Board 8 > Game of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 1

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

I picked Devil May Cry to win, except it kind of has a history of choking in debated matches so I switched.

Is this serious? You decry DMC as a choke artist, when it's going up against Donkey Kong?!?

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The last debatable match Dante won was....never?

I guess if you count 2007 Dante did beat Leon and Luigi/Pikachu happened to let him gather 2nd?

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Donkey Kong sure didn't choke when I picked against the series in 2015 and 2018.

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I knew wed curse this one. I never even hesitated to pick DK and its not just a Nintendo thing.

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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

The last debatable match Dante won was....never?

I guess if you count 2007 Dante did beat Leon and Luigi/Pikachu happened to let him gather 2nd?

He got to the semifinals in 2007!

But yeah, other than that, never.
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LeonhartFour posted...

He got to the semifinals in 2007!

But yeah, other than that, never.

I mean, even then he didn't get there on his own strength, he got there because his 'debatable match' got smashed by Pikachu.

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I mean technically Dante/Leon was debated...!
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Is this serious? You decry DMC as a choke artist, when it's going up against Donkey Kong?!?

It has been more than a decade since DK choked in a debatable match.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

It has been more than a decade since DK choked in a debatable match.

DK is the favorite today it seems, for good reason.

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Round 1 Super Mario Odyssey vs. Mortal Kombat 11

Moltars Analysis

My guess is that Smash > Odyssey and MK11 > Tekken 7. If Smash can get 83% on Tekken, then high-70s should be good for Odyssey. Sprinkle in a few extra percent since strong games are overperforming this round and...

Moltars Bracket: Super Mario Odyssey

Moltars Prediction: Super Mario Odyssey 80%

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transiences Analysis

I guess this match is as good a place as any to say that I am on board the Super Mario Odyssey train. My bracket has it over Smash Ultimate, and I'd be excited about that pick if people weren't bracket voting like hell in every match. With so many brackets and so few votes, you almost have to get a 55%ish win to overcome the brackets. I don't need to go into that for another month or so but I just want to get it out there.

Odyssey has a tougher match than Ultimate here, both because MK11 is a more popular game than Tekken 7 and because it doesn't get to exert any kind of fighting game overlap that Smash might be doing today. I went the highest on Smash today even despite thinking Odyssey might be able to beat it. MK11 sold a ton and had a really great story mode that is worth youtubing for any lapsed MK fan. Odyssey should put some screws into it but I don't think it can cross 80%.

transience's prediction: Super Mario Odyssey with 78.53%

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Leonharts Analysis

This division is bookended with the two most popular non-Zelda Switch games beating up on the most recent fighting game entries in series this site doesnt care much about. I think this will actually be a good litmus test for Odyssey to see how it compares to Smash Ultimate. If it can come near to matching its percentage, I might be willing to entertain it having a shot (before we see how the SFF plays out anyway!) because I would take Mortal Kombat over Tekken any day of the week here. Sub-Zero and Scorpion have been solid midcarders here from the beginning, while the few Tekken characters weve seen in the contests have always done poorly (although the one Tekken character we really need is King imhotbqh). I feel like people will go high here for Odyssey, but we tend to overestimate Mario and underestimate Mortal Kombat (although I dont think 11 will be worth much. Shouldve been 9!).

Leonharts Vote: Super Mario Odyssey

Leonharts Prediction: Super Mario Odyssey with 66.67%

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Kleenexs Analysis

I'm very interested to see how strong Odyssey is. It's obviously going to win this match - Mortal Kombat has no shot - but I don't have a good read on Odyssey, given the only 'real' polls its been in, it was hidden behind Breath of the Wild. Surely it's not going to be as strong as 3/World/64, but I could definitely see it being Galaxy level or better. Which isn't a world-beater or anything, but certainly enough to stomp the bottom half of this division before being eaten alive by Smash.

Kleenex's Prediction: Super Mario Odyssey with 71%

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Guests Analysis - ctes

A match like this is probably the reason we're having several matches a day because it is not at all interesting in no way. Super Mario Odyssey has its path so firmly set, but yet there are those believing it could trouble Ultimate, despite Ultimate being a bigger release than the last few Smash games and Mario games not really contesting the Smash of their console since N64. So I guess maybe this match can be used to compare it. Ultimate is actually facing a similar game in Tekken, but I'd expect Mortal Kombat to be stronger than. It always has. So I guess Odyssey would have to perform better or at least just as good as Ultimate for it to be worth mentioning? Well, I think it'll look fine, but I don't think it'll do better.

Mortal Kombat is probably just barely respected enough to not fold completely, and so I believe Odyssey will be just short of 80%, but my jaw wouldn't drop if it cracked it either.

Super Mario Odyssey - 77.61%
Mortal Kombat 11 - 22.39%

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Crew Consensus: Super Mario Odyssey wins. FATALITY


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yeah I should've upped my prediction after the last couple days' matches

oh well
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you have to be real low on Odyssey (or weirdly high on MK11) to think it couldn't break 70%

Odyssey's on a whole other level from the Galaxy 2s of the world

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EventualDecline posted...

