Current Events > Star Wars as a 9 movie story is so awful. I can't believe people like the series

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Milkman5 03/28/20 2:00:25 AM #1:	the last 3 are so horrible with a terrible payoff and undo the previous 6 films. how can anyone watch all 9 movies back to back and claim that the overall story is coherent at all. The Rey arc is a fucking mess. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:936358805] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>the last 3 are so horrible with a terrible payoff and undo the previous 6 films. how can anyone watch all 9 movies back to back and claim that the overall story is coherent at all. The Rey arc is a fucking mess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 03/28/20 2:00:52 AM #2:	They fly now?! --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:936358817] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>They fly now?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 03/28/20 2:03:20 AM #3:	Yeah, the ST feels tacked on and a mess. 1-6 is the saga, even though 1 and 2 are worst than the ST. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:936358884] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the ST feels tacked on and a mess. 1-6 is the saga, even though 1 and 2 are worst than the ST. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 03/28/20 2:09:12 AM #4:	say what you want about episodes 1 and 2, but at the very least they build up and connect with the third movie and all the pieces laid out by those two movies fall into place and convincingly explain how Palpatine was able to take over the universe. <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:936359026] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>say what you want about episodes 1 and 2, but at the very least they build up and connect with the third movie and all the pieces laid out by those two movies fall into place and convincingly explain how Palpatine was able to take over the universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/28/20 2:11:37 AM #5:	Milkman5 posted... the last 3 (...) undo the previous 6 films. No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:936359078] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>the last 3 (...) undo the previous 6 films.</quote>No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 03/28/20 2:13:03 AM #6:	DevsBro posted... Milkman5 posted... the last 3 (...) undo the previous 6 films. No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect. They definitely do considering they ignore the first 3 and actively negate the middle 3 <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:936359119] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote> the last 3 (...) undo the previous 6 films.</quote>No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect. </quote> They definitely do considering they ignore the first 3 and actively negate the middle 3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 03/28/20 2:13:34 AM #7:	Star Wars (1977) and The Empire Strikes Back (1980) are the only decent films. Rest are trash. --- I NEED a hot Ghetto Asian Girlfriend in my life, fam. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:936359129] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Star Wars (1977) and The Empire Strikes Back (1980) are the only decent films. Rest are trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/28/20 2:13:43 AM #8:	DarthAragorn posted... They definitely do considering they ignore the first 3 and actively negate the middle 3 Oh dang a "yeah huh" argument, you got me there. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:936359136] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite> <quote>They definitely do considering they ignore the first 3 and actively negate the middle 3</quote>Oh dang a "yeah huh" argument, you got me there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 03/28/20 2:18:37 AM #9:	DevsBro posted... No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect. They literally do an in-universe reset so they can rehash the original trilogy plot line. They reset it so that the Empire never lost, the Empire still controls the universe, Palpatine was reset as well. They make so that the previous 6 movies are completely inconseqential and have nothing to do with the last 3 movies besides cameos. Then they undid all the lore previously established by making Rey into an omnipotent god with almost no explanation other than ~~being related to Palpatine even though Palpatine was trained by a Sith lord for years. He wasn't naturally the way he was and even he had limitations in the first 6 movies~~ <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:936359252] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>No they don't but since the prequels are about as bad as the OT is good, this would be kind of a neutral effect.</quote> They literally do an in-universe reset so they can rehash the original trilogy plot line. They reset it so that the Empire never lost, the Empire still controls the universe, Palpatine was reset as well. They make so that the previous 6 movies are completely inconseqential and have nothing to do with the last 3 movies besides cameos. Then they undid all the lore previously established by making Rey into an omnipotent god with almost no explanation other than being related to Palpatine even though Palpatine was trained by a Sith lord for years. He wasn't naturally the way he was and even he had limitations in the first 6 movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Milkman5 03/28/20 2:20:23 AM #10:	it's like a really shitty fan fiction where they re-wrote the original trilogy with self-insert characters then power-crept them and made them into omnipotent gods. It's like a remake that is part of the story it's remaking, does anyone realize how fucking weird that is? <cite>Milkman5 posted [p:936359286] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>it's like a really shitty fan fiction where they re-wrote the original trilogy with self-insert characters then power-crept them and made them into omnipotent gods. It's like a remake that is part of the story it's remaking, does anyone realize how fucking weird that is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
