PM
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oh no he blocked me :(
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:40:38 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...


Biden won because he had a broader coalition of voters and actually got new people to turn out to vote. Don't let any of these disingenuous fucks talk about Biden's enthusiasm problem when they support Bernie of all people.

Lol. Biden probably draws in even less enthusiasm than Hillary.

The people voting for him are mostly voting for him because a) He's not Trump and b) He's considered the "safe" candidate.

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645AR
03/29/20 12:41:47 PM
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quick he's going to say you're concern trolling and a trump supporter better delete that quick!!!
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FursonaNonGrata
03/29/20 12:41:51 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Lol. Biden probably draws in even less enthusiasm than Hillary.

The people voting for him are mostly voting for him because a) He's not Trump and b) He's considered the "safe" candidate.

Be careful, now hes gonna insult your intelligence

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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:42:07 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The people voting for him are mostly voting for him because a) He's not Trump and b) He's considered the "safe" candidate.

Meaning, he has more support than Sanders.

If you're "worried" about turnout but continue to support Sanders of all people, you're just concern trolling and don't really care about Trump winning at all.
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NinjaBreakfast
03/29/20 12:43:51 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Lol. Biden probably draws in even less enthusiasm than Hillary.
hmmm i wouldn't say that's necessarily true. draws less active antipathy overall but probably less concentrated enthusiasm from certain voter sub-groups

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ElatedVenusaur
03/29/20 12:48:58 PM
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K181 posted...
Man, Sanders must be a really bad candidate to lose to two straight low-enthusiasm opponents.
I mean, we could analyze his faults, but the most relevant thing that happened was that James Clyburn endorsed Biden, which increased his margin of victory in South Carolina by as much as 25% and instigated the Democratic establishment to form an anti-Bernie bloc around Biden which successfully put him over the top on Super Tuesday.

Also, whereas Republican primary voters generally vote for what they want regardless of how extreme what they want is(or even how much establishment Republicans or even Trump tell them they shouldn't), Democratic primary voters(especially older ones) tend to vote for the candidate they think others will vote for, often even if they would prefer another candidate, and they obviously trust the judgment of the media and the Democratic establishment.
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:49:40 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Meaning, he has more support than Sanders.

If you're "worried" about turnout but continue to support Sanders of all people, you're just concern trolling and don't really care about Trump winning at all.

Sanders draws in more younger voters (especially latino voters) and the people that are gonna vote for Biden would vote blue no matter what.

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FursonaNonGrata
03/29/20 12:50:50 PM
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I guarantee that if Bernie somehow ended up with the nomination then Broseph would vote for Trump

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AtelierRyza462X
03/29/20 12:51:51 PM
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Looks like annuda win for Trump!
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/29/20 12:51:51 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Also, whereas Republican primary voters generally vote for what they want regardless of how extreme what they want is(or even how much establishment Republicans or even Trump tell them they shouldn't), Democratic primary voters(especially older ones) tend to vote for the candidate they think others will vote for, often even if they would prefer another candidate, and they obviously trust the judgment of the media and the Democratic establishment.

This part right here.

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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:53:00 PM
#94:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Sanders draws in more younger voters

So people who don't vote, at the cost of people who do vote. Stop avoiding the problem.

FursonaNonGrata posted...
if Bernie somehow ended up with the nomination

LOL

And again, I'm not the one who's been concern trolling to mask support for Trump, that's Bernie's supporters.
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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:53:55 PM
#95:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
and they obviously trust the judgment of the media and the Democratic establishment.

Broseph_Stalin posted...


https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1233946811787669505

get the fuck over yourself.
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DezDroppedFreak
03/29/20 12:54:29 PM
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Biden is a garbage candidate that is going to lose in the general. Yall are creating another 2016

LOL SHUT UP TROLL

alright man have fun

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Broseph_Stalin
03/29/20 12:56:45 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Biden is a garbage candidate that is going to lose in the general. Yall are creating another 2016

Funny how you have to continuously ignore who is saying this, isn't it
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josifrees
03/29/20 12:58:09 PM
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Anyone not acknowledging that American politics are rigged in certain ways is being naive or disingenuous


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DezDroppedFreak
03/29/20 12:59:04 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Funny how you have to continuously ignore who is saying this, isn't it
I dont ignore myself

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645AR
03/29/20 1:00:04 PM
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this is an excellent melty even if i cant see it
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