So which game won last decade? I saw someone mention that it was Zelda, so which one was it? Wind Waker or Majoras Mask? I guess Twilight Princess is a possibility too. Id be suprised if games like Smash Melee, Kingdom Hearts, and Resident Evil 4 did not go far in that contest also. I was here at the time, but I dont remember that contest or its outcome at all.

Here's the bracket, if you want to refresh your memory.

http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?bracket=2010g

The links will take you to every game's Contest history.


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transience posted...

you have to be real low on Odyssey (or weirdly high on MK11) to think it couldn't break 70%

Odyssey's on a whole other level from the Galaxy 2s of the world

well I only had Ultimate had 73% so I put Odyssey a little lower to offset it!

Odyssey will be stronger than Galaxy 2 for sure, Galaxy 1, maybe, but I'm not willing to give it too much more credit than that...!
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Man if Odyssey gets close to 80% I'll be on the Odyssey > Smash hype train. It's very possible that every Mortal Kombat game, including that Sub-Zero platformer spinoff, beats every pure Tekken game.

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Did people actually like Odyssey? I played it for about an hour on a friend's Switch and wasn't impressed in the slightest. Think 64 remains the best 3D Mario, which is kind of sad if you think about it.

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do you actually pay attention to anyone's opinion but your own
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youve known the answer to that for a decade or more

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LeonhartFour posted...

do you actually pay attention to anyone's opinion but your own

It's an honest question, I haven't seen anyone here talk about Odyssey since it has a very straightforward path. Where does it rank in strength on the Mario 3D pantheon? Can't see it being much stronger than Galaxy, certainly no 64

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yeah Odyssey isnt 64 but Ultimate isnt Melee and Breath of the Wild isnt Ocarina

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I'd wager Ultimate's a lot closer to Melee than Odyssey is to 64
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I wouldnt - because theres no world where Melee is close to letting God of War get 45%

maybe 2004 Melee with Vice City

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transcience posted...

I wouldnt - because theres no world where Melee is close to letting God of War get 45%

maybe 2004 Melee with Vice City

I don't think Melee is all that much stronger now than it was then!

except for the rally potential anyway

but I can believe Ultimate can match Brawl which was good enough to beat Melee head-to-head

no way Odyssey will in a million years touch Mario 64
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Did people actually like Odyssey? I played it for about an hour on a friend's Switch and wasn't impressed in the slightest. Think 64 remains the best 3D Mario, which is kind of sad if you think about it.

I played it once, it was forgettable

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I'd take Ultimate over Melee for all the same reasons I took Brawl over Melee in the last GotD

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where is poll
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Brawl was unique in so many ways from other Smash games. this is more like Smash 4. that could totally beat Odyssey but I wouldnt put them in the same class.

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Eh, I think Ultimate is way above Smash 4. It's got way more hype behind it, and hype is what Smash feeds on.
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anyway Mario is cheating the polls again

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how is Ultimate different than 4 hype wise? 4 had Mega Man and Cloud and you name it. Ultimate has.. were all here?, and Ridley?


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Undertale anti-voting is for real
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Wow calm down Mario

haw haw me

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transcience posted...

how is Ultimate different than 4 hype wise? 4 had Mega Man and Cloud and you name it. Ultimate has.. were all here?, and Ridley?

For one Ultimate is on the Nintendo console we care about rather than the one we forgot about

but it stays relevant through all the DLC
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so, uh

Mario Odyssey

(4 has DLC galore too, though I agree about the Wii U aspect)

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transcience posted...

so, uh

Mario Odyssey

(4 has DLC galore too, though I agree about the Wii U aspect)

yeah but I feel like other than Cloud nobody really cared about it because, again, Wii U
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As someone who has SMO > Smash

At least I have 5 minutes to believe in miracles

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People definitely cared about Mega Man

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I might be about to get a 2/4 day.

But I don't care.

Because Odyssey is making Mortal Kombat look like 2018 Draven.

Your move, Ultimate.

The_Ctes posted...

People definitely cared about Mega Man

Mega Man was in the base game!
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I didn't expect Tropical Freeze and DMC 5 to be so close

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pull my Crew Curse trigger

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I mean, does anyone care about Banjo and Hero and Joker? theyre good adds, but not better than Bayonetta and Cloud and whatever else came in 4

anyway I dont think were actually disagreeing here.

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All three of those were much bigger deals than Bayonetta.

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there's the Crew Curse

transcience posted...

whatever else

exactly

whatever else did come in Smash 4 DLC
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Lol DKC
Lol Crew curse again

wow, I might go 2/4 and I dont even mind because damn Mario

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1/4

Go my Mario

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3/4 here.

Missed DKC but I got Octopath! (so far).

But yeah go my Mario

Janus5k posted...

pull my Crew Curse trigger

Yessss

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