An_Actual_Chad 03/28/20 2:23:31 AM #11:	Everything after the OT and Thrawn Trilogy was a mistake. --- Being a Chad is a choice. <cite>An_Actual_Chad posted [p:936359363] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Everything after the OT and Thrawn Trilogy was a mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/28/20 2:38:09 AM #12:	Milkman5 posted... They reset it so that the Empire never lost Nah they just had the remaining troops grab the left over equipment and start raising hell again. It's not a retcon. Though I can see where you're coming from in terms of devaluing the ending of the OT. Milkman5 posted... the Empire still controls the universe That was more something that happens between 7 and 8. In 7, the FO felt like sort of a blip on the radar that ended up having more bite than anyone expected. Then in 8 they were suddenly rulers of the galaxy with no explanation. I dunno, maybe they went around bluffing that they could blow up the system if they didn't submit or something. Kinda dumb but then again so was just about everything in 8. Milkman5 posted... Palpatine was reset as well He was resurrected. Happens all the time in fiction. It was dumb, but it was also an episode 9 thing instead of a trilogy thing. Milkman5 posted... They make so that the previous 6 movies are completely inconseqential and have nothing to do with the last 3 movies besides cameos. The OT didn't have any loose ends to tie up. Of course it was going to be related in continuity only. I don't get why this is a problem. Milkman5 posted... Then they undid all the lore previously established by making Rey into an omnipotent god with almost no explanation other than ~~being related to Palpatine even though Palpatine was trained by a Sith lord for years. He wasn't naturally the way he was and even he had limitations in the first 6 movies~~ Ep 9 dropped the ball in so many ways. Before then, we could chalk it up to the episode 7 subtitle, and I really kinda liked that. But anyway, I don't see why this is a break of lore. If anything, it just implies ~~he was naturally predisposed in addition to being trained~~. Big deal. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:936359690] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>They reset it so that the Empire never lost</quote>Nah they just had the remaining troops grab the left over equipment and start raising hell again. It's not a retcon. Though I can see where you're coming from in terms of devaluing the ending of the OT. Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>the Empire still controls the universe</quote>That was more something that happens between 7 and 8. In 7, the FO felt like sort of a blip on the radar that ended up having more bite than anyone expected. Then in 8 they were suddenly rulers of the galaxy with no explanation. I dunno, maybe they went around bluffing that they could blow up the system if they didn't submit or something. Kinda dumb but then again so was just about everything in 8. Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>Palpatine was reset as well</quote>He was resurrected. Happens all the time in fiction. It was dumb, but it was also an episode 9 thing instead of a trilogy thing. Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>They make so that the previous 6 movies are completely inconseqential and have nothing to do with the last 3 movies besides cameos.</quote>The OT didn't have any loose ends to tie up. Of course it was going to be related in continuity only. I don't get why this is a problem. Milkman5 posted... </cite> <quote>Then they undid all the lore previously established by making Rey into an omnipotent god with almost no explanation other than being related to Palpatine even though Palpatine was trained by a Sith lord for years. He wasn't naturally the way he was and even he had limitations in the first 6 movies</quote>Ep 9 dropped the ball in so many ways. Before then, we could chalk it up to the episode 7 subtitle, and I really kinda liked that. But anyway, I don't see why this is a break of lore. If anything, it just implies he was naturally predisposed in addition to being trained. Big deal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 03/28/20 2:41:22 AM #13:	SSJGrimReaper posted... They fly now?! I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:936359771] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>SSJGrimReaper posted... </cite> <quote>They fly now?!</quote>I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/28/20 2:44:50 AM #14:	Verdekal posted... I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies. Because it was cute and fun and therefore does not belong in my precious grimdark srsbusnss sandpaperpants film industry. Things like fun belong in the past with other cheesy things like color and emotive acting. Also because it contradicted some stupid book or anime or something where there was a storm trooper with a jetpack or something. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:936359844] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted... </cite> <quote>I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies.</quote>Because it was cute and fun and therefore does not belong in my precious grimdark srsbusnss sandpaperpants film industry. Things like fun belong in the past with other cheesy things like color and emotive acting. Also because it contradicted some stupid book or anime or something where there was a storm trooper with a jetpack or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 03/28/20 2:47:53 AM #15:	DevsBro posted... Nah they just had the remaining troops grab the left over equipment and start raising hell again. It's not a retcon. Though I can see where you're coming from in terms of devaluing the ending of the OT. That was more something that happens between 7 and 8. In 7, the FO felt like sort of a blip on the radar that ended up having more bite than anyone expected. Then in 8 they were suddenly rulers of the galaxy with no explanation. I dunno, maybe they went around bluffing that they could blow up the system if they didn't submit or something. Kinda dumb but then again so was just about everything in 8. He was resurrected. Happens all the time in fiction. It was dumb, but it was also an episode 9 thing instead of a trilogy thing. The OT didn't have any loose ends to tie up. Of course it was going to be related in continuity only. I don't get why this is a problem. Ep 9 dropped the ball in so many ways. Before then, we could chalk it up to the episode 7 subtitle, and I really kinda liked that. But anyway, I don't see why this is a break of lore. If anything, it just implies ~~he was naturally predisposed in addition to being trained~~. Big deal. I can't tell if you're trying to defend the movies or have some weird issue with this one particular idea. I agree with you that just about everything that happened in 7, 8, and 9 were dumb, though. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:936359912] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Nah they just had the remaining troops grab the left over equipment and start raising hell again. It's not a retcon. Though I can see where you're coming from in terms of devaluing the ending of the OT. That was more something that happens between 7 and 8. In 7, the FO felt like sort of a blip on the radar that ended up having more bite than anyone expected. Then in 8 they were suddenly rulers of the galaxy with no explanation. I dunno, maybe they went around bluffing that they could blow up the system if they didn't submit or something. Kinda dumb but then again so was just about everything in 8. He was resurrected. Happens all the time in fiction. It was dumb, but it was also an episode 9 thing instead of a trilogy thing. The OT didn't have any loose ends to tie up. Of course it was going to be related in continuity only. I don't get why this is a problem. Ep 9 dropped the ball in so many ways. Before then, we could chalk it up to the episode 7 subtitle, and I really kinda liked that. But anyway, I don't see why this is a break of lore. If anything, it just implies he was naturally predisposed in addition to being trained. Big deal.</quote>I can't tell if you're trying to defend the movies or have some weird issue with this one particular idea. I agree with you that just about everything that happened in 7, 8, and 9 were dumb, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/28/20 2:50:06 AM #16:	Jabodie posted... I can't tell if you're trying to defend the movies or have some weird issue with this one particular idea. I agree with you that just about everything that happened in 7, 8, and 9 were dumb, though. Nah 7 was good. Retreaded some ground but had competent storytelling and a particularly well-developed villain. It was just 8 and 9 that were mostly stupid. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:936359965] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Jabodie posted... </cite> <quote>I can't tell if you're trying to defend the movies or have some weird issue with this one particular idea. I agree with you that just about everything that happened in 7, 8, and 9 were dumb, though.</quote>Nah 7 was good. Retreaded some ground but had competent storytelling and a particularly well-developed villain. It was just 8 and 9 that were mostly stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 03/28/20 2:59:28 AM #17:	DevsBro posted... Nah 7 was good. Retreaded some ground but had competent storytelling and a particularly well-developed villain. It was just 8 and 9 that were mostly stupid. 7 was okay. But 8 had some serious explaining to do to justify how the First Order could make such a technological marvel in secret. Instead, the FO suddenly controls the whole galaxy because... because the Empire controlled the whole galaxy. Episode 9 says they got so powerful because Palpatine. gr8. Personally, the Sun Crusher is a serious case a power creep, and it outright destroyed any chance the future directors/writers had of exploring what sort of government was established by the leaders of the Rebellion. That was a bad choice from the very outset imo. If I had to put it in the original 6, it would probably be middle of the pack. Not great, but not egregiously bad. In a lot of ways I actually think 8 is a better movie, but it basically destroyed any chance of the trilogy having a cohesive story line. And everything about Canto Bight is complete fucking garbage. And Rose crashing into Finn was dumb af. And them trusting a random guy they met in jail was dumb af. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:936360185] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Nah 7 was good. Retreaded some ground but had competent storytelling and a particularly well-developed villain. It was just 8 and 9 that were mostly stupid.</quote>7 was okay. But 8 had some serious explaining to do to justify how the First Order could make such a technological marvel in secret. Instead, the FO suddenly controls the whole galaxy because... because the Empire controlled the whole galaxy. Episode 9 says they got so powerful because Palpatine. gr8. Personally, the Sun Crusher is a serious case a power creep, and it outright destroyed any chance the future directors/writers had of exploring what sort of government was established by the leaders of the Rebellion. That was a bad choice from the very outset imo. If I had to put it in the original 6, it would probably be middle of the pack. Not great, but not egregiously bad. In a lot of ways I actually think 8 is a better movie, but it basically destroyed any chance of the trilogy having a cohesive story line. And everything about Canto Bight is complete fucking garbage. And Rose crashing into Finn was dumb af. And them trusting a random guy they met in jail was dumb af. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 03/28/20 11:07:15 AM #18:	Verdekal posted... I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies. doesn't bother me at all tbh star wars has always had cheesy dialogue --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://error1355.com/ce/SSJGrimReaper.html <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:936369807] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted... </cite> <quote>I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies.</quote>doesn't bother me at all tbh star wars has always had cheesy dialogue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 03/28/20 11:14:34 AM #20:	We must subvert our expectations. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:936370059] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>We must subvert our expectations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 03/28/20 11:17:23 AM #21:	SSJGrimReaper posted... doesn't bother me at all tbh star wars has always had cheesy dialogue --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:936370136] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>SSJGrimReaper posted... </cite> <quote>doesn't bother me at all tbh star wars has always had cheesy dialogue</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/28/20 11:20:38 AM #22:	Milkman take your meds --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:936370268] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Milkman take your meds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chairforceone 03/28/20 11:20:46 AM #23:	The fact that the FO blew up more planets in two minutes than the empire did at its peak of power was a big enough red flag for me to disregard the ST as nothing more than fan fiction with a budget. <cite>chairforceone posted [p:936370272] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>The fact that the FO blew up more planets in two minutes than the empire did at its peak of power was a big enough red flag for me to disregard the ST as nothing more than fan fiction with a budget. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Top Crusader 03/28/20 11:22:57 AM #24:	The OT is pretty decent. Although true the PT at least built up to the OT, they are just as bad or worse than the ST. Not sure why they are suddenly getting elevated so much just because most of the ST was bad. All the PT was bad, while FA was a retread it was at least still fairly coherent and a fun movie. --- https://imgur.com/09qFfLV <cite>The Top Crusader posted [p:936370352] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>The OT is pretty decent. Although true the PT at least built up to the OT, they are just as bad or worse than the ST. Not sure why they are suddenly getting elevated so much just because most of the ST was bad. All the PT was bad, while FA was a retread it was at least still fairly coherent and a fun movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 03/28/20 11:31:50 AM #25:	the disney trilogy was crap. their goals seemed to be... shit on all the old fans absolutely destroy all characters from previous movies create the most generic mary sue they could generate an obscene number of plot holes and generally just make no fucking sense --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:936370696] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>the disney trilogy was crap. their goals seemed to be... shit on all the old fansabsolutely destroy all characters from previous moviescreate the most generic mary sue they couldgenerate an obscene number of plot holesand generally just make no fucking sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/28/20 12:11:08 PM #26:	Verdekal posted... I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies. But its actually funny this time, and that's bad. --- don't flush the cob <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:936372083] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>Verdekal posted... </cite> <quote>I'm surprised this line bothers some of you guys. Lines like that are common in 80s action comedy movies.</quote>But its actually funny this time, and that's bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 03/28/20 12:16:16 PM #27:	The Top Crusader posted... The OT is pretty decent. Although true the PT at least built up to the OT, they are just as bad or worse than the ST. Not sure why they are suddenly getting elevated so much just because most of the ST was bad. All the PT was bad, while FA was a retread it was at least still fairly coherent and a fun movie. I think it's because there's a lot of good/fun PT related EU stuff. In a lot of ways they elevate and contextualize the events of the movies. And while that doesn't make the movies themselves better, it certainly colors my perception rewatching them. You shouldn't need to know X, Y, and Z from a book, comic, and show to really enjoy the movie in the first place, but those side stories are partially written to address the flaws or holes in the story. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:936372274] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>The Top Crusader posted... </cite> <quote>The OT is pretty decent. Although true the PT at least built up to the OT, they are just as bad or worse than the ST. Not sure why they are suddenly getting elevated so much just because most of the ST was bad. All the PT was bad, while FA was a retread it was at least still fairly coherent and a fun movie.</quote>I think it's because there's a lot of good/fun PT related EU stuff. In a lot of ways they elevate and contextualize the events of the movies. And while that doesn't make the movies themselves better, it certainly colors my perception rewatching them. You shouldn't need to know X, Y, and Z from a book, comic, and show to really enjoy the movie in the first place, but those side stories are partially written to address the flaws or holes in the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster 03/28/20 12:20:35 PM #28:	3-7 are pretty fun tbh. 3 is a very Star Wars movie and starts with a blast and ends really fucked up. OT is obvious and 7 felt like we were gonna get some real cool stuff. 1 is only good because of Qui Gon and Maul and 8 because of Luke. 9 gets a bit of credit for Palpatine. 2 is a mess. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" <cite>InfinityMonster posted [p:936372438] in Star Wars ... [t:78514448]...</cite> <quote>3-7 are pretty fun tbh. 3 is a very Star Wars movie and starts with a blast and ends really fucked up. OT is obvious and 7 felt like we were gonna get some real cool stuff. 1 is only good because of Qui Gon and Maul and 8 because of Luke. 9 gets a bit of credit for Palpatine. 2 is a mess